THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 SEASON THREAD

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Meta4iCAL

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CABLE has got to go.. Bad personell and play calling choices all season long. This guy is not a head coach and needs to be replaced. I think we build our O Line in the off season and bring in either a marquee reciever and rock with Bruce or get a dope QB via trade or free agency and rock with the recievers we got. We need linebacker help, Strong safety and the other corner still isnt there. We also need full back and kick return help. Dump McFadden and J. Russ and most importantly build aorund what we have a line. I like Carlisle, Gallery and even Mario Henderson. We really need a center badly..
who would you suggest we get to replace Cable?

face it bro... this Raiders aren't likely getting anything better... switching coaches every single year is not good for the team

and I disagree with dumping Mcfadden... Mcfadden is a dnagerous weapon is utilized correctly (he needs to stop fumbling though) we just need to utilize him better, which Cable is starting to do...

Mcfadden had 74 rushing yards last week... the week before that he had 84 receiving yards... he's not horrible... it would be stupid to get rid of him considering how much we paid him

Russell has been HORRIBLE... which is why it would make sense to dump him

linebacker help? I agree, we could use another linebacker to help out Morrison and Howard

another corner? yes and no... Chris Johnson is really good sometimes, but also gets burnt... but you gotta remember, ANY corner playing opposite of Aso is gonna have a really tough job because almost every pass is going his way... I was really impressed wit CJ at the end of last season, I wouldn't mind seeing a better corner on the other side... but CJ isn't horrible if you ask me

and yes we do need a center for sure
 

Meta4iCAL

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I DISAGREE. I SAY KEEP CABLE. HE HAS THIS TEAM FIGHTING. HIS RESOLVE AND FOCUS IN THE MIDST OF ALL THE MEDIA ASSASSINATING HIS CHARACTER WAS REALLY REMARKABLE. EARLIER IN THE SEASON, I AGREED WITH YOU, JACK. BUT CABLE HAS WON ME OVER. I LISTEN TO CABLE EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT ON SIRIUS NFL RADIO. THIS GUY GETS IT. HE IS A FOOTBALL GUY. 100% THROUGH AND THROUGH. HE LOVES THE RAIDERS. HE'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SMART TOO.

THIS TEAM BELIEVES IN HIM. THEY PLAY HARD FOR HIM. HE SINGLEHANDEDLY RESURRECTED THE CAREERS OF ROBERT GALLERY, MICHAEL HUFF. THAT WAS ALL CABLE. ALSO, HE WORKS WELL WITH AL. SOMETHING WHICH NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO SINCE GRUDEN/ALLEN. AL RESPECTS HIS INPUT AND HE KNOWS WHEN TO STAND UP TO AL FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES.

MOST OF ALL, WHAT THE RAIDERS NEED IS CONTINUITY. TO PUT ANOTHER COACH IN, SO THE ENTIRE TEAM CAN LEARN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM, WOULD KEEP US A LOSING FRANCHISE. CABLE NEEDS MORE TIME. HE CAN MAKE THIS TEAM GOOD, AS WE'VE SEEN THIS SEASON WHEN WE BEAT PLAYOFF TEAMS. WE NEED TO KEEP CABLE!!! IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO HIRE A GOOD OC THAT CAN ASSUME PLAYCALLING DUTIES AND MAKE OPEN UP THE PLAYBOOK A BIT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, NOT A NEW HEAD COACH.
^ I agree
 
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What do you mean by a real coach.....? We need for Al Davis to give controll to a coach first......Cable is a real coach and hes doing a damn good job IMO........I agree if we can get gruden back then lets do it.....But Cable needs to be apart of the staff.....

I feel the players just want some stability right now......They are playing hard for Cable just as they played hard for Kiffin......If we get Gruden back he needs to be signed to a long contract, paid well and be given total controll of draft picks, play calling and what coaches are implemented......

Head coaches have not been our problem as of late.....Its been the stuborness of Al Davis that has been the problem.....
by real coach I mean someone who has good standing as a coach in the nfl. Someone who will make changes and do things the way they need to be done whether or not Al agrees.
 
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we need a true middle linebacker that lays the wood. we actually may be more suited for a 3-4 if we can get kelly to play like he is capable of. our linebackers lack that pop near the line of scrimmage. we have speed on defense and when we switch up our looks and blitz(run gaps) we are all right. our defense has to play moving forward, not reacting to the offense. when we do that, good things happen. we have some young talent and they need consistency. The Raiders are not that far off, i'm telling you... bring cable back.
 

Meta4iCAL

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by real coach I mean someone who has good standing as a coach in the nfl. Someone who will make changes and do things the way they need to be done whether or not Al agrees.
that's the problem

you can't expect a coach to do whatever he wants, whether Al agrees or not... if he does that he's likely gonna be fired... unless what he does works and changes Al's mind of course... but that would require Al to basically admit he was wrong... which he doesn't like to do

I don't think any coach is gonna completely go against their owner... that's called insubordination... the difference with other teams is that the coaches are usually given control... therefore they're not put in a situation where they're forced to go against their owners
 

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Raiders lay down gauntlet to Cribbs

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders punter Shane Lechler watched film of Cleveland’s Josh Cribbs and made the following assessment:

“I’m pretty sure he’s the best we’ve faced _ ever _ in my 10 years here.”

The last time Cribbs faced the Raiders, he returned a kickoff 99 yards for a touchdown with the Browns trailing 16-0, with Cleveland climbing back into the game and losing 26-24 when Tommy Kelly blocked a field goal in the final seconds.

Two more came last week against the Chiefs, with returns of 100 and 103 yards for touchdowns contributing to a 41-34 win.

Cribbs, in his fifth year out of Kent State, has eight kickoff returns for touchowns plus a pair of scores on punts. He’s averaging 27.8 yards per kickoff return this season and 13.3 yards on punts with one touchdown. In his spare time, he lines up as a wide receiver, wildcat quarterback and plays on coverage units.

Lechler, however, has no plans to avoid Cribbs. Mindful of how the Raiders shut down an equally hot returner in Week 10 of the 2007 season in Chicago’s Devin Hester, he’ll kick it deep and trust his teammates to cover.

Hester finished his day in Oakland with six punt returns for 14 yards and a pair of kickoff returns for 34, the bright spot in a 17-6 loss to the Bears.

So the Raiders have no plans to back down and kick for the sideline.

“We’re going to do exactly what we did to Hester, what we did to Dante Hall four years ago when he was at Kansas City,” Lechler said. “ When you do that, it goes to show that you don’t trust your guys. I’m willing to put my guys up against anybody. I like my guys. My punt team is outstanding, they play their butt off every Sunday.”

Said Isaiah Ekejiuba: “Shane is not a directional punter. He’s going to let the ball go, and we’re going to go down and cover the way we need to cover.”

And this from Sam Williams: “On special teams, we’re not afraid of any challenge, we don’t back down, we kick to anybody, we have the best kicker in the league and we feel like we have one of the best cover teams in the league.”

Cribbs, talking to Bay Area writers by conference call, was happy to hear the news.

“If that’s true, then they’ve got egos and we’ve got to prove it to them like we’ve got to prove it to everybody else,” Cribbs said.

Cribbs patterned his game after former Redskins return specialist Brian Mitchell, who finished his career with an NFL record 13 special teams touchdowns. Lechler said Cribbs is the most fearless punt return specialist in the game, noting an absurdly low total of three fair catches.

“I love it when (the other team) is in my face because that means once I get past the first window, the first couple of guys, then I’m out in the open,” Cribbs said. “You know, get past that first wave, chances are really high for me to take it to the end zone.”

In terms of style, Cribbs, 6-foot-1 and 215 pounds, is nothing like Hester (5-foot-11, 190) and more like Mitchell, who was 5-11, 221. He’s bigger than Hester, not as fast, but more physical and excels in bad weather.

“He’s doing now is what Devin Hester did a couple years ago, but in a very different way,” Ekejiuba said. “He has great vision. He sees where the holes are, it’s like he guesses where the holes are and he hits them before they even form. That’s what makes him so good.

“He gets to places where a lot of returners can’t do, and he breaks a lot of tackles.”

More to come . . .
 

Meta4iCAL

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Frye to start

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable said Charlie Frye had cleared all tests relative to his concussion and is line to start “as of today” against Cleveland Sunday.

Frye practiced without limitations. Cable said Bruce Gradkowski, who did not practice Thursday, was improving rapidly but still “doubtful” to be available.

Players must be symptom-free to practice and play, meaning if Frye were to have a reoccurence of headaches before Sunday, he would be out. He declined to speak to reporters coming off the field, saying he was scheduled to talk Thursday _ which is usually the day the Raiders starting quarterback speaks.

Tight end Zach Miller was also on the field, having passed his tests, and was limited in practice.

More to come . . .
 

Meta4iCAL

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Defenders look forward to seeing Ryan

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes from Wednesday’s pracitce, open locker room session and Tom Cable’s post-practice press briefing as the Raiders prepare to face the Cleveland Browns:

– Linebacker Kirk Morrison had a call on his cell phone Monday morning and recognized the booming voice immediately.

“It’s on! It’s bedlam!”

And then Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan hung up.

Linebacker Thomas Howard looked forward to talking with Ryan before the game when teams take the field for initial warmups.

“We love that guy from when he was here,” Howard said. “You always have a place in your heart for a guy like that. He drafted me and was my coordinator. But, hey, we’re on opposite sides of the field this Sunday and we’re getting after him. Like he said, it’s bedlam.”

Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, a safety learning to play corner, thought Ryan’s brash confidence was something he needed during difficult times earlier in his career.

“He was one of the only coaches that stuck by me when I was in the beginning of my career trying to learn the new position,” Asomugha said. “The amount of confidence he had in me was huge and it did a lot for my development as far as growth with the cornerback position. I owe a lot to him and he knows that already so it’s going to be great seeing him. He’s a favorite of mine.”

– Ryan didn’t have a lot of details regarding Frye’s starting assignment other than to say he’s passed the requisite tests, expects him to be able to play and that he looked fine in practice.

“I know that when I came out here they said Charlie’s passed everything and he’s good to go, so that’s what I can report to,” Cable said.

He thinks Frye will build on his game against Denver, where he wasn’t impressive statistically but managed the game well and narrowly missed on two potentially big throws.

“I think he will be better from the standpoint of A, conditioning, and then B, the fact that now he’s been in there and gone through it and got on a nice run, a nice stride, in terms of his flow of the game,” Cable said. `Now he’ll be able to relax and go play.

He didn’t have specifics on Zach Miller, other than that he’d been cleared to practice and was was limited.

– Those who didn’t pracitce included RB Justin Fargas (knee), WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (foot), WR-KR Nick Miller (tibia), QB Bruce Gradkowski (knees), TE Brandon Myers (concussion) and DE Greg Ellis (knee). Those who were limited included Miller, G Cooper Carlisle (knee) and CB Chris Johnson (ankle).

– The first thing Richard Seymour saw was Denver wide receiver Brandon Marshall , “who said, “Oh, wow.”

Then he saw linemate Tommy Kelly, having lost his uniform pants near the goal line.

“I looked, and they were around his ankles,” Seymour said.

Jay Richardson wasn’t in the game, but had even a better view _ although it was one he would rather forget.

“I looked up at the Jumbotron and saw his big rear-end,” Richardson said. “He’s famous.”

Richardson said teammates were finding Youtube videos of the play as they boarded the team flight home.
 

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I DISAGREE. I SAY KEEP CABLE. HE HAS THIS TEAM FIGHTING. HIS RESOLVE AND FOCUS IN THE MIDST OF ALL THE MEDIA ASSASSINATING HIS CHARACTER WAS REALLY REMARKABLE. EARLIER IN THE SEASON, I AGREED WITH YOU, JACK. BUT CABLE HAS WON ME OVER. I LISTEN TO CABLE EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT ON SIRIUS NFL RADIO. THIS GUY GETS IT. HE IS A FOOTBALL GUY. 100% THROUGH AND THROUGH. HE LOVES THE RAIDERS. HE'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SMART TOO.

THIS TEAM BELIEVES IN HIM. THEY PLAY HARD FOR HIM. HE SINGLEHANDEDLY RESURRECTED THE CAREERS OF ROBERT GALLERY, MICHAEL HUFF. THAT WAS ALL CABLE. ALSO, HE WORKS WELL WITH AL. SOMETHING WHICH NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO SINCE GRUDEN/ALLEN. AL RESPECTS HIS INPUT AND HE KNOWS WHEN TO STAND UP TO AL FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES.

MOST OF ALL, WHAT THE RAIDERS NEED IS CONTINUITY. TO PUT ANOTHER COACH IN, SO THE ENTIRE TEAM CAN LEARN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM, WOULD KEEP US A LOSING FRANCHISE. CABLE NEEDS MORE TIME. HE CAN MAKE THIS TEAM GOOD, AS WE'VE SEEN THIS SEASON WHEN WE BEAT PLAYOFF TEAMS. WE NEED TO KEEP CABLE!!! IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO HIRE A GOOD OC THAT CAN ASSUME PLAYCALLING DUTIES AND MAYBE OPEN UP THE PLAYBOOK A BIT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, NOT A NEW HEAD COACH.
CHUUUCH!!
 

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by real coach I mean someone who has good standing as a coach in the nfl. Someone who will make changes and do things the way they need to be done whether or not Al agrees.
Cmon nr....How long have you been a raider fan.......??? Al Davis runs this organization...
 

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Raiders lay down gauntlet to Cribbs

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders punter Shane Lechler watched film of Cleveland’s Josh Cribbs and made the following assessment:

“I’m pretty sure he’s the best we’ve faced _ ever _ in my 10 years here.”

The last time Cribbs faced the Raiders, he returned a kickoff 99 yards for a touchdown with the Browns trailing 16-0, with Cleveland climbing back into the game and losing 26-24 when Tommy Kelly blocked a field goal in the final seconds.

Two more came last week against the Chiefs, with returns of 100 and 103 yards for touchdowns contributing to a 41-34 win.

Cribbs, in his fifth year out of Kent State, has eight kickoff returns for touchowns plus a pair of scores on punts. He’s averaging 27.8 yards per kickoff return this season and 13.3 yards on punts with one touchdown. In his spare time, he lines up as a wide receiver, wildcat quarterback and plays on coverage units.

Lechler, however, has no plans to avoid Cribbs. Mindful of how the Raiders shut down an equally hot returner in Week 10 of the 2007 season in Chicago’s Devin Hester, he’ll kick it deep and trust his teammates to cover.

Hester finished his day in Oakland with six punt returns for 14 yards and a pair of kickoff returns for 34, the bright spot in a 17-6 loss to the Bears.

So the Raiders have no plans to back down and kick for the sideline.

“We’re going to do exactly what we did to Hester, what we did to Dante Hall four years ago when he was at Kansas City,” Lechler said. “ When you do that, it goes to show that you don’t trust your guys. I’m willing to put my guys up against anybody. I like my guys. My punt team is outstanding, they play their butt off every Sunday.”

Said Isaiah Ekejiuba: “Shane is not a directional punter. He’s going to let the ball go, and we’re going to go down and cover the way we need to cover.”

And this from Sam Williams: “On special teams, we’re not afraid of any challenge, we don’t back down, we kick to anybody, we have the best kicker in the league and we feel like we have one of the best cover teams in the league.”

Cribbs, talking to Bay Area writers by conference call, was happy to hear the news.

“If that’s true, then they’ve got egos and we’ve got to prove it to them like we’ve got to prove it to everybody else,” Cribbs said.

Cribbs patterned his game after former Redskins return specialist Brian Mitchell, who finished his career with an NFL record 13 special teams touchdowns. Lechler said Cribbs is the most fearless punt return specialist in the game, noting an absurdly low total of three fair catches.

“I love it when (the other team) is in my face because that means once I get past the first window, the first couple of guys, then I’m out in the open,” Cribbs said. “You know, get past that first wave, chances are really high for me to take it to the end zone.”

In terms of style, Cribbs, 6-foot-1 and 215 pounds, is nothing like Hester (5-foot-11, 190) and more like Mitchell, who was 5-11, 221. He’s bigger than Hester, not as fast, but more physical and excels in bad weather.

“He’s doing now is what Devin Hester did a couple years ago, but in a very different way,” Ekejiuba said. “He has great vision. He sees where the holes are, it’s like he guesses where the holes are and he hits them before they even form. That’s what makes him so good.

“He gets to places where a lot of returners can’t do, and he breaks a lot of tackles.”

More to come . . .
I would of thought, the best way to take out these super returners like Cribbs, would be to punt the ball out of bounds as close to the goal line as possible. Why do teams keep giving them opportunities to make massive plays?
 
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I would of thought, the best way to take out these super returners like Cribbs, would be to punt the ball out of bounds as close to the goal line as possible. Why do teams keep giving them opportunities to make massive plays?
i guess its not as easy as it sounds to kick it out of bounds exactly were u want .

we aint all aussie's

i know u fellas grow up kick soccer balls and rugby balls out the womb and shit
 
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Raiders FB Lawton suspended four games for violating drug policy

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NEW YORK -- The NFL gave Oakland Raiders fullback Luke Lawton a four-game suspension for violating the league's drug policy.

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Lawton, who played in 13 games with three starts this season, will miss the Raiders' final two games this season and lose nearly $63,000 in pay. A free agent next year, Lawton also would have to sit out the first two games of the 2010 regular season with whatever team he signs.

The NFL sent out a two-paragraph statement Thursday announcing the suspension. Raiders coach Tom Cable wasn't available for comment.

Lawton signed with the Raiders as a free agent in August 2008. He also has played for the New York Jets and Indianapolis Colts in his four-year NFL career.


looks like russell will be getting more playing time and maybe finally stop returning kicks
 

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frye knows his shit.

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 24th, 2009 at 2:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes from the Raiders’ open locker room session and press briefing with coach Tom Cable:

– It took a day for the Raiders’ 20-19 win over Denver to sink in for quarterback Charlie Frye. Former teammate Andra Davis saw to that with a sack that gave the Raiders quarterback a concussion.

“It’s scary just to feel like that. You’re really not into what’s going on,” Frye said. “That’s why it was so interesting watching the film the next day of how we won the game. It was pretty cool to see how that unfolded, for me really for the first time.”

Clear-headed and cleared to play, Frye looks forward to a homecoming against the team that cup him after the first game of the 2007 season, benching him in favor of Derek Anderson. Frye went to college at Akron, his family lives two hours away and his sister is getting married in the area Saturday.

“I had to get 30 tickets,” Frye said. “It’s a chance for the family to come, friends, those type of things, and those things are special because who knows if I’ll ever get back there to play another game.”

Frye was the first player to start at quarterback for a season opener and be with another team the next, traded for a sixth-round draft pick to Seattle. Former G.M. Phil Savage made note of Frye’s propensity for taking sacks as one of the reasons for the move.

Since then, Frye was drilled by Mike Holmgren in Seattle and Paul Hackett in Oakland, both proponents of an offensive system which minimizes sacks and stresses getting the ball out quickly to receivers. He was hit against Denver, but not sacked.

“I really didn’t comprehend how this position is supposed to be played until I got to Seattle,” Frye said. “You always wonder, ‘Well, what if I had known that when I was playing in Cleveland? Would that have made a difference?’ And the longer you’re playing the more you understand.

“I talk to Cabes a lot (about) what he’s trying to get done. One of the big deals last week is they feed off sacks, Denver did. We didn’t want them to get rolling, momentum and stuff, so I threw a lot of balls away. That hurts the old percentage, but it’s bigger than that. That was our rival game. We had to win that game. That’s part of knowing the game.”

– With Luke Lawton suspended and Oren O’Neal on I.R., the Raiders find themselves with 220-pound Gary Russell as their lone fullback. They possibly could pick up Marcel Reece from the practice squad, although Reece’s strength has been receiving moreso than blocking.

– Although Zack Miller has been cleared to practice, he needs to pass one more test to play against the Browns.

“I think it’s called a post-accident concussion test,” Miller said. “It’s the same test I’ve taken four times already. I’m really close. I’ve been practicing, feeling fine practicing, so everything looks good.”

If Miller does not pass, Tony Stewart would be the lone healthy tight end, with Brandon Myers still not cleared to practice following his concussion. Guard-tackle Erik Pears played tight end against Denver _ and was a benefit to a season-best 241 rushing yard rushing performance.

Considering the weather in Cleveland could be in the 20s or 30s with snow and/or high wind, it could be a fullback/tight end kind of game.

– Running back Justin Fargas missed practice for the second straight day, meaning Michael Bush, coming off a 133-yard, 18-carry game against Denver, could get a lot of work. He’ll trade the wind and cold for the altitutde of Denver any day.

“I grew up playing in cold weather like that in Kentucky,” Bush said. “To me the altitude was a big deal. I hadn’t had much practice at it and it was a whole different beast. I kind of got used to it in the second half.”

– Those who did not practice Thursday included DE Greg Ellis (knee), WR Darrius Heyward-Bey (foot), WR-KR Nick Miller (tibia), quarterback Bruce Gradkowski (knees), Fargas and Myers (concussion). Players who were limited were G Cooper Carlisle, CB Chris Johnson and Zach Miller.

– Gradkowski is holding out hope he could play in the season finale against Balitmore.

“It’s crazy how much better you can feel in a week. I feel a lot better. Not as good as I want right now. The doctors are kind of surprised how fast I’m moving along,” Gradkowski said. “I’m not where I need to be to play just yet, but I’m getting there . . . next week’s a definite possibility. Once the trainers really give me the OK to really push it outside, then I’ll try that.

“It would be a lot easier if it was one knee. If it was one knee, I’d brace it up . . . it just stinks we only had three games left.”
 

Meta4iCAL

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fuck Charlie Onion Ring is starting again they should throw in Losman. No one is worse than Charlie Onion Ring...
Frye didn't do that bad

he was running for his life most of the game

he was able to avoid sacks... rather than Russell sitting there like a statue

Frye >>>> Russell

and people think starting Losman is a great idea... but this guy just joined the team less than 2 weeks ago... he probably hardly knows the offense... it would be dumb to start him
 

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another thing about frye. is that he'd been playing with the practice squad all year. although he knew the offense, he really only had one week of practice with the starters. I think he'll have a good game against the browns.