SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS ON FIRE!
- Thread starter TONE DOG THE 01
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First of all, Russ Ortiz was not the most consistant pitcher in the Giants rotation last year (I can show you with last year and this year's numbers), it was and still is Jason Schmidt. Just this year, Schmidt has started in 2 less games then Ortiz, yet has 54 more strikeouts and 20 less walks? Schmidt has an ERA of 2.43 compared to Ortiz' ERA of 3.56. Schmidt just completed his 3rd shutout of the year throwing a 3 hit complete game shutout against the red hot dodgers, let me add that Ortiz has thrown one shutout in his 5 year career. Schmidt throws harder, strikes out more batters, walks less batters, and wins just as many games, not to mention ranks in the top 5 in major pitching catagories. Batters are hitting .198 against Schmidt and .222 against Ortiz... I can go on forever, so someone elaborate on how you think Ortiz is in any way better then Jason Schmidt. Lets not worry about how the pitchers were fairing 5 years ago, lets talk about last year and the current season because thats what matters. I have trouble finding a single catagory that Ortiz has out-pitched Schmidt in... it's no contest in my eyes.
I will say the Ortiz is a pretty solid pitcher, I would love to have kept him on the Giants. The main reason we let him go was money, but we also took a gamble. By letting him go we welcomed some new young hopefulls to take the mound, which if they played better then expected, would prove to be a much better choice then to keep Ortiz, its not turing out as good as we had hoped, but it could be much worse.
All im saying, is watch Schmidt, because he is probably the most under0rated pitcher in the major's. Mark my words.
I will say the Ortiz is a pretty solid pitcher, I would love to have kept him on the Giants. The main reason we let him go was money, but we also took a gamble. By letting him go we welcomed some new young hopefulls to take the mound, which if they played better then expected, would prove to be a much better choice then to keep Ortiz, its not turing out as good as we had hoped, but it could be much worse.
All im saying, is watch Schmidt, because he is probably the most under0rated pitcher in the major's. Mark my words.
yes, because with durham picked off at first there would have been three outs before the home run was hit, which means Dodgers would have won 1-0! which means that yes schmidt would have and should have gotten the loss.
i mean remember O. Perez (Dodgers) was 1-hitting them (Giants) when they called that pick-off a balk.
i mean remember O. Perez (Dodgers) was 1-hitting them (Giants) when they called that pick-off a balk.
Let's remember, this was in the 6th inning. If you want to talk about chance, then you have to assume that the Giants might have scored another run seeing as how the rest of the game would have been completely different because Grissom would have batted first in the next inning, changes everything.
Lets say Perez did NOT balk, and the Giants DIDN'T score another run, and Schmidt did get the loss. That really doesnt change a thing because he still pitched one hell of a game and had 0 ER 0 BB on 4hits. Run support plays a major factor in win/loss columns, but it is all on the pitcher to strike out, walk, and control the opposing runs earned.
Lets say Perez did NOT balk, and the Giants DIDN'T score another run, and Schmidt did get the loss. That really doesnt change a thing because he still pitched one hell of a game and had 0 ER 0 BB on 4hits. Run support plays a major factor in win/loss columns, but it is all on the pitcher to strike out, walk, and control the opposing runs earned.
Good god, you weren't joking. They are second to last in runs to the Tigers of all teams, not beating them by to much either. Lackey just shut them out tonight allowing 0 ER. It kind of takes away from Schmidt's last 2 performances against them, but they are suffering indeed. Who the fuck is on the DL, or are they just not playing well? I think they have enough pitching to shop around one of them for a good hitter, but then again, with their poor offense they still battle for first place with their outstanding pitching, maybe they should just leave it. What do you think?