Al Davis' letter to Lane Kiffin- Sept. 12, 2008
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@Tony...
ur an idiot...just stop saying ur a raider fan....
regardless of what AD says...its about the players...
they genuinely liked him...and were playing hard 4 him..
although the raiders r 1-3....they have looked the best since the past 5 or so years..
@ solitary 1...
KIFFIN TRIED TO VOICE HIS OPINION...al davis didn't give a shit about what he wanted....
al davis is SIMPLY the problem...
ur an idiot...just stop saying ur a raider fan....
regardless of what AD says...its about the players...
they genuinely liked him...and were playing hard 4 him..
although the raiders r 1-3....they have looked the best since the past 5 or so years..
@ solitary 1...
KIFFIN TRIED TO VOICE HIS OPINION...al davis didn't give a shit about what he wanted....
al davis is SIMPLY the problem...
If you're going to address something or someone, be a man and do it.
You're the only dillusional idiot on here that can't seem to comprehend that this is a trend of Al Davis'. This isn't anything new. He's done things similar to this in the past. He isn't content on just being an owner; he wants to, no, he needs to, be a GM, scout, and coach. He doesn't want a head coach; he wants a 'Yes-Man'...he wants someone in the position that's going to make him look good, so he can take the credit, but when things aren't great, he'll leave you high and dry and fire you.
If this was an isolated incident, I'd probably be behind Al. He once was a great owner, a great mind, a great member of the NFL. Now, other owners hate him, ex-players hate him, ex-coaches hate him, fans hate him...why is it that so many people hate the guy? I'll tell you why. As a fan of an NFL franchise, you want to have a winning team. You want to be able to brag and boast about your team, shit talk to someone about their team. You want to feel proud to wear a jersey or hat of that team. But as a Raiders fan, you can't. Oh sure, we could for 1 week this season, after the Chiefs game. But with the product that HE put on the field, that HE has on the sideline, we're not fully equipped to be contenders. Our offensive line needs addressing, we have no wide recievers, and we could use a veteran QB to come in and guide and mentor Jamarcus. Instead, let's give Javon Walker Randy Moss money, and pay Deangelo Hall like he's a proven all-pro talent. Throw Jamarcus to the wolves. You bitch and complain and cry about Kiffen's ''prevent offense''...to 'prevent' something means that you are keeping it from happening...Jamarcus cannot make anything happen with linemen and ends and linebackers running freely in the backfield after him, and recievers who are dropping balls like they're afraid of them. You expect Lane to have confidence in him, but that's impossible since he hasn't been able to prove anything yet. We have a solid running game; that's our offense. We don't have a passing game. So why should we force it? Why should we force the issue? We need to establish the passing game, but we can't expect Jamarcus to throw the ball 40 times a game to recievers who aren't open while he's on the run. He'll have 4-5 picks a game.
But that's right, TONY, you're the expert who'll demolish me on Madden, who's schooling chumps on a daily, who's the GURU (sorry, Czar lol!) @ football. You know the history. You're the only one who knows what's best for the team, and EVERYONE else is wrong. How could WE know anything? We're just fans; you're the expert.
It's one thing to be a fan of a team, TONY; it's another thing to have a love and passion for your team. You can put up any stats or articles or links you want, but being a fan for 2 years after following Aaron Brooks of all people to the Raiders, and only being stuck on the team because Aaron couldn't find work elsewhere, I think you should look into the history of Al Davis' business dealings and look at his track record, and you'll see a pattern of lies, cheating, and disloyalty. Al wants everyone to be loyal to him, but he's the most disloyal and dishonest owner in the league.
You're the only dillusional idiot on here that can't seem to comprehend that this is a trend of Al Davis'. This isn't anything new. He's done things similar to this in the past. He isn't content on just being an owner; he wants to, no, he needs to, be a GM, scout, and coach. He doesn't want a head coach; he wants a 'Yes-Man'...he wants someone in the position that's going to make him look good, so he can take the credit, but when things aren't great, he'll leave you high and dry and fire you.
If this was an isolated incident, I'd probably be behind Al. He once was a great owner, a great mind, a great member of the NFL. Now, other owners hate him, ex-players hate him, ex-coaches hate him, fans hate him...why is it that so many people hate the guy? I'll tell you why. As a fan of an NFL franchise, you want to have a winning team. You want to be able to brag and boast about your team, shit talk to someone about their team. You want to feel proud to wear a jersey or hat of that team. But as a Raiders fan, you can't. Oh sure, we could for 1 week this season, after the Chiefs game. But with the product that HE put on the field, that HE has on the sideline, we're not fully equipped to be contenders. Our offensive line needs addressing, we have no wide recievers, and we could use a veteran QB to come in and guide and mentor Jamarcus. Instead, let's give Javon Walker Randy Moss money, and pay Deangelo Hall like he's a proven all-pro talent. Throw Jamarcus to the wolves. You bitch and complain and cry about Kiffen's ''prevent offense''...to 'prevent' something means that you are keeping it from happening...Jamarcus cannot make anything happen with linemen and ends and linebackers running freely in the backfield after him, and recievers who are dropping balls like they're afraid of them. You expect Lane to have confidence in him, but that's impossible since he hasn't been able to prove anything yet. We have a solid running game; that's our offense. We don't have a passing game. So why should we force it? Why should we force the issue? We need to establish the passing game, but we can't expect Jamarcus to throw the ball 40 times a game to recievers who aren't open while he's on the run. He'll have 4-5 picks a game.
But that's right, TONY, you're the expert who'll demolish me on Madden, who's schooling chumps on a daily, who's the GURU (sorry, Czar lol!) @ football. You know the history. You're the only one who knows what's best for the team, and EVERYONE else is wrong. How could WE know anything? We're just fans; you're the expert.
It's one thing to be a fan of a team, TONY; it's another thing to have a love and passion for your team. You can put up any stats or articles or links you want, but being a fan for 2 years after following Aaron Brooks of all people to the Raiders, and only being stuck on the team because Aaron couldn't find work elsewhere, I think you should look into the history of Al Davis' business dealings and look at his track record, and you'll see a pattern of lies, cheating, and disloyalty. Al wants everyone to be loyal to him, but he's the most disloyal and dishonest owner in the league.
that Kirk Morrison interview it links to sums it all up
he said the all wanted to play for Lane, Lane changed the culture of the team, and he says now it's tough because its almost like they have to start over again
fuck Al if he doesn't get along with Lane... Al doesn't get along with hardly anybody unless they suck his fuckin dick
He had a good relationship with the players and had good chemistry going on in the locker room... Lane didn't fuck that chemistry up... Al did!
he said the all wanted to play for Lane, Lane changed the culture of the team, and he says now it's tough because its almost like they have to start over again
fuck Al if he doesn't get along with Lane... Al doesn't get along with hardly anybody unless they suck his fuckin dick
He had a good relationship with the players and had good chemistry going on in the locker room... Lane didn't fuck that chemistry up... Al did!
YOU don't belong in Raiders threads, but since no one cares to post about the Saints or Aaron Brooks, I guess you're stuck here.
If Lane didn't want to be here, it was because of the bullshit Al does with coaches. He wanted some control over the team. What coach wouldn't? What coach doesn't want to have the final say on the field? He's the HEAD COACH for a reason.
I read Solitary's post, and agree, to the most part. But AL is the cancer of the Raiders; I just wish he'd die of it sooner than later.
If Lane didn't want to be here, it was because of the bullshit Al does with coaches. He wanted some control over the team. What coach wouldn't? What coach doesn't want to have the final say on the field? He's the HEAD COACH for a reason.
I read Solitary's post, and agree, to the most part. But AL is the cancer of the Raiders; I just wish he'd die of it sooner than later.
I don't care what you hoes have to say! You suckaz can keep bringing up Brooks/Saints all you want but I am Raider fan at the end of the day. Fake fan, bandwagon fan, etc.... I am still a fan you hoes! I am my own man and I do what I feel. If you don't like it well then screw you! You squarez ain't Al Davis and the Raiders ain't yo team.
Now back to the subject. It is what it is... seems like Kiffin wanted more than just head coaching duties. Just look at what the contract said when he signed it "Further, your contract is quite clear that you work "subject to the direction and supervision of the General Partner" and that the General Partner has "the exclusive right to do all things, which in its sole discretion are necessary to maintain and improve the Club, the football organization and their activities." Did you all not see this? Kiffin signed the contract!
Kiffin wanted to run that cover-2 defense and look what happened on Monday night when Denver lit us up but then he lies and blames Rob Ryan and Al and makes them the fall guys. Only a punk would do that! We don't have the personnel to run a cover-2 scheme. Kiffin had a hand in bringing in free agents (Javon Walker, D.Hall) and then talks about how he doesn't have the talent to win... WTF? Kiffin was part of the recruiting process... I guess y'all didn't read the letter or you just don't believe what Al is saying. What NFL coaches you know only throws the ball 3 times in one half of football, goes for 70+ yard field goals and leaves timeouts on the clock?
Now back to the subject. It is what it is... seems like Kiffin wanted more than just head coaching duties. Just look at what the contract said when he signed it "Further, your contract is quite clear that you work "subject to the direction and supervision of the General Partner" and that the General Partner has "the exclusive right to do all things, which in its sole discretion are necessary to maintain and improve the Club, the football organization and their activities." Did you all not see this? Kiffin signed the contract!
Kiffin wanted to run that cover-2 defense and look what happened on Monday night when Denver lit us up but then he lies and blames Rob Ryan and Al and makes them the fall guys. Only a punk would do that! We don't have the personnel to run a cover-2 scheme. Kiffin had a hand in bringing in free agents (Javon Walker, D.Hall) and then talks about how he doesn't have the talent to win... WTF? Kiffin was part of the recruiting process... I guess y'all didn't read the letter or you just don't believe what Al is saying. What NFL coaches you know only throws the ball 3 times in one half of football, goes for 70+ yard field goals and leaves timeouts on the clock?
Wow... they're doggin the old guy and he gave them a chance when everyone thought they were washed up. Gannon was a career back-up with K.C. and Minnesota. Sapp got ousted from TB from John Gruden for "Booger McFarland"! LOL...
I am not saying Al is an angel but this bashing is crazy. Yes he made mistakes but what owner hasn't?
I am not saying Al is an angel but this bashing is crazy. Yes he made mistakes but what owner hasn't?
When you have the players on the coaches side you shouldnt have a arguement...
your pretty blind to the state of the raiders franchise....
they are NO where near how good you seem to think they are...
is that a problem with you? you cant accept the fact that the raiders are just not that good of a football team?...
your pretty blind to the state of the raiders franchise....
they are NO where near how good you seem to think they are...
is that a problem with you? you cant accept the fact that the raiders are just not that good of a football team?...
To be honest, I agree with Al Davis. I think the Raiders are good football team right now and I believe they can compete with any team in the league. All it's going to take is a confident head coach who believes in this team. "The Raiders are just not that good of a football team" is your opinion and you're entitled to it. I don't agree with you though.