Manny Pacquiao vs. Brandon Rios Nov. 23rd Live From China

[The Bay Area]

I'm a BIG Floyd fan but look...do you really think that if Floyd fell behind on the score cards against Ray Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, or Duran that he would come forward to engage any of them for the KO victory...not happening. Floyd's ONLY chance is by keeping a lead and if Zab Judah could jump out first I know damn well any of the afore mentioned fighters could. Plus you got to factor in Floyd will HAVE TO THROW MORE PUNCHES versus these guys cause pot shots wont get it...so that brings up his brittle hands...imagine him and Hagler going to war and Floyd pulls up lame with a hand injury. Ray and Tommy's use of the jab and combination punching was superior to Mayweather...last thing...there is NO WAY that Floyd KO's any of these legends if he can't dispense of Guerrero, Canelo, Marquez and Cotto in KO fashion...NONE of them fighters would have been standing up at the end of the fight if they were fighting the FAB 4. Mayweather...just like his father Floyd Sr...doesn't carry the power outage of those guys.

 

[CZAR]

I dont know about ko, but Floyd would beat all of those guys and thats all that matters. Got Em!!

 

[Johnny Truelove]

roach got the "this is sparta" kick lol

 

[bigface]

I love this fake beef those PPV number most be real low. Now they going full beef mode before the fight. Lol.. I love it.

Manny is going to kill Rios.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Ariza is such a fag. How you kick a man with Parkinson's? And he was making fun of his Parkinson's / stuttering right before he kicked him. Lost respect for the Garcia camp acting like a bunch of lowlife savages. Rios might die

 

[WYNO707X4]

Freddie went over and started disrespecting everyone thats what u get...but ariza and roach they have major beef.

 

[battle619]

I'm thinking that its fake too, but I do feel Roach and Garcia have legit beef since it has existed for years now since Margarito. But the US PPV numbers won't matter that much since China is receiving this fight like we did Canelo vs Floyd. I really hope Rios does win cuz fools like Gamboa and Broner been ducking him and he could have been a bigger name but Manny is just that great.

 

[JLMACN]

Ariza is such a fag. How you kick a man with Parkinson's? And he was making fun of his Parkinson's / stuttering right before he kicked him. Lost respect for the Garcia camp acting like a bunch of lowlife savages. Rios might die

I mean you have to be a bitch to make fun of someone with a disease, but then to go and kick them?? You have a be complete female!!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Purses for 11/23: Pacquiao $30 million, Rios:$4 million, Zou Shiming:$500,000.

Pacquiao guaranteed $18 million and can make close to $30 million. Rios guaranteed $4 million. Zou Shiming is earning $500,000.

per Kevin Iole

 

[Johnny Truelove]

Damn even fighting a china manny still makes a fraction of what mayweather makes lmao it's sad when an opponent offers you more money (40 million) then what your promotor can get you.... Wow.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

$30 million is a fraction of what Floyd makes? Lol ok I guess you're not as math wiz.

$30 million is hella good for a comeback fight against a guy he's supposed to beat easy don't know what you're smoking. Plus no taxes, versus 39% tax from Vegas.

And I don't have to explain that $40 million "offer" from Floyd again do I?

 

[HERESY]

Actually that's good for Manny. Two recent losses, a fight against a guy he is expected to be beat and no taxes.

 

[bigface]

I'm thinking that its fake too, but I do feel Roach and Garcia have legit beef since it has existed for years now since Margarito. But the US PPV numbers won't matter that much since China is receiving this fight like we did Canelo vs Floyd. I really hope Rios does win cuz fools like Gamboa and Broner been ducking him and he could have been a bigger name but Manny is just that great.

Lol. So now Broner ducked Bum Bum Rios? When did that happen? I remember Rios was talking big shit until Broner knocked Perz and Demarco. Now Broner will be fighting his team mate Maidana and Rios is quiet as a church mouse. Rios dont want and never wanted any part of Broner in the ring. Rios got out boxed by mile High Mike for godsakes, Broner beat the brakes off Rios.

 

[bigface]

$30 million is a fraction of what Floyd makes? Lol ok I guess you're not as math wiz.

$30 million is hella good for a comeback fight against a guy he's supposed to beat easy don't know what you're smoking. Plus no taxes, versus 39% tax from Vegas.

And I don't have to explain that $40 million "offer" from Floyd again do I?

Anyone with half brain knows that Manny will not be making no damn $30 million for fighting Rios. Lol. This fight will be luck to do 500k PPV. And Manny will be luck if he even makes $18 million. This fight has no fucking buzz or hype to it at all. The highest grauntee purse Manny has on record in Vegas is 8 million and that was for his highest PPV fight vs. Mosley. So now you want me to believe that he is making $10 million more for Rios and a lower PPV number. Lol. Believe what you want but Manny is not even going to see anything close to $30 million for this under a million PPV buys fight.


Yes, he should've taking the $40 million in 2012 or the 50/50 split in 2009 but he was scared to fight The PPV King.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

For one, it's going to do more than 500,000 buys.

Two, you're not factoring in the Chinese Market. The gate money will be big (Macau is like Vegas) and the Chinese TV market, which it's potential could be massive.

Three, the reason Pacquiaos guarantee in Vegas is lower is because of the 39% tax, and a second but lower tax in the Philippines. TR has a low guarantee in Vegas, which is taxed at 39%, then after the PPV money comes in, which the majority of the money they make, is given to Pacquiao in the Philippines at a much much lower tax rate. If TR had huge guarantees for him in Vegas he would be taxed twice and higher on all of that money. Idiotic.

 

[dookie1]

Purses for 11/23: Pacquiao $30 million, Rios:$4 million, Zou Shiming:$500,000.

Pacquiao guaranteed $18 million and can make close to $30 million. Rios guaranteed $4 million. Zou Shiming is earning $500,000.

per Kevin Iole

What is rios projected to bring home? i see u went from 18 to 30m for manny, but stayed at 4m for brandon....

 

[dookie1]

Ariza is such a fag. How you kick a man with Parkinson's? And he was making fun of his Parkinson's / stuttering right before he kicked him. Lost respect for the Garcia camp acting like a bunch of lowlife savages. Rios might die

I agree, you shouldnt hit an Ill human being... But Roach nutted up on them first! Calling them "mexican muthaphukers"!! then he kinda went in like he wanted to do something!!! He got what was coming to him!

 

[Coach E. No]

I'm a BIG Floyd fan but look...do you really think that if Floyd fell behind on the score cards against Ray Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, or Duran that he would come forward to engage any of them for the KO victory...not happening. Floyd's ONLY chance is by keeping a lead and if Zab Judah could jump out first I know damn well any of the afore mentioned fighters could. Plus you got to factor in Floyd will HAVE TO THROW MORE PUNCHES versus these guys cause pot shots wont get it...so that brings up his brittle hands...imagine him and Hagler going to war and Floyd pulls up lame with a hand injury. Ray and Tommy's use of the jab and combination punching was superior to Mayweather...last thing...there is NO WAY that Floyd KO's any of these legends if he can't dispense of Guerrero, Canelo, Marquez and Cotto in KO fashion...NONE of them fighters would have been standing up at the end of the fight if they were fighting the FAB 4. Mayweather...just like his father Floyd Sr...doesn't carry the power outage of those guys.

Well, to be fair, against Hagler and Duran they would be coming right at him. I seriously doubt Floyd could ko either guy, even at 135lbs for Duran. I think Floyd's biggest challenge against Leonard would be that I think Leonard was actually faster than Floyd. Tommy had sick range and power and great skills to go with that. But who are we kidding? Floyd wouldn't have fought any of those guys if they were in their prime when Floyd was around? lol

 

[Coach E. No]

Anyone with half brain knows that Manny will not be making no damn $30 million for fighting Rios. Lol. This fight will be luck to do 500k PPV. And Manny will be luck if he even makes $18 million. This fight has no fucking buzz or hype to it at all. The highest grauntee purse Manny has on record in Vegas is 8 million and that was for his highest PPV fight vs. Mosley. So now you want me to believe that he is making $10 million more for Rios and a lower PPV number. Lol. Believe what you want but Manny is not even going to see anything close to $30 million for this under a million PPV buys fight.


Yes, he should've taking the $40 million in 2012 or the 50/50 split in 2009 but he was scared to fight The PPV King.

I bet he makes close to 30 for this fight. I'd be really curious to see the percentage of tv viewers in China for this fight. Shiming has had great numbers for his wack fights, what makes you think Pacquiao wouldn't?

 

[Coach E. No]

I don't know the whole story but Roach instigated that whole situation by the looks of it and he was WAY out of line. I don't think a dude with Parkinson's should be hit or kicked like that but he's got a huge mouth. It's just like if a woman is talking like she's gonna bomb on some dude and challenging him to a fight, sooner or later she's gonna get what's coming to her. I'm not saying I agree with it but sometimes people need to be put in their place. Freddie came in like he ran the damn gym, majorly disrespected Garcia (even though Pacquiao wasn't even there yet) and demanding that they leave, then tells Ariza to kick him out like 5+ times and starts approaching him and gets kicked. Then Roach busts out some racist stuff against Mexicans and Jews. I think Roach got what he deserved.