6 Officers Subduing 400-Pound Man Who Attacked Them

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phil

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206, WHY DONT YOU SHARE THE "KEY" DETAILS?

THATS ONE THING YOUVE YET TO POST IS A FACT!

THESE ARE THINGS DISCUSSED ON A MUCH WIDER BASIS IN MY AREA THAN YOURS. SORRY BUT THE FACTS ARE LEFT OUT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL FOR SOME REASON.

I DONT CONDONE THE KILLING OF UNARMED PEOPLE AND THERES THREE OBVIOUS CASES THERE WHERE I FEEL THE COPS GOT OFF TOO EASY. BUT YOU START THROWING AROUND NUMBERS LIKE "15" IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT 12 OF THEM WERE JUSTIFIABLE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN CINCINNATI IS THE KKK CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

WHAT POINT IS THERE IN THAT OTHER THAN TOO INFLAME RACIAL TENSIONS? ITS SPIN PLAIN AND SIMPLE. BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO. ITS YOUR LIFE.
 
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i just think its funny how only shottings and beatings that are publisied and desputer are involving blacks.

seems to me alot of people whine when some one like fat dude deserved to die. well mabey not deserved it, but how could his fam be suprised. and why would they care? if my brother father or son was like him i wouldnt of shed one fucking tear and would have apoligised to the cops and comunity for his recless actions. and for hgim being a losser ass drug addict and racist.
 
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Phil shut the fuck up your a little richy bitch who needs to mind his manners. THE 91 siccness is the last remaining sanctuary for gangsta rap you dumb fucker (Nitro). I have an .454 for a crooked cop or a crack head. People hate the police bc they are crooked as fuck and you all know it. The cinnci police are a bunch of rednecks and I know it from personal experience.
 
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I wish this nation would stop believing the propaganda and newsreports and just grow a set of nuts and tear Merican streets out the frame and wipe all the power mongering politricklanz offa tha map.
I pray for tha Grand Day when Marx's social revolution actually occurs and the clash between the classes is won by the downtrodden governmental slaves.
I thought the killaz in Sin-C were bout sumthin, but I guess not...
I hope some off the wall ish like an unarmed black teenager be shot and killed by police or a man be beaten to death the way homeboy did last week- it would be all these folx need to kick off a mass race riot, a catalyst to serve as an exapmle to this whole nation that we will no longer endure being mistreated and trampled upon.

Fuck 'MerryK.A.H.
 
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Like I said before, Lorenzo Collins had a fucking brick, he was mentally challenged and the pigs shot him. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK IT WAS NECESSARY FOR THREE POLICE OFFICERS TO SHOOT HIM?

Do you honestly believe it was necessary for the police to shoot unarmed Timothy Thomas? (I like how everyone ignored this shit about his funeral and how the pigs "crashed" the party)

What about Michael Carpenter? A man who was shot simply because he was black and had expired tabs? (This is from your own link, dumbass).


There is a huge problem in cincinnati and it should not be ignored by ignorant ass people like you. Go ahead and continue to close your eyes and pretend everything is alright. Yeah Phil, there is no racial problem in amerikkka. It's all just part of our imagination.
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phil

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you have just proven that youre a fucking moron. youve spent 2 days trying to find something to pick my post apart but all you come back with is mentioning the SAME 3 CASES I STATED EARLIER THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE, WHERE I THOUGHT THEY GOT OFF EASY.
 

phil

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WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT WERE JUSTIFIED? WHAT ABOUT THOSE 12.

IM STILL WAITING FOR THOSE "KEY DETAILS" YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
 

HERESY

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When black people have FINALLY had enough of *WHITE AMERICA* (the mentality, the conditions) It won't be a case of "crying wolf." First black people will have to ERADICATE the STEPIN FETCHIT SEMIAN NEGROES (such as AL, FARACOON, POWELL, R.SIMMONS and NIG JACKSON.)

For the Einstein's who say the guy was doped up who said that? If I'm not mistaking didn't the coroner say he had drugs in his system? That does not mean HE was doped up. That means he had drugs in his system. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR WEED TO LEAVE YOUR SYSTEM? 14-30 DAYS? WHAT ABOUT HOP (HEROIN)? THE *DOUBT* and TAINTED picture is drawn by the MEDIA. WHAT IF THE MAN SMOKED ALL THAT DOPE 30 DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH BUT GAVE HIS LIFE TO CHRIST AND WENT TO REHAB BEFORE HE DIED? IF YOU DIDN'T DO DRUGS WITH HIM HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WAS DOPED UP?

THIS IS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE MEDIA:

"HE WAS HIGH ON DOPE"

"HE WAS HIGH ON PCP"

"HE WAS HIGH ON COKE"


I'm not saying the man is a saint. I don't know the man. What I do know is that you have a man DEAD. BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER HOW MANY OF YOU POLICE ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF POLICE *BRUTALITY* /ABUSE, HAVE AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS BEEN BEATEN BY THE POLICE OR HAVE WITNESSED POLICE BRUTALITY *FIRST HAND*?

:SITS BACK AND WAITS FOR THE LIES TO POUR IN:

:pONDERS WHO WILL BE THE FIRST PATHOGEN TO MAKE AN EXCUSE AND GIVE SOME CANDY ASS ANSWER:

Mcleanhatch once again stick to the subject matter at hand. READ THE QUESTIONS I POSED AND READ YOUR ANSWERS. THEY ARE IRRELEVANT!

"SINCE THE TAPE SHOWED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT THE COPS ACTED PROPERLY I WOULD SAY THE COPS TURNED IT OVER TO THE MEDIA."

In your OPINION the tape showed that the cops acted properly. In the eyes of others it may be a different story. Why would the cops turn the tape over to the media? Do cops turn over all the arrest/death scene material they record? Are you implying that the cops wanted to get this footage to the public so they could have a clear name????? Do cops turn over all the footage they get when they act properly? If not why turn over THIS particular piece of footage?

Mcleanhatch I *NEVER* implied that I was present NOR did I imply that I knew who handed the tape over to the media. You are right I wasn't present when the tape was submitted. JUST LIKE YOU (AND OTHERS) WEREN'T PRESENT WHEN THIS MAN (ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA) TOOK PCP AND COKE....

The coroner being WHITE has NOTHING to do with my question about believing the reports of the coroner. Maybe the coroner isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? Maybe the coroner accepts bribe money? I don't know but what I do is his skin color did NOT play a factor in asking the question.

ONCE AGAIN IRRELEVANT RAMBLE FROM MCLEANHATCH. GOOD JOB JIMMY.

ABOUT THE MAN BEING DETAINED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN ACTING FUNNY WHERE IS THIS FOOTAGE? DIDN'T YOU SAY "I DON'T THINK THE CAMERA WAS EVER TURNED OFF"? YOU SAID THAT RIGHT? WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE OF THIS GUY SHAKING, ACTING FUNNY AND EMT'S SCRAPING HIS BODY OFF THE GROUND? WHY HASN'T THIS FOOTAGE BEEN SHOWN?

WAS IT EDITED OUT BECAUSE HE RECEIVED FURTHER ABUSE FROM THE OFFICERS *AFTER HE WAS DETAINED*? THIS HAPPENS A LOT AND IS OFTEN CAUGHT ON VIDEO TAPE. THE MILDLY RETARDED KID AND RODNEY KING SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF OF THAT.

WAS THE TAPE TURNED OFF AT THE SCENE IF SO BY WHOM? WHAT WOULD PROMPT THEM TO TURN THE TAPE OFF AFTER THEY HAVE HAD IT RECORDING FOR SO LONG? IS IT PROPER PROCEDURE TO TURN THE TAPE OFF WHEN THE MED TEAM ARRIVES?

WAS THE TAPE EDITED BECAUSE THAT PORTION (IF IT WAS RECORDED) IS USELESS? IF SO WHY ARE THEY DESTROYING EVIDENCE THAT MAY SHED LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENED?

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phil said:
you have just proven that youre a fucking moron. youve spent 2 days trying to find something to pick my post apart but all you come back with is mentioning the SAME 3 CASES I STATED EARLIER THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE, WHERE I THOUGHT THEY GOT OFF EASY.
I Spent two days doing research?!?! So you have been with me the last two days?

Keep your eyes closed.
 
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THE 91 siccness is the last remaining sanctuary for gangsta rap you dumb fucker (Nitro).
That is basically a headliner to attract dumb fucks like yourself who don't have very much common sense. Do you really believe this is the only gangsta rap website on the internet? (HINT: B.A.R.T) The gathering of minds is a sub-forum where the siccness intellects discuss philosophies, politics, and anything involving some form of deep thought. So take your cop killing ass (and keep practicing on your hard appearance) to another forum if you don't like what's being discussed here.

FoeTwin said:
I hope some off the wall ish like an unarmed black teenager be shot and killed by police or a man be beaten to death the way homeboy did last week- it would be all these folx need to kick off a mass race riot, a catalyst to serve as an exapmle to this whole nation that we will no longer endure being mistreated and trampled upon.
What will happen is, this time 1,000 police are going to run out and storm the streets knowing that everyone out there is after them creating a serious amount of racially motivated anger. People will get hurt and people are going to die. In the end, a new day will rise, and things will continue the way they were.

It's really easy to preach when you start from the middle of this incident where the cops were beating him, but why don't you shoot for the source for a change. Once you hit the ground and return to reality, you still have assault on a police officer, resisting arrest, under the influence of narcotics, and thats not to mention what he did to attract these cops to him in the first place.

You hate it when people believe everything they hear from the media? What do you think everyone thinks about people like you who disbeleive everything the media says that conflicts with your beliefs; or people who pick and peice their own puzzle together with findings that support what they want to believe.

There will always remain one strong fact through all of this. All that man had to do was not assault the police, not take multiple illeagle drugs, and not resist arrest, and he would be shopping for christmas presents for his family. This is 100% fact. But ignore it, pick what goes along with your beliefs, preach it, find some followers and begin an meaningless empty revolution.

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There is a huge problem in cincinnati and it should not be ignored by ignorant ass people like you. Go ahead and continue to close your eyes and pretend everything is alright. Yeah Phil, there is no racial problem in amerikkka. It's all just part of our imagination.
It looks like there is a problem in Cincinnati on behalf of both white police officers and those black folks breaking the law and testing some of these police. I think the bigger problem lies in the precinct. Just so that we're clear on one thing, I am defending these white cops in this single incident, not every white cop who has had confrontation with a black man. Things need to change, but it takes both sides.
 
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HERESY said:
When black people have FINALLY had enough of *WHITE AMERICA* (the mentality, the conditions) It won't be a case of "crying wolf." First black people will have to ERADICATE the STEPIN FETCHIT SEMIAN NEGROES (such as AL, FARACOON, POWELL, R.SIMMONS and NIG JACKSON.)
There is no way that every black man in America is going to come to a realization that these leaders are in some way faulty (not my interpretation) or misguiding. These guys (who you just named) are highly respected by the majority of African Americans in this country, at least from my own expierences in talking with them. These gentlemen will remain at their positions and continue to lead for as long as it takes to peacefully rise the African American culture from the ruins.

HERESY said:
For the Einstein's who say the guy was doped up who said that? If I'm not mistaking didn't the coroner say he had drugs in his system? That does not mean HE was doped up. That means he had drugs in his system. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR WEED TO LEAVE YOUR SYSTEM? 14-30 DAYS? WHAT ABOUT HOP (HEROIN)? THE *DOUBT* and TAINTED picture is drawn by the MEDIA. WHAT IF THE MAN SMOKED ALL THAT DOPE 30 DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH BUT GAVE HIS LIFE TO CHRIST AND WENT TO REHAB BEFORE HE DIED? IF YOU DIDN'T DO DRUGS WITH HIM HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WAS DOPED UP?
Actually, it more than likely does mean he was doped up. You began your theory nicely, weed does take time to leave the system, but who said anything about weed? Even if they reported weed in his system, clearly that is not the type of mind altering drug that would convince a man to attack police officers in a city where death amongst black people by cops is sky high. It was reported that he was on:

1. COCAINE: Leaves system in 1-2 days.
2. PCP: Leaves system in 1-8 days.
3. Methanol: [?]

So with that knowledge we look at the footage and one can only assume that after reading about what was in this guys system, he was more than likely on it at that moment. If you have taken any classes on drugs you will find that PCP will increase a mans anger/frustration significantly and commonly cause outbursts, coincidence if you ask some. While we can't be 100% certain, the truth would be highly favored to the notion that he was "doped up". Anyone can make 20 statements questioning the "truth" but unless you have evidence to prove otherwise, it's just mumbo jumbo if you will.

HERESY said:
THIS IS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE MEDIA:

"HE WAS HIGH ON DOPE"

"HE WAS HIGH ON PCP"

"HE WAS HIGH ON COKE"
From every broadcats of this incident that I have seen, those were only the concluding words of the reporter, making up for about 3 seconds of the story. It would have made up for a nice contraversy had the media talked about how evil he was for 5 minutes straight.

HERESY said:
In your OPINION the tape showed that the cops acted properly. In the eyes of others it may be a different story. Why would the cops turn the tape over to the media? Do cops turn over all the arrest/death scene material they record? Are you implying that the cops wanted to get this footage to the public so they could have a clear name????? Do cops turn over all the footage they get when they act properly? If not why turn over THIS particular piece of footage?
I don't like answering for other people, but I can't wait for him to come on here, and I already know exactly what he's going to say. Once everything was done, all that was left was a bunch of white cops standing over a dead body. Your average person, givin the history of the city, would find it very hard to believe a group of white cops when they try to justify the incident. So what better way to help people understand the situation, than to provide a video tape of what really happened.

It's either the media talks about what they heard, a black man getting beaten to death by a white cops for unknown reasons.

Or the cops provide a tape to the media so they can air it and show why they went to great lengths to subdue him.

HERESY said:
WAS IT EDITED OUT BECAUSE HE RECEIVED FURTHER ABUSE FROM THE OFFICERS *AFTER HE WAS DETAINED*? THIS HAPPENS A LOT AND IS OFTEN CAUGHT ON VIDEO TAPE. THE MILDLY RETARDED KID AND RODNEY KING SHOULD BE ENOUGH PROOF OF THAT.
Was it the BLACK officer that arrived on the scene that gave him the final beating that killed him? He must have supervised it, I don't see a black cop leaving another black man who has just been nearly beaten to death by white cops (sure it's happened before, right.--doesn't matter either way).

Did this victim shoot 5 people before he got to the scene?

Maybe the coronor wasn't the smartest guy in the world as he skipped over evidence showing the man also had crack and LSD in his system.

Maybe after the tape was off, the black man got back up and tried to fight them again, going for their gun this time. If the media is as untruthful as you guys say they are, editing out the parts that would justify the mans death would make for a shitload of television viewers.

Maybe nothing happened after the death, therefore leaving no reason for i-net companies to leave minutes of streaming video showing absolutely nothing, saving bandwidth.

Maybe the guy was a racist black man, who felt it was neccessary to yell out racial slurs towards police officers. Maybe then he started swinging at the officers; perhaps he continued his struggle resisting arrest and trying to assault the police even further. Maybe he tried to grab the weapon the cops were using. Maybe, just maybe he was on drugs at the time.

Wait a second... :dead:
 
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HERESY said:
THIS IS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE MEDIA:

"HE WAS HIGH ON DOPE"

"HE WAS HIGH ON PCP"

"HE WAS HIGH ON COKE"
i havent heard that from the media, all i have heard is that he had Mehtanol, Cocaine, and PCP in his system.

HERESY said:
I'm not saying the man is a saint. I don't know the man. What I do know is that you have a man DEAD. BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER HOW MANY OF YOU POLICE ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF POLICE *BRUTALITY* /ABUSE, HAVE AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS BEEN BEATEN BY THE POLICE OR HAVE WITNESSED POLICE BRUTALITY *FIRST HAND*?
i have

HERESY said:
Maybe the coroner isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer? Maybe the coroner accepts bribe money?
all you are doing is trying to cast doubt by asking silly ass questions, about people that have nothing to do with what the tape shows, which was A MAN THAT WEIGHS 400 POUNDS ATTACKING AN OFFICER AND REFUSING TO STAND DOWN AFTER BEING ASKED TO REPEATEDLY SEVERAL TIMES.