Manny Pacquiao vs. Brandon Rios Nov. 23rd Live From China

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WHO WINS?

  • Pacquiao by TKO

    Votes: 21 51.2%

  • Pacquiao by Decision

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • Rios by TKO

    Votes: 7 17.1%

  • Rios by Decision

    Votes: 4 9.8%

  • Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    41
CZAR

CZAR

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Canelo did have a great camp but unfortunately he had to fight the greatest of all time and so no matter of great of a camp he had he was still gonna get destroyed. Rios is not fighting Floyd so him having a great camp will do wonders thus why he will retire Manny in my book. Got Em!!
 
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CZAR said:
He did but then u said he fought Robinson which I didnt know so u tell me. Got Em!!
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So you're saying Floyd is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson? Lol cmon man! You realize Robinson through his first 124 fights, he lost one time, to a Middleweight Jake Lamotta, who Robinson went on to beat 5 times just to settle the score. So before he was old and fat, he was 123-1 with 83 KO's beating guys like:


Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Jake Lamotta
Carmen Basilio
Rocky Graziano
Fritzie Zivic
Joey Maxim
Gene Fullmer
Randy Turpin
Sammy Angott

Just to name a few.
 
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bigface

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battle619 said:
No bitch, cuz Canelo had a "fantastic" training camp, looked better than ever, and look at what happened. But you are right on this might being a good fight. Its not a catch weight fight so we as fans get to see both fighters at 100%
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Why would it be a catch weight when Rios is moving up from 140lb after a lost. Lol. Just stop it already this is a look good fight for Manny nothing more nothing less. Real boxing fans want to at least see Rios land something clean on Manny. But then again Rios does not have one punch KO power, and this is his first fight at 147lb. So basically Mr. 100% this fight is made for Manny to look good and dumb asses like you to hype this up like it means something. If Manny KOes or beats up Bradley in a rematch then I'm hyped again.
 
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bigface

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2-0-Sixx said:
So you're saying Floyd is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson? Lol cmon man! You realize Robinson through his first 124 fights, he lost one time, to a Middleweight Jake Lamotta, who Robinson went on to beat 5 times just to settle the score. So before he was old and fat, he was 123-1 with 83 KO's beating guys like:


Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Jake Lamotta
Carmen Basilio
Rocky Graziano
Fritzie Zivic
Joey Maxim
Gene Fullmer
Randy Turpin
Sammy Angott

Just to name a few.
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How many of those fighter have you seen video of to judge or do you just look at a record. How many times have Ray Robinson fought a guy weighting 155-165lb for a fight at 147lb. Fight someone that has videotapes of all your fights. Different time people. Floyd is one of the GOATS like it or not.


126-130lb Manny is one of the GOATS.
 
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bigface said:
How many of those fighter have you seen video of to judge or do you just look at a record. How many times have Ray Robinson fought a guy weighting 155-165lb for a fight at 147lb. Fight someone that has videotapes of all your fights. Different time people. Floyd is one of the GOATS like it or not.


126-130lb Manny is one of the GOATS.
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Ive seen all of those guys. Robinson weighed in as a welterweight when he fought Jale Lamotta at middleweight a couple times. This was before junior middleweight only 8 divisions. Robinson weighed as a welter for quite a few of his middleweight fights in fact. Get a clue, man.

I never said Floyd isn't a great but to call him The Greatest of all time is laughable and a disrespect to the sport. Robinson, Ali, Leonard, cmon man. Floyd's resume is far to weak to be top 20, period.
 
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CZAR

CZAR

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2-0-Sixx said:
So you're saying Floyd is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson? Lol cmon man! You realize Robinson through his first 124 fights, he lost one time, to a Middleweight Jake Lamotta, who Robinson went on to beat 5 times just to settle the score. So before he was old and fat, he was 123-1 with 83 KO's beating guys like:


Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Jake Lamotta
Carmen Basilio
Rocky Graziano
Fritzie Zivic
Joey Maxim
Gene Fullmer
Randy Turpin
Sammy Angott

Just to name a few.
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Haha dude I didnt ask for a resume of Robinson lol. We just have a difference in opinion. Floyd is the greatest in my book period! This is new day and age from when Robinson was fighing. Things were very different back then. Floyd would smack anybody up in a fantasy match or if it could happen. He is that great! I am judging on greatness, talent, and overall take on who I think could beat any fighter within the weight limits. Got Em!!
 
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battle619

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You right tho. But just imagine if the fighters of then were accessed the medicine and technology of today, how great they would be? Imagine if they kept their bodies fresh like the fighters of today? Or knew exactly what to eat? I feel the reason Floyd is so "great" is because he never abused his body and takes full advantage of todays technology to take care of his body. Manny is young theoretically, but has gone through some real wars for the love of the sport. If Manny became so picky about winning or loosing and never bothered with rematches and even picked the fighters, imagine how beastly he would be right now? He would have been tested by the government right B @bigface ? The fight with him and Floyd would have been forced! But it will always be hard to say who is better than the other and that's why you look at the resume of a fighter to declare that because that is stamped in the books. Fight the best in your division
 
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8FIVE8

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floyd is not the goat. u smokin rocks if u say some crack head shit like that. i bet u think bobby brown is the king of r&b too. r.i.p. whitney
 
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bigface

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2-0-Sixx said:
Ive seen all of those guys. Robinson weighed in as a welterweight when he fought Jale Lamotta at middleweight a couple times. This was before junior middleweight only 8 divisions. Robinson weighed as a welter for quite a few of his middleweight fights in fact. Get a clue, man.

I never said Floyd isn't a great but to call him The Greatest of all time is laughable and a disrespect to the sport. Robinson, Ali, Leonard, cmon man. Floyd's resume is far to weak to be top 20, period.
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If you had a clue you would have read that I said Mayweather is ONE of the goats. Plus you would actually realize that Mayweather resume is still be written because he's still not done fighting. Canelo, Ortiz, The Ghost, Cotto are all still fighting too. What if one of those guys go on to become a HOFers, Cotto is a future HOFers. Mayweather is not done yet.


Next back to Manny vs. Rios.
 
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bigface said:
If you had a clue you would have read that I said Mayweather is ONE of the goats. Plus you would actually realize that Mayweather resume is still be written because he's still not done fighting. Canelo, Ortiz, The Ghost, Cotto are all still fighting too. What if one of those guys go on to become a HOFers, Cotto is a future HOFers. Mayweather is not done yet.


Next back to Manny vs. Rios.
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We know damn well Ortiz and Guerrero aren't going to be hall of famers. Cotto will. I highly doubt Canelo but he's young.

Czar was saying Floyd was the GOAT, that's what I was arguing against.
 
CZAR

CZAR

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8FIVE8 said:
floyd is not the goat. u smokin rocks if u say some crack head shit like that. i bet u think bobby brown is the king of r&b too. r.i.p. whitney
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Do u think I care what u think? Miss me wit it. U have your opinion and I have mine and u wont change my mind with shallow insults with no arguments in place. Atleast 206 gives knowledge and has actual arguments to disagree but saying stupid shit like "oh man u smokin crack dude haha" get out of here with that elementary shit! Back to boxing. Got Em!!
 
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We know damn well Ortiz and Guerrero aren't going to be hall of famers. Cotto will. I highly doubt Canelo but he's young.

Czar was saying Floyd was the GOAT, that's what I was arguing against.
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It's funny how you bring up Ortiz and Guerrero but leave off Oscar, Marquez, Mosley, and Cotto. Now just stop it with the double standards.


Manny fights Saturday and you talking about Mayweather.
 
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