The Official Seattle Mariners Thread
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I disagree, I don't think he has to hit 50 homeruns, as long as he stay's healthy and the M's are competitive in the A.L. West than attendance should be fine. Think about where the team was before Griffey, with Griffey, and now. The people of Seattle will show their team love if we bring him back IMO.
Edit: Damn I've been dying to move back to Seattle so I could watch all the Mariners/Sonics/Seahawks games and now the fucking M's are awful, Sonics are leaving. Thanks god for the Seahawks.
Edit: Damn I've been dying to move back to Seattle so I could watch all the Mariners/Sonics/Seahawks games and now the fucking M's are awful, Sonics are leaving. Thanks god for the Seahawks.
ok...but he still has to prove he can play more than like 80 games a season, and who are we going to give up for him? and as for being competitive in the AL west? lol...our "star" pitcher just got shelled in two innings, we put together a bunch of hits, but once again we cant put together an all around game, if our hitters are on, our pitching sucks, if the pitching is there, we cant get past first base. but whatever man hey if we get griffey and attendance goes up and we start winning, then all the better
^^^ I'm not denying the fact that Griffey is one big walking injury. Or that the Mariners are not a championship caliber team at the moment. All I'm saying is that Griffey had a huge impact on the area back in the 90's and I think that was obvious when he came back to Seattle last year and had like a 5 minute standing ovation in an opponets uniform 9 years later.
Did anyone think that the Mariners would win 116 games before the 2001 season? No, but they hit a hot streak, and it just happened to last all the way up to the playoffs. They had talent and they found ways to win. This team this year has talent they just aren't on the same page, and theirs too much underachieving going on. I don't think the Mariners are in need of an entire rebuilding process, just a little bit of momentum to go their way and to stay healthy.
I don't know about all you guys but if Griffey's back next year I'll make it to at least 5 games instead of my typical 2 games a year.
Did anyone think that the Mariners would win 116 games before the 2001 season? No, but they hit a hot streak, and it just happened to last all the way up to the playoffs. They had talent and they found ways to win. This team this year has talent they just aren't on the same page, and theirs too much underachieving going on. I don't think the Mariners are in need of an entire rebuilding process, just a little bit of momentum to go their way and to stay healthy.
I don't know about all you guys but if Griffey's back next year I'll make it to at least 5 games instead of my typical 2 games a year.
i live in montana, i havent been to safeco since its opening year, but i am planning on going when i go home to portland here this summer, even if they are this terrible. griffey might bring back fans for the first few home games that he is back, but when the team continues to lose they'll stop coming. i mean shit it would be awesome to have him back just because, im just sayin that unless they win attendance will stay where its at
Griffey would be a DH so he wouldnt have to play in the outfield were he usually gets injured. We wont have to give up anything but a scrub because he is a free agent at the end of the year and has already mentioned going to seattle. How could you not want Griffey back as a Mariner shit we have nothing else to look forward to this year.
I feel you.
But TX is a team on the rise, they are stocked down on the farm, and the Hamilton for Volquez deal will go down as one of the best trades in the 21st century (yes I know what Volquez is doing in Cincinnati now).
They have Hamilton for 2 more years at $400,000 and then the following three in arbitration (which will probably go 6 mil, 8 mil, 10 mil), so basically they're going to have one of the best CFs in baseball for the next 5 years for 25 million bucks.
But TX is a team on the rise, they are stocked down on the farm, and the Hamilton for Volquez deal will go down as one of the best trades in the 21st century (yes I know what Volquez is doing in Cincinnati now).
They have Hamilton for 2 more years at $400,000 and then the following three in arbitration (which will probably go 6 mil, 8 mil, 10 mil), so basically they're going to have one of the best CFs in baseball for the next 5 years for 25 million bucks.
After the current slaughter of the Mariners is over, they'll be 18-32 (.360, tied w/the Padres for worst record in baseball) after 50 games, with 112 games left.
They'll have to go 63-49 (.560) to end the season at .500.
They'll have to go 70-42 (.625) to match last season's record of 88-74.
They'll have to go 76-36 (.670) to match last season's AL West Champions record of 94-68.
They'll have to go 98-14 (.875) to match their insane 2001 record of 116-46.
Goodnight now!
They'll have to go 63-49 (.560) to end the season at .500.
They'll have to go 70-42 (.625) to match last season's record of 88-74.
They'll have to go 76-36 (.670) to match last season's AL West Champions record of 94-68.
They'll have to go 98-14 (.875) to match their insane 2001 record of 116-46.
Goodnight now!
They're awful.
The people at Baseball Prospectus who are very adament about run differential and it's ability to predict future performance are smiling over this one right now. Seattle had a negative run differential last year even though they won 88, Baseball Prospectus published some stuff over the winter saying Seattle was do for a fall (they predicted 73 wins for '08).
The people at Baseball Prospectus who are very adament about run differential and it's ability to predict future performance are smiling over this one right now. Seattle had a negative run differential last year even though they won 88, Baseball Prospectus published some stuff over the winter saying Seattle was do for a fall (they predicted 73 wins for '08).
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2004435764_mari24.html
"Playing on this team and seeing what is happening around me, I feel that something is beginning to fall apart," Ichiro said through a translator. "But, if I was not in this situation, and I was objectively watching what just happened this week, I would probably be drinking a lot of beers and booing."
"Playing on this team and seeing what is happening around me, I feel that something is beginning to fall apart," Ichiro said through a translator. "But, if I was not in this situation, and I was objectively watching what just happened this week, I would probably be drinking a lot of beers and booing."
No it's not that simple, it's very seldom an effort issue w/ the players, that's one of the most common misconceptions among fans. Didn't you see Beltre in the 9th inning the other day when the Mariners were down?
The real issue is that Ichiro is philosophically opposed to diving for balls b/c he thinks it helps his chances of staying healthy. I would agree that it does, and is certainly a good idea in many situations (i.e. why do it when you're up by 7 or down by 9, in that situation it is really stupid), however for a situation when the game is on the line, you absolutely have to go get that ball. Ichiro is not exactly a "gamer," and never has been, and has never had to be one, as he has stayed healthy and his talent was more than enough to get by on. But that may no longer be the case, he has lost 2 steps on the bases (tonight he hit a very slow roller and was thrown out at 1st, a few years ago infielders were peeing their pants when he hit a medium speed ground ball their way).
I could see that happening but not until his contract is close to expiring w/ the Mariners (so not for 3-4 years), ownership will never go for that. They clearly have a different way of dealing w/ Japanese players.
I am with you on that one. He deserves far more of the blame than McLaren, far more.
The real issue is that Ichiro is philosophically opposed to diving for balls b/c he thinks it helps his chances of staying healthy. I would agree that it does, and is certainly a good idea in many situations (i.e. why do it when you're up by 7 or down by 9, in that situation it is really stupid), however for a situation when the game is on the line, you absolutely have to go get that ball. Ichiro is not exactly a "gamer," and never has been, and has never had to be one, as he has stayed healthy and his talent was more than enough to get by on. But that may no longer be the case, he has lost 2 steps on the bases (tonight he hit a very slow roller and was thrown out at 1st, a few years ago infielders were peeing their pants when he hit a medium speed ground ball their way).
I could see that happening but not until his contract is close to expiring w/ the Mariners (so not for 3-4 years), ownership will never go for that. They clearly have a different way of dealing w/ Japanese players.
I am with you on that one. He deserves far more of the blame than McLaren, far more.