THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 SEASON THREAD

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just saw on TV that Gradkowski is doubtful for next week, and could be done for the rest of the season... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
 

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YEA,I SAW THAT TOO,...BOTH KNEES SHOT OUT ON HIM TODAY!,..BUT U KNOW WUT,..FUCK IT,..EVEN THRU ALL THE BULLSHIT,..IN THESE LAST 4 GAMES WE FOUND THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL,...NOW,..ITS ABOUT REGROUPING AND GETTING READY FOR NEXT SEASON,...WE FOUND THE ANSWER IN BRUCE,..AND NOW WE CAN GO INTO CAMP NEXT YEAR CONFIDENT WITH HOPEFULLY A NEW LEADER AND START FRESH AND SEE WHERE IT TAKES US,...GET A LIL MORE PROTECTION IN THE OFF SEASON, AND YEA,..NEXT YEAR IS GONNA BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY IF WE HAVE BRUCE IN AS STARTING Q.B FROM DAY 1 I THINK...BUT MAN ,FUCK OUR LUCK!
 

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YEA,I SAW THAT TOO,...BOTH KNEES SHOT OUT ON HIM TODAY!,..BUT U KNOW WUT,..FUCK IT,..EVEN THRU ALL THE BULLSHIT,..IN THESE LAST 4 GAMES WE FOUND THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL,...NOW,..ITS ABOUT REGROUPING AND GETTING READY FOR NEXT SEASON,...WE FOUND THE ANSWER IN BRUCE,..AND NOW WE CAN GO INTO CAMP NEXT YEAR CONFIDENT WITH HOPEFULLY A NEW LEADER AND START FRESH AND SEE WHERE IT TAKES US,...GET A LIL MORE PROTECTION IN THE OFF SEASON, AND YEA,..NEXT YEAR IS GONNA BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY IF WE HAVE BRUCE IN AS STARTING Q.B FROM DAY 1 I THINK...BUT MAN ,FUCK OUR LUCK!
yea, but hopefully Al actually decides to ride with Bruce... you never know what the fuck his crazy ass is gonna do

I wanted Bruce to play out the rest of the season, put up solid numbers and win a couple more games, that way he could solidify himself as a starter... he's only got 3 1/2 games under his belt right now... hopefully he did enough to prove himself

we still don't know FOR SURE if he's the answer... but he looks like he could be... and we might as well see what we got with him next season
 

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McDonald: Forget loss to Redskins, Gruden's visit gives Raiders fans a chance to dream
Former coach's appearance at Ricky's brings back memories of better days
By Jerry McDonald
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 12/13/2009 09:40:17 PM PST
Updated: 12/13/2009 10:22:27 PM PST

Hope arrived not at the Coliseum Sunday, but several hours before at Ricky's Sports Theater and Grill in San Leandro.

There, a hearty group of Raiders fans dared to dream of better days. Or maybe they were fondly recalling the same thing.

The guy dressed like a gorilla, a man with a shield where his head should be and a third with spikes and imitation armor posed for a photo with a familiar smiling face who wore a Raiders visor and a brand new No. 34 Bo Jackson jersey.

Not far away the marquee proudly announced the appearance of a favorite son:

``Welcome back Jon Gruden.''

As Gruden made his way to a luxury bus headed back to San Francisco, a glut of Raiders fans wearing the jerseys of their favorite players chanted, ``Come back Jon! Come back Jon!''

Hey, in the wake of the Raiders' 34-13 loss to the Washington Redskins, you can't stop a fanatic from wishing for a miracle.

Gruden is in San Francisco to work as an analyst for ESPN for the Cardinals-49ers game on Monday Night Football. Rather than have dinner in the city, he returned to one of his favorite East Bay haunts.

Upon arrival, Gruden went into the memorabilia store on site, bought himself the jersey and insisted those in his group, including play-by-play man Mike Tirico and co-analyst Ron Jaworski, wear Raiders hats.

He sprung for a crowded backroom Raider reunion, renewing acquaintances, slapping backs and shaking hands with a seemingly never-ending reception line of invited guests _ many of whom are going to be glad their names won't be mentioned here.

Showing up to a Jon Gruden party is no way to please a boss whose team looks like a lock for its seventh straight season with 11 or more losses.

``Look at him,'' one Raiders employee said. ``He's still a rock star.''

Word got out Gruden was in the house, and a crowd gathered as he departed after 11:30 p.m. The excitement level as he slowly made his way out, interacting with fans, dwarfed anything that took place for the team he used to coach on a dreary Sunday in a 21-point loss to a team that entered Sunday with a 3-9 record.

The last three years Gruden coached in Oakland, his teams didn't lose a single regular season game by more than nine points, let alone 21.

It's become commonplace for the post-Gruden era Raiders, particularly with a 2009 team which treats success as if it were the weekly trash _ something pushed to the curb, hauled away and forgotten.

Four times the Raiders have won this season. In the four ensuing games, they've been outscored 119-23.

All the momentum generated by Bruce Gradkowski's three fourth-quarter touchdown passes against Pittsburgh dissipated once Gradkowski, making an awkward underhanded flip under pressure to Justin Fargas, was twisted to the ground by Brian Orakpo three plays before the end of the half.

He got up with one sprained MCL, one partially torn MCL, and the very real possibility that his season is over.

The Raiders did their best afterward to say the absence of Gradkowski, and the reappearance of JaMarcus Russell, wasn't the cause of the collective sag in their play in the second half.

Gradkowski was 10 of 18 for 153 yards and was sacked twice in the first half. Russell was 10 of 16 for 74 yards and sacked six times in the second half. He had no completion over 11 yards, and given his protection and lack of mobility, never had a chance.

Orakpo had four sacks, and Andre Carter had two.

``We knew JaMarcus was a pocket guy,'' Orakpo said. ``He wasn't a running threat. So I was able to let loose with all kinds of moves to get to him.''

In the second half, with Russell at quarterback, the Raiders had a net of 39 yards in total offense, after getting 188 with Gradkowski in the first half.

By game's end, with the tiny crowd (announced at 44,506, though there were considerably fewer than that in the stands) filtering out about midway through the fourth quarter, the Raiders went 227 yards forward (total offense) and 118 backwards (the yardage on 14 penalties).

It was dank and depressing, a feeling cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha knows all too well.

``You look up into the crowd and there's probably 10,000 people left, the birds are going, and it's a vision you've seen before,'' Asomugha said. ``It's just replaying in your head and it's not a good feeling. It's happened a good number of times each year, and when the feeling comes, it's not good.''

As for Gruden, he'll be working in the booth tonight at Candlestick Park. He's been gone eight years now and if you took a poll at Ricky's Saturday night, it would be nearly unanimous that the slide into oblivion began the day he left.

The fact that Gruden has refrained from publicly disparaging the Raiders _ Jaworski said he's never heard him utter a bad word about Davis _ is enough for the dreamers to speculate about a triumphant return.

Which brings us back to why Gruden was traded in the first place. He wanted to pick the 53-man roster and to pick his own coaching staff. He'd also command more than double what Davis has ever paid a coach.

And he'd probably want Bruce Allen and other members of the support staff that followed him to Tampa back as well.

We all know the odds of that happening.

Tell it to the gorilla, the shield head and the guy in the armor.
 

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Frye could get the nod

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, December 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Reading (or listening) between the lines Monday, it’s hard to come away with the impression that coach Tom Cable wants to go into the last three agmes of the season with JaMarcus Russell at quartertback.

Give him credit for not offering up a company line and insisting there’s been some grand change in Russell in the three games since he lost the starting job to Bruce Gradkowski.

Cable could have said:

“We really feel good about having JaMarcus back in the lineup. He’s gone above and beyond the call of duty in terms of preparation, appears to be taking his job more seriously and is turning it loose at quarterback. He played very well at Denver last season and we expect him to do so again.”

Instead, Cable said this:

“I think certainly I’m going to look at what the options are and again as I told you before I’ll do what’s best for this team, what gives us the best chance to win. Right now, it’s to figure out where Bruce is at here in the next 24-48 hours and then make that decision.”

Reality check: Gradkowski is a quarterback who thrives through mobility and has one torn MCL and one partially torn MCL. He’s not playing against Denver.

And this:

“You know after looking at it on film, I see some things that are the same. I think that there’s a couple things he did that were good. Again, I’ll look at all that here in the next 24 hours because if we’re heading towards a decision at the quarterback spot, then I pretty much do diligence in all those things and I’ll sit down and look through everything again.”

You wonder where Al Davis comes out on all this. At one point, he liked Frye enough to have him up to the office for a talk when he came for a visit early in free agency (although Frye didn’t sign until much later).

But Davis certainly wants Russell to begin achieving his potential, and there are three valuable lessons to be had.

Those three “lessons” could be the last games of Cable’s Raiders head coaching career if they go down without a fight.

Frankly, the Raiders didn’t put up much of one Sunday after Gradkowski went out of the game. Russell got almost no protection, and if you were to put Russell-Frye to a secret ballot as to which quarterback gives the better chance to win, the Raiders’ actions on the field against the Redskins suggest it would be Frye in a landslide.

Russell didn’t talk with reporters after the game, although Comcast SportsNet Bay Area managed to get a couple of minutes while Cable was addressing the press and before the quarterback made a hasty retreat.

“It’s kind of different coming in, and not starting,” Russell said. “Best thing to do is just let the game come to you, don’t force anything. Couldn’t get too much going. That’s basically it. Nothing else to be said, just couldn’t get nothing going.”

Asked if about his protection and the six second-half sacks, Russell said, “I don’t know, but I say everything is my fault, so I’ll put it on me, maybe. I could’ve stepped up a different way to protect those guys, but that’s what happened.”

Cable didn’t deny there seemed to be the entire team seemed to sag once Russell got in the game _ whether it was Russell’s fault or not.

“Potentially I guess there was,” Cable said. “I really didn’t feel that because you’re so into what you’re doing and all that. When you look at it on film, we look like a different team but to put that on them that way, I don’t want to do that. We’ve got to step up and all play better. That’s really the bottom line here.”

More Monday news and notes:

– Zach Miller walked past in an off-limits area of the Raiders facility, carrying a folder which had diagrams of the human brain on the outside. In his postgame press briefing, Cable said Miller had a stinger. He said Monday it was a concussion.

Miller also had a concussion on Oct. 4 against Houston.

“We’ll be as cautious as we have to be, and what I mean is we’ll protect the athlete and do all the testing and due diligence in terms of his return,” Cable said.

Cable said he thinks the league will take a close look at the hit by Rocky McIntosh without the Raiders having to send in the film as evidence. And he was pleased to see safety Mike Mitchell and cornerback Louis Murphy take exception to Fred Smoot’s celebration near the fallen Miller.

– Could be another week without rookie first-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey at wide receiver. The improvement in his foot sprain has been “minimal” and Cable said he was day-to-day.

– Safety Michael Huff is day-to-day with a stringer and hopes to make it through the season.

“I first did it in Dallas, and then I reinjured it in Pittsburgh. I finished the Pittsburgh game, I finished the Dallas game, so I can play with it,” Huff said. “I just have to make it through these last three.”

– Wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller will run on a machine this week and hopefully will soon graduate to grass. Is it possible Miller will make his debut in the Raiders season finale against Baltimore?

– The Redskins got to Raiders quarterbacks, and Russell in particular, with a Cover 1 defense in which any player that had a responisiblity to cover a back or tight end immediately became a pass rusher if those players were held in to block.

“Every pass play they can extra guy on you,” Cable said. “So it’s a matter of getting it out of your hand out there.”

– Defensive end Greg Ellis played well in Cable’s estimation and the hope is he can make it through the next three games. Ellis said afterward he has not thoughts of retiring and is committed to keeping his promise to Cable and Davis to help get the Raiders turned around.

Defensive end Richard Seymour, in the final year of his contract and potentially locked up with a franchise tag, said being with the Raiders if and when they become a good team would be gratifying, but noted, “Obviously that’s the business side of the game. As we all know, I thought I was going to be in New England last year and six days before the season I’m here in Oakland. You never know what happens so I’ll just let those chips fall where they may.”

– Cable shrugged off a pass interference call against Stanford Routt (Santana Moss fell and Routt tripped over him _ not exactly the textbook definition of a PI) as part of the game. Cornerback Chris Johnson said he understands the game is not set up for cornerbacks to succeed.

“If they’re going to call it like that, it may as well be touch football,” Johnson said.

Johnson laughed when asked if defensive assistant and Raiders Hall of Famer Willie Brown talked about playing cornerback in the true bump-and-run days of the American football League.

“He said he would like just get up and choke them,” Johnson said. “I’m like, ‘You can’t do that no more. You do that you’ll surely get flagged.’ We try to play the rules of this game. He tries to get us to do what he did back then. I said, ‘Nah, that ain’t going to work.’ ”

– A welcome sight _ Darren McFadden getting 74 yards on two snaps on the ball, one on a slant, the other on a slant-and-go, both against former SEC nemesis LaRon Landry (LSU).

“Just felt great to get out there and at least rip off a big play, whether it was running the ball or receiving, it just felt good get that in and get out there, move the ball around to me a little bit, felt good to move around out there,” McFadden said.

– McFadden and Justin Fargas both said Michael Bush, who never saw the field on offense has been accepting his reduced time like a professional.

Bush chatted amicably with reporters Monday about college basketball, but politely declined to discuss his current role with the Raiders.
 

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Javon Walker ??????where is he ?????another brillant Al move...bring back chucky u can tell he hates doing MNF that foo wants to coach
you guys hear em tonight when they were talking about the Raiders and Niners once being great franchises?

you know Gruden still has love for the Raiders, and of course the Raider fans still got love for Gruden... why don't we just make this shit happen??
 

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GRUDEN WONT COME BACK CUZ ONLY WAY ITS HAPPENING IS IF HE CAN GET TO PICK HIS SQUAD AND HIS COACHES THAT WERE WITH HIM IN TAMPA!...IF NOT THEN HE WONT DO IT ,..

AND JAVON WALKER I DONT THINK IS GETTING ANY PLAYING TIME BECAUSE HIS CONTRACT SAYS HE GETS PAID WUTS COMING TO HIM AND ALSO ON HOW HIS PLAYING PERFORMANCE IS ,..SO I THINK AL FIGURES IF HE DONT GIVE HIM ANY PLAYING TIME OR HARDLY ANY,..THEN HE WONT HAVE TO PAY HIM AS MUCH!...WICH IS KINNA STUPID AND SOME BULLSHIT!