YOUR WAR ON TERRORISM

HERESY · Feb 13, 2003

@916

its obvious that you didnt. if you did i would not have to correct you over and over.

i have NEVER blasphemed against the RAUCH. go to the local church. you will find your answer. better yet......nah...nevermind. go to the church nearest you.

ARE YOU INSANE???? THIS IS MORE *PROOF* OF YOU NOT READING THE POSTS. WHAT I POSTED ABOUT GOD BEING JEALOUS WAS TAKEN FORM THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IT HAS *NOTHING* TO DO WITH HEBREW SERVENTS! ROFL!!! in chapter 11 of exodus you have the 10 commandments. in chapter 12 you have the JUDGEMENTS and this is NOT the same as the ten commandments. THANKS FOR NOT READING. REGARDLESS OF IF IT *DID* HAVE ANYTHIGN TO DO WITH A HEBREW SERVENT (IN WHICH CASE IT CLEARLY DOESNT) WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH GOD DESCRIBING HIMSELF AS JEALOUS?

ALL WAS PERFECT AND GOOD. MAN WAS SINLESS. HE CHOSE TO REBEL. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL NOT SIN. GOD DID NOT GIVE US SIN. SIN IS NOT IN HIS LIKENESS.

I DONT FEEL OTHERWISE. WHAY DID JESUS SAY THE GREATEST LOVE WAS?

MAN IM SHAKING MY HEAD......THIS IS THE KIND OF DOCTRINE OF DEVILS THAT CORRUPTS THE SOUL. DID JESUS KNOW HE WOULD BE TRADED ON AND CRUCIFIED? YES. HOW DID HE FEEL WHEN HE KNEW TEH TIME WAS NEAR? DID HE PRAY THREE TIMES FOR IT TO ***NOT*** HAPPEN OR DID HE JUST HAPPILY SAY "HEAR I AM JUDAS TURN ME OVER" LOL!

DID GOD KNOW OF ADAMS SIN BEFORE HE DID IT? YES. DID HE KNOW OF YOUR MOTHERS SIN BEFORE SHE DID IT? YOU BET. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BEING ANGRY? GOD IS NOT ANGRY AT ALL TIMES. IF YOU ARE IMPLYING THIS YOU ARE WARPED. HAS GOD BEEN WITH ISRAEL ALL THE TIME? NO! HAS HIS WRATH BEEN AGAINST ISRAEL? YES.

THE FALL OF ADAM. HE KNEW ABOUT THATA ND ALLOWED IT. THE CRUCIFIXTION OF YESHUA HE KNEW ABOUT THAT AND ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. DAVID HAVING THE HITTITE MURDERED WAS KNOWN IN ADVANCED. HOW IS IT THAT ACCORDING TO ME GOD IS ETERNALLY ANGRY? LMAO!!! DONT MAKE MY WORDS OUT TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT. GOD WILL DO AS HE WILL DO.

ASK GOD WHY. DONT ASK ME. I DIDNT CREATE MAN. HE DID. IF YOU ARE DOUBTING THAT HE WAS REMORSEFUL I SUGGEST YOU READ THE BOOK OF GENESIS JUST BEFORE THE FLOOD.

1.THE ****STUDYING**** OF THE GREEK AND HEBREW LANGUAGES (IN REGARDS TO THE SCRIPTURES) WILL SHOW YOU ***EXACTLY*** WHAT IS **LITERAL** AND WHAT ***ISNT***.

IF GOD SAYING THAT HE IS JEALOUS IS *NOT* TO BE TAKEN LITERAL PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IT MEANS.

2.WHY NOT TAKE SOMETHING LITERALLY IF I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE WORDS AND MEANING DENOTE IT????

3.HOW WOULD *YOU* KNOW WHAT TEACHINGS ARE GOOD TO ME OR NOT IF YOU HAVE NOT STUDIED THE TEACHINGS *IN DEPTH*???

4.MANY THINGS IN THE BIBLE ARE *NOT* LITERAL. SPEAKING IN THE ***FIRST PERSON*** AND GIVING A COMMANDMENT IS ***LITERAL***.

SINCE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS I HAVE SEVERAL FOR YOU.

1.IF GOD SAYING THAT HE IS A JEALOUS GOD IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN AS. KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN HE SAID THIS HE WAS GIVING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. SOMETHING THAT HE WANTED THE PEOPLE TO TAKE LITTERALLY....SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN IN STONE.

2.IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES OR THE LANGUAGE THEY ARE WRITTEN IN HOW CAN YOU SAY WHAT IS LITERAL AND WHAT ISNT?! HERE I'LL HELP YOU OUT.

qina,qanna, qanno, zeloo AND parazeloo.

GOOD LUCK.

3.IF GOD IS NOT ANGRY OR CANNOT GET ANGRY EXPLAIN THE FOLLOWING:

Ps.30:5 "For his anger endureth but a moment."

Jer.3:12 "I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever." (GOD SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON TO JEREMIAH)

4.IF GOD IS NOT ANGRY OR CANNOT BECOME ANGRY EXPLAIN NUMBERS 11:1-3. EXPLAIN HOW THIS ***LITERAL*** EVENT OF GOD SHOWING HIS ANGER AND PEOPLE DYING IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN.

:classic: :classic: MORE MOVIE LOGIC. INSTEAD OF USING MOVIES AND YOUR OWN DOCTRINE/DOGMA TO EXPLAIN YOUR VIEWS WHY DONT YOU USE THE SCRIPTURES...IF YOU FEEL ITS NOT LITERAL EXPLAIN IT.
PLEASE ANSWER QUESTIONS 1-4. I'M VERY EAGER TO READ YOUR RESPONSE.

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."~YESHUA BEN YOSEF

THATS THE ONLY PATH BUT I REMEMBER IN ANOTHER THREAD THAT *YOU* TOLD ME TO GO ANOTHER WAY.......

:h:

"You are righteous, O Lord.., Because You have judged these things. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and You have given them blood to drink. For it is their just due." (Rev 16:6)

EXCUSE ALL TYPOS.

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 13, 2003

@H

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"its obvious that you didnt. if you did i would not have to correct you over and over."

Its obvious that i do not always speak within the context of your beliefs either. You have yet to "correct" me...
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"i have NEVER blasphemed against the RAUCH. go to the local church. you will find your answer. better yet......nah...nevermind. go to the church nearest you."

I really wasn't trying to imply that you have blasphemed against Rauch. You do not need to give an example based on your personal experience, just make up an example. I AM interested in talking about this...
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"ARE YOU INSANE???? THIS IS MORE *PROOF* OF YOU NOT READING THE POSTS. WHAT I POSTED ABOUT GOD BEING JEALOUS WAS TAKEN FORM THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IT HAS *NOTHING* TO DO WITH HEBREW SERVENTS! ROFL!!! in chapter 11 of exodus you have the 10 commandments. in chapter 12 you have the JUDGEMENTS and this is NOT the same as the ten commandments. THANKS FOR NOT READING. REGARDLESS OF IF IT *DID* HAVE ANYTHIGN TO DO WITH A HEBREW SERVENT (IN WHICH CASE IT CLEARLY DOESNT) WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH GOD DESCRIBING HIMSELF AS JEALOUS?"

I am sorry you fail to see the connection. I was making a point about how that which was written in the bible was done regarding the times and also regarding time itself. I *always* read your posts. Otherwise I do not respond to them. Or I only respond to that which I feel inclined to ( and I will quote what it is I am responding to)...
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"ALL WAS PERFECT AND GOOD. MAN WAS SINLESS. HE CHOSE TO REBEL. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL NOT SIN. GOD DID NOT GIVE US SIN. SIN IS NOT IN HIS LIKENESS."

Of course.
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"MAN IM SHAKING MY HEAD......THIS IS THE KIND OF DOCTRINE OF DEVILS THAT CORRUPTS THE SOUL. DID JESUS KNOW HE WOULD BE TRADED ON AND CRUCIFIED? YES. HOW DID HE FEEL WHEN HE KNEW TEH TIME WAS NEAR? DID HE PRAY THREE TIMES FOR IT TO ***NOT*** HAPPEN OR DID HE JUST HAPPILY SAY "HEAR I AM JUDAS TURN ME OVER" LOL!"

I did not say that you would not be angry at all when your friend betrays you on 17Jun2011. But it would be much less. Jesus was of God, but not God Himself. Jesus was not the Father. God (The Father) is eternal. If God knows the things to pass, then how can any man righteously say that God gets angry? And once again, is He eternally angry? If these abominations did not happen according to God, (which is ridiculous, but just for the sake of argument), would God then be angry that He was wrong? God being angry is biblical man's interpretation of God. Anger is a crutch. God is omnipotent and does not need crutches.
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"DID GOD KNOW OF ADAMS SIN BEFORE HE DID IT? YES. DID HE KNOW OF YOUR MOTHERS SIN BEFORE SHE DID IT? YOU BET. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BEING ANGRY? GOD IS NOT ANGRY AT ALL TIMES. IF YOU ARE IMPLYING THIS YOU ARE WARPED. HAS GOD BEEN WITH ISRAEL ALL THE TIME? NO! HAS HIS WRATH BEEN AGAINST ISRAEL? YES."

Heresy, if God knew of these things for eternity, at which time did God "decide" to get angry?? Or is God above time? Wait, yea He is!...
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"THE FALL OF ADAM. HE KNEW ABOUT THATA ND ALLOWED IT. THE CRUCIFIXTION OF YESHUA HE KNEW ABOUT THAT AND ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. DAVID HAVING THE HITTITE MURDERED WAS KNOWN IN ADVANCED. HOW IS IT THAT ACCORDING TO ME GOD IS ETERNALLY ANGRY? LMAO!!! DONT MAKE MY WORDS OUT TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT. GOD WILL DO AS HE WILL DO"

He knew about it because it was a reality. It was a part of His reality in creation. He knew it would come to pass before He even created it! If Heresy had eternity to prepare for his friend betraying him, would he be able to handle it without anger? yes.
Also, you are implying that God set Himself up for anger. The analogy with Jesus does not work because Jesus did not set himself up to be crucified. God set Jesus up to be crucified...
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"ASK GOD WHY. DONT ASK ME. I DIDNT CREATE MAN. HE DID. IF YOU ARE DOUBTING THAT HE WAS REMORSEFUL I SUGGEST YOU READ THE BOOK OF GENESIS JUST BEFORE THE FLOOD."

It was more comprehensive to the children of God (at those times) to perceive God as being remorseful.
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"1.IF GOD SAYING THAT HE IS A JEALOUS GOD IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN AS. KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN HE SAID THIS HE WAS GIVING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. SOMETHING THAT HE WANTED THE PEOPLE TO TAKE LITTERALLY....SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN IN STONE."

Simply. There are levels of understanding God. If you speak Hebrew, God will speak to you in that way. If you speak German, God will speak to you that way. Just the same, God speaks to people of the times according to how the people think, their language, etc.. He keeps it relative to their way of life so it may be understood on a PERSONAL level.
A parent will tell a child not to do something and the child may ask why not. The parent will often say, "because I said so." Once the child is ready to understand the deeper meaning behind his/her parents reasoning, they will understand "why not". God laid down His commandments because people were without order and at this time needed to be simply told what to do.
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"2.IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES OR THE LANGUAGE THEY ARE WRITTEN IN HOW CAN YOU SAY WHAT IS LITERAL AND WHAT ISNT?! HERE I'LL HELP YOU OUT."

I never said what WAS or WASN'T literal, in particular. Much of it is LITERAL, regarding the people of those times. But if you cannot see it beyond its literal meaning then whatever. I know better than the child, I understand "why" or "why not". I understand it WITHIN ITS CONTEXT... The context is people, time, language, way of life, etc...
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"Ps.30:5 "For his anger endureth but a moment."

remember the context.
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"Jer.3:12 "I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever." (GOD SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON TO JEREMIAH)"

remember the context. Actually, you wrote it:
"(GOD SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON TO JEREMIAH)"
So, who is Jeremiah? In what times did he live? What was his language, way of life, etc...?
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"MORE MOVIE LOGIC. INSTEAD OF USING MOVIES AND YOUR OWN DOCTRINE/DOGMA TO EXPLAIN YOUR VIEWS WHY DONT YOU USE THE SCRIPTURES...IF YOU FEEL ITS NOT LITERAL EXPLAIN IT."

It is a great quote, be it from a movie or not. I have clarified the "literal" debate. Perhaps that wasn't the best term to use alone. So I attempted to clarify what it is I am saying. A lot of it IS literal, but according to ITS context. Just because it is literal does not mean it cannot be looked deeper into...
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""I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."~YESHUA BEN YOSEF"

ok.
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"THATS THE ONLY PATH BUT I REMEMBER IN ANOTHER THREAD THAT *YOU* TOLD ME TO GO ANOTHER WAY......."

show me where I "told you to go another way". Perhaps this was just something you perceived. But it was not intended...

HERESY · Feb 13, 2003

if you say so.

see my previous answer.

in some cases yes (THINGS WERE WRITTEN IN REGARDS TO PEOPLE OF THAT TIME)however the giving of the ten commandments and what YOU listed were two SEPERATE events and laws. i dont see the connection.

if you know this why ask me?

listen. GOD is a TITLE. not a "NAME" as soon as you realize this the better you will be. is JESUS "GOD" (AS IN HOLDING THE TITLE OF GOD)? YES!!! PLEASE TURN TO JOHN 1:1-17. PAY ATTENTION TO THE FIRST VERSE AND 14.

NO ONE HAS IMPLIED THAT HE IS YHWH. HOWEVER YESHUA HIMSELF IS ETERNAL. PAY ATTENTION TO JOHN 1:1-14(ESPECIALLY VERSE 1).

I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. NO HE IS *NOT* ETERNALLY ANGRY. HOW CAN ANY MAN RIGHTEOUSLY SAY THAT GOD GETS ANGRY? WELL THE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHY DOES *GOD* HIMSELF SAY HE IS ANGRY?

HOW COULD GOD BE WRONG??

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THIS IS THE "BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION" WHEN GOD HIMSELF SAID IT AND USED IT TO DESCRIBE HIMSELF? so why dont you explain what god being angry really means?

"In your anger do not sin. Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry." (Ephesians 4:26) ANGER IS A GOD GIVEN EMOTION.

SEE THE ABOVE.

GOD IS ABOVE TIME YET GOD *OPERATES* IN *OUR* TIME AND OUTSIDE OF IT. A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE 70 WEEKS OF DANIEL. WHEN DID GOD GET ANGRY? WHEN THE ACTUAL EVENT TOOK PLACE. SEE THE EXAMPLES I GAVE YOU.

I AGREE 100%.

916 *YOU* DONT KNOW *ME*. I MAY BE THE MOST UNFORGIVING PERSON IN THE WORLD. YOU DONT KNOW *HOW* I WOULD HANDLE THE SITUATION. FOR *YOU* TO SAY WHAT I WOULD OR WOULDNT DO OR HOW I WOULD HANDLE SOMETHING IS FOOLISHNESS. ITS RETARDED ACTUALLY.

WELL YOU JUST GOT INTO IT. SO I CAN SHOW MY FRIEND LOVE AND FORGIVE HIM....OR I CAN PUNISH MY FRIEND.....

YET GOD IS SAYING *HE* IS REMORSEFUL....HE IS SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON. SINCE IT WAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR GOD TO SAY THAT HE IS REMORSEFUL I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE REALLY MEANT.

I AGREE WITH THIS. HOWEVER WHEN IT COMES TO THE SCRIPTURES, WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN AND HOW WORDS WERE USED BY THE PEOPLE OF *THAT* TIME. YOU CANT CONSULT THE GERMAN VERSION OF THE BIBLE. YOU *MUST* USE THE *HEBREW* AND *GREEK* VERSIONS. WHY? THIS IS WHAT THE SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN IN. THEY DO *NOT* CONTAIN THE SAME WORDS AS A "GERMAN" BIBLE. IN FACT HEBREW ISNT EVEN READ THE SAME WAS AS OTHER LANGUAGES. ITS READ FROM RIGHT TO LEFT. THE WORD PLAY,THE NOUNS,PRO NOUNS,VERBS ADJECTIVES. ALL OF THAT IS *DIFFERENT*. NOT ONLY THAT BUT WORDS *CHANGE* OVER TIME. SO IN ORDER FOR ONE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ONE MUST CONSULT THE *ORIGINAL*. ONE WORD MAY HAVE A CERTAIN MEANING DURING A CERTAIN PART OF HEBREW HISTORY YET A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING IN ANOTHER PART.

SEE THE ABOVE.

SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT GOD MEANT WHEN *HE* CALLED *HIMSELF* JEALOUS AND ANGRY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

SEE THE ABOVE.

I DIDNT SAY YOU DID.

I AGREE HOWEVER A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH *US*. ONCE AGAIN HOW CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS LITERAL OR WHAT ISNT WHEN YOU HAVENT STUDIED THE SCRIPTURES IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THEY ARE WRITTEN IN? DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORD PLAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS *DIFFERENT* THAN WHAT YOU READ IN ENGLISH? DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WORDS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS? THAT SOME WORDS ARE MASCULINE WHILE OTHERS ARE FEMININE?

HOW ARE *YOU* ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU HAVE *NO* KNOWLEDGE OF THE LANGUAGE THE SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN IN,NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANCIENT ISRAEL,TORAH,JEWISH CULTURE OR BELIEFS?!?

SEE THE ABOVE.

I HAVE TWO PARTS TO YOUR QUESTION. 1. SEE THE ABOVE. 2.THESE ARE *GODS* WORDS DESCRIBING *HIMSELF* NOT *MAN* DESCRIBING GOD.

IM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. IN FACT BEACUSE I HAD A YEARNING TO LOOK DEEPER I STUDIED SEVERAL LANGUAGES. HEBREW,GREEK,LATIN AND A TAD OF ARABIC. WHAT STEPS DID *YOU* DO TO TAKE IT FURTHER AND SEE IF IT WAS DEEPER?

PEEP THE HELL THREAD MAN. YOU SPECIFIACLLY TOLD ME TO GO ANOTHER WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID. JUST PEEP THAT THREAD. IT SEEMS THAT YOU LIKE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN A HAPHAZARD SORT OF WAY.

YOUR ANSWER TO #1 HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL QUESTION. IN YOUR ANSWER YOU SAID THAT A DEEPER MEANING MAY BE BEHIND IT. I ASK YOU AGAIN "1.IF GOD SAYING THAT HE IS A JEALOUS GOD IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN AS.

YOU EITHER WILL EXPLAIN WHAT THIS MEANS OR YOU WILL NOT EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS. IF YOU CANT EXPLAIN IT HOW DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAS A DEEPER MEANING? OH WAIT..HE KEEPS IT RELATIVE SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL......YET HE WANTED PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OVER 400 YEARS *AFTER* THEY WERE GIVEN?LMAO!

YOUR ANSWER TO #2 LEAVES MUCH TO BE DESIRED. YOU SAY YOU UNDERSTAND WHY OR WHY NOT (WITHIN ITS CONTEXT) YET YOU DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND HEBREW CULTURE AND WAY OF LIFE.

The context is people, time, language, way of life, etc...

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IF THATS THE CASE THE QUESTION STILL STANDS. IF YOU HAVE KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF IT HOW CAN YOU DETERMINE WHATS LITERAL OR NOT? IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE HOW CAN YOU SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THEM?

YOUR ANSWER TO #3 IS SHEER IDIOCY.

remember the context.

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THE QUESTION STILL STANDS. IF GOD DOES NOT AND CANNOT GET ANGRY EXPLAIN WHAT TEH VERSE MEANS. JUST DONT SAY "REMEMBER THE CONTEXT".

YOUR ANSWER FOR QUESTION #4....?!? WHERE IS YOUR ANSWER FOR #4? WHY IS IT THAT YOU DIDNT ANSWER THIS QUESTION? YOU ANSWERED THE OTHERS BUT DIDNT ANSWER THIS. EITHER YOU DONT KNOW OR YOU DIDNT READ THE POST.

4.IF GOD IS NOT ANGRY OR CANNOT BECOME ANGRY EXPLAIN NUMBERS 11:1-3. EXPLAIN HOW THIS ***LITERAL*** EVENT OF GOD SHOWING HIS ANGER AND PEOPLE DYING IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN.

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IN THIS CASE IF HIS ANGER IS *NOT* LITERAL THESE PEOPLE DID *NOT* DIE A LITERAL DEATH AND THE EVENT ***NEVER*** HAPPENED.......

EXCUSE ALL TYPOS.

:h:

MAY GOD BURN HER WITH FIRE AND BRIMESTONE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB AND THE THRONES.

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 14, 2003

@H

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"listen. GOD is a TITLE. not a "NAME" as soon as you realize this the better you will be. is JESUS "GOD" (AS IN HOLDING THE TITLE OF GOD)? YES!!! PLEASE TURN TO JOHN 1:1-17. PAY ATTENTION TO THE FIRST VERSE AND 14."

Ok. Thats great. And by saying God I mean God The Father. Sorry I didn't clarify that. Jesus is divine but he is not God the Father...
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"NO ONE HAS IMPLIED THAT HE IS YHWH. HOWEVER YESHUA HIMSELF IS ETERNAL. PAY ATTENTION TO JOHN 1:1-14(ESPECIALLY VERSE 1)."

We are all eternal. But God (The Father) is eternally self realized. Jesus was born into the flesh to *become* a fully spiritually realized being.
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"I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. NO HE IS *NOT* ETERNALLY ANGRY. HOW CAN ANY MAN RIGHTEOUSLY SAY THAT GOD GETS ANGRY? WELL THE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHY DOES *GOD* HIMSELF SAY HE IS ANGRY?"

Why do parents tell their children, "because I said so."?
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"HOW COULD GOD BE WRONG??"

This is why I wrote: (This is ridiculous. But just for the sake of argument.) Also, how did God feel (according to the bible) when he felt he had made a *mistake* creating man?
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"HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THIS IS THE "BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION" WHEN GOD HIMSELF SAID IT AND USED IT TO DESCRIBE HIMSELF? so why dont you explain what god being angry really means?"

Explain what, "Do it because I said so", means...
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"GOD IS ABOVE TIME YET GOD *OPERATES* IN *OUR* TIME AND OUTSIDE OF IT. A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE 70 WEEKS OF DANIEL. WHEN DID GOD GET ANGRY? WHEN THE ACTUAL EVENT TOOK PLACE. SEE THE EXAMPLES I GAVE YOU."

But God is *not* limited by time. So given that God does operate within time as well as without, why would He get angry? Why would God (The Father) put Himself in that position when He knows the way it shall come to be? its like Heresy knowing that a meteor is going to land on a specific spot here on earth, (assuming that Heresy does not wish to die), and standing right there. God (The Father) "getting angry" is an approach at getting a point across to humans, esp. humans of those times.
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"916 *YOU* DONT KNOW *ME*. I MAY BE THE MOST UNFORGIVING PERSON IN THE WORLD. YOU DONT KNOW *HOW* I WOULD HANDLE THE SITUATION. FOR *YOU* TO SAY WHAT I WOULD OR WOULDNT DO OR HOW I WOULD HANDLE SOMETHING IS FOOLISHNESS. ITS RETARDED ACTUALLY."

your humanly personality traits are skin deep. They are not absolute. One day you could be very unforgiving, the next day you could be very forgiving. We are not bound by our personality traits. It does not matter what you *seem* to be, this is an illusion. If you were an eternally realized being, (basically saying if you were God), you would have complete peace within yourself. You would know all that which man shall do against himself and his divine nature. Sorry, no room for anger...
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"WELL YOU JUST GOT INTO IT. SO I CAN SHOW MY FRIEND LOVE AND FORGIVE HIM....OR I CAN PUNISH MY FRIEND....."

Or... you can eternally love and allow your friend to find this love. It would be your friend's ignorance of your eternal love that leads him into what you call "punishment". There is a law of God that if one does not flow with its nature they will suffer to that particular degree. It will seem as if they are being "punished". Meanwhile God (The Father) remains full of eternal love.
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I'll get the rest, shortly...

HERESY · Feb 14, 2003

i did not say he was god the father nor did i imply that. why are you telling me this?

read the scriptures i gave you. jesus coexisted with the father BEFORE he was given a body of flesh. when i give you scriptures to read do you read them?

i dont know what your parents told you. my parents always told me WHY.

why are you implying that its a MISTAKE? what he makes is what he makes. you want to trap me up. you need to stop.

this is an example of a dancing fool. heres the original question:

im asking you to explain what god being angry really means. the question is *RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES*. look man do YOU read the posts or what? teh question was self explanitory and very basic. where do you get "do it because i say so"???? LMAO!!!!!!

who said he was?

because of SIN. ***IF*** YOU WOULD READ ***ALL*** OF THE EXAMPLES I GAVE YOU (ESPECIALLY THE BOOK OF AMOS) YOU WOULD SEE THAT.

what happened when god revealed himself to moses at the burning bush and moses tried to worm his way out of the task? when you find that out your question will be answered.

same thing with jesus. he knew he was going to die. he went through with it. you have no point.

SO EXPLAIN WHAT POINT HE IS TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO HUMANS! I HAVE ASKED YOU THIS OVER AND OVER! WHAT IS HE TRYING TO CONVEY TO THE HUMANS? WHATS THE POINT?

YOU ARE THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE OF USELESS INFORMATION.

where is this law of god found in the bible? please show it to me.

LMAO!!!!!!

you have done NOTHING but go around in circles.
you FAIL to answer questions.
you mention things that are not RELEVENT.
you fail to use the bible to back YOUR claims.

what you DO is come with your *OWN* logic.
what you DO is show that you know NOTHING about the people of THAT time.

what you DO is show that you know NOTHING about YHWH.

what a dancer.....dance for me.....

:H:

Blight · Feb 14, 2003

^^^Damn thats a long post.

HEY! I used a lot of those pics for my last distribution operation. I bet i made a lot of people sick. Hopefully it helps the cause.

:B:

HERESY · Feb 14, 2003

^^^^ do you have any copies or versions of what you made that you can send em via email? if you do i will download it,print them out and pass them around in berkeley.

:H:

ps can we please get back to the war on terrorism?

Blight · Feb 14, 2003

Lol, yeah.

I dont have any copies tho, i did it at school and erased it when i was done. You know... maybe i should put the siccness addy on there too.

I know something tho... imma make a post about it, see if you can add any locations to it, youll see what i mean.

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 14, 2003

@H (continued...)

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"YET GOD IS SAYING *HE* IS REMORSEFUL....HE IS SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON. SINCE IT WAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR GOD TO SAY THAT HE IS REMORSEFUL I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE REALLY MEANT."

Now I refer to... knowing the path and walking the path. To say that God(The Father) is remorseful is to say that He makes mistakes. Did God make a mistake by creating man? If so, why did He do it? He **knew** it was going to be a mistake. Everything that God will's to be done IS done. It may be said that God is remorseful because it is this which will lead His children on a path to understanding their nature in relation to God. Once again, knowing and walking?...
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"SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT GOD MEANT WHEN *HE* CALLED *HIMSELF* JEALOUS AND ANGRY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW."

see above. And always... remember the context.
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"HOW ARE *YOU* ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU HAVE *NO* KNOWLEDGE OF THE LANGUAGE THE SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN IN,NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANCIENT ISRAEL,TORAH,JEWISH CULTURE OR BELIEFS?!?

Because I understand certain spiritual truths and I can apply them to my life and the things I read. I do not just believe everything I read, but I can find different teachings' place in truth. Some truths are more relative than others. The relative truths are often pathways to a more absolute realization. Whether or not I have such an extensive knowledge of Hebrew, Torah, Israel, etc, as you do, makes little difference. I guarantee that once I have come to understand these things better, the fundamental truths will not perish. They fit into everything. In my paragraph you responded to in this quote, I wrote "I understand it within its context", and this is universal. I was not claiming that I had an extensive knowledge on the language, people, etc. Nor do I need one to realize this. I will realize this long after I do have such a knowledge. And it will be applied...
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"2.THESE ARE *GODS* WORDS DESCRIBING *HIMSELF* NOT *MAN* DESCRIBING GOD."

These are God's words describing Himself...
***in a way that this man,(Jeremiah), can identify with***
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"IM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. IN FACT BEACUSE I HAD A YEARNING TO LOOK DEEPER I STUDIED SEVERAL LANGUAGES. HEBREW,GREEK,LATIN AND A TAD OF ARABIC. WHAT STEPS DID *YOU* DO TO TAKE IT FURTHER AND SEE IF IT WAS DEEPER?"

I plan on doing this just as you had planned on it. I do not know Hebrew, Greek, Latin or Arabic. Also...
1. I never proclaimed anything in particular to be deeper.

2. I do not need to "see" IF it is deeper, I see THAT it is deeper.

3. number 2 is universally applied. I see the true "depth" within any teaching. I can apply it, (the teaching), unto the level of truth that it is. And sometimes I can extend it to further levels of truth...
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The rest of your post has been answered multiple times...

HERESY · Feb 14, 2003

1.remorse can be a feeling for YOUR mistakes. when innocents are murdered do you feel remorse? do you feel for them?

2.once again i ask you the question:YET GOD IS SAYING *HE* IS REMORSEFUL....HE IS SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON. SINCE IT WAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR GOD TO SAY THAT HE IS REMORSEFUL I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE REALLY MEANT.

either you dotn understand what speaking in first person means or you dont know the answer. explain to me what GOD meant when he said he was remorseful. what you typed has little to do with the question.

once again dancing around questions. STOP SAYING THINGS AND NOT BACKING THEM UP. EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT GOD MEANT WHEN HE SAID HE WAS JEALOUS AND ANGRY? IN WHAT CONTEXT IS HE SAYING THIS? YOUR "SEE ABOVE" DOES NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

LISTEN. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND GUITAR CHORDS,CHORD PROGRESSIONS,PORTAMENTO AND LEGGATO DOES THAT MEAN I CAN PICK UP A TRUMPET AND START PLAYING? NO IT DOESNT. I CAN APPLY NOTES TO THAT TRUMPET BECAUSE A NOTE IS A NOTE. HOWEVER IF I HAVE *NO* KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO HOLD A TRUMPET OR WHAT TYPES OF BREATHS TO TAKE HOW WILL MY KNOWLEDGE OF MUSIC BE OF VALUE?

MORE USELESS INFORMATION.

NO COMPARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO MINE MAKES NO DIFFERENCE HOWEVER IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT THATS WHAT COUNTS. HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THERMODYNAMICS IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN CHEMISTRY AND THE WAY CHEMICLES REACT TO ONE ANOTHER IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN KANJI IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THESE THINGS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE? WHAT IM TRYING TO TELL YOU (WHAT YOU KEEP TRYING TO AVOID) IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND *WHAT* WORDS ARE USED AND *HOW* THEY ARE USED IS *VERY* IMPORTANT.

HERE. IS THIS A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT?:

JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON A CROSS

JESUS WAS HUNG ON A TREE

BOTH ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS.

IN ORDER FOR ***YOU*** TO MAKE A CLAIM OF WHAT IS OR WHAT ISNT YOU *MUST* HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT. IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE QU'RAN,MECCA,THE KABBAH STONE OR THE FIVE PILLARS HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN ISLAM? YOU CANT.

IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THOSE DAYS (IN REGARDS TO BIBLICAL TIMES), HOW THE LANGUAGE WAS STRUCTURED,HOW THEY USED WORDS,WHAT CULTURE THEY HAD ETC ETC ETC YOU ***CANNOT*** TELL ME OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT ***THEM*** AND THATS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.

YOU ARE TRYING TO LIMIT THE PEOPLE AND SAY THEY DIDNT UNDERSTAND SO GOD TOLD THEM IN A WAY SO THEY COULD UNDERSTAND. HOW DO *YOU* KNOW WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND IF *YOU* DONT UNDERSTAND *THEM*? IS THIS HARD FOR YOU TO GRASP? YOU HAVE NO GROUNDS TO YOUR CLAIM. NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS VALID.YOU KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT.

THE REASON WHY I SAY *YOU* NEED TO LEARN THE LANGUAGES IS SO THAT *YOU* CAN SEE WHAT IS TO BE TAKEN LITERAL AND WHAT IS FIGURATIVE. WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORDPLAY ITS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCERN WHAT IS WHAT.

SO EXPLAIN WHAT GOD ***REALLY*** MEANT!HOW CAN YOU LOGICALLY SAY THAT GOD MEANT IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY FOR JEREMIAH WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM?

YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO SEE IF THE MEANINGS ARE DEEPER YET YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE MEANINGS ARE DEEPER OR COULD BE DEEPER.....LMAO!!!

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 14, 2003

@H

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"i did not say he was god the father nor did i imply that. why are you telling me this?"

Well, it was YOU who went off on "God" being a title. Then saying that Jesus was God. SO I CLARIFIED THAT WHEN I SAY "GOD" I MEAN "GOD THE FATHER". Wow, its almost fuccin ridiculous how much I have to over explain myself....LMAO
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"read the scriptures i gave you. jesus coexisted with the father BEFORE he was given a body of flesh. when i give you scriptures to read do you read them?"

I know this. Either you didn't read what I typed regarding this or you misinterpreted it...
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"i dont know what your parents told you. my parents always told me WHY."

great, you must feel blessed. It was an example, I am sure you have at least heard of it happening...
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"why are you implying that its a MISTAKE? what he makes is what he makes. you want to trap me up. you need to stop."

What He makes is what He makes. Why would he feel remorse over something He created unless He felt it was a *mistake*??
Do you feel trapped? Only YOU will trap yourself.
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"this is an example of a dancing fool. heres the original question:"

LOL...
once again, YOU FAIL TO SEE THE CONNECTION. So be it...
I can't feed your ass, but I have put the food in front of you...
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"im asking you to explain what god being angry really means. the question is *RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES*. look man do YOU read the posts or what? teh question was self explanitory and very basic. where do you get "do it because i say so"???? LMAO!!!!!!"

answer why parents *may* tell their child, "do it because I said so", and you shall have your answer to this question...
I just put the first bite of food in your spoon...
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"who said he was?"

No one. I was merely making a statement...
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"because of SIN. ***IF*** YOU WOULD READ ***ALL*** OF THE EXAMPLES I GAVE YOU (ESPECIALLY THE BOOK OF AMOS) YOU WOULD SEE THAT."

Nevertheless, God knows of all sin before it happens. Are these examples going to teach me that God *does not* know of all sins to be commited?? If it doesn't state that then its null and void to what I am saying...
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"what happened when god revealed himself to moses at the burning bush and moses tried to worm his way out of the task? when you find that out your question will be answered."

The answer is simply: God (YHWH) does not set Himself up for anger...
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"same thing with jesus. he knew he was going to die. he went through with it. you have no point."

Yes, but Jesus was put on that path by YHWH. YHWH set Himself up for all these sins that are commited by man. YHWH does not pray three times hoping that YHWH would not be sinned against. LOL...
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"SO EXPLAIN WHAT POINT HE IS TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO HUMANS! I HAVE ASKED YOU THIS OVER AND OVER! WHAT IS HE TRYING TO CONVEY TO THE HUMANS? WHATS THE POINT?"

TO KNOW OR TO WALK THE PATH...
Why must I keep answering the same things? Here's another matrix quote for you:
"I can only show you the door. You must walk through it."
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"YOU ARE THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE OF USELESS INFORMATION."

I am not a source. If you are looking for a source, look to God.
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"where is this law of god found in the bible? please show it to me."

You have quoted the bible, not I.
I am not limited to its literary. Why should I have to show you where it is in the bible? Did I ever say it was in the bible?
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"you have done NOTHING but go around in circles."

You keep missing the point, resulting in the same questions being asked of me. You have been an intricate part of this circle...
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"you FAIL to answer questions."

you FAIL to see answers.
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"you mention things that are not RELEVENT."

You fail to see the relevence.
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"you fail to use the bible to back YOUR claims."

Just as I fail to use the vedas or the koran to back my "claims". What is your point?
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"what you DO is come with your *OWN* logic."

If you say so...
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"what you DO is show that you know NOTHING about the people of THAT time."

Never said I did...
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"what you DO is show that you know NOTHING about YHWH."

I haven't done my Heresy impression yet...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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"what a dancer.....dance for me....."

In your dreams, you pervert.

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 14, 2003

@H

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"1.remorse can be a feeling for YOUR mistakes. when innocents are murdered do you feel remorse? do you feel for them?"

Remorse isn't the best word. How about compassion? Yeah, compassion is better...
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"2.once again i ask you the question:YET GOD IS SAYING *HE* IS REMORSEFUL....HE IS SPEAKING IN FIRST PERSON. SINCE IT WAS MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR GOD TO SAY THAT HE IS REMORSEFUL I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE REALLY MEANT."

Once again, I cannot feed you. Also, refer to the second "matrix" quote, lol. (this answer applies to most of your post... so apply it)
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"LISTEN. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND GUITAR CHORDS,CHORD PROGRESSIONS,PORTAMENTO AND LEGGATO DOES THAT MEAN I CAN PICK UP A TRUMPET AND START PLAYING? NO IT DOESNT. I CAN APPLY NOTES TO THAT TRUMPET BECAUSE A NOTE IS A NOTE. HOWEVER IF I HAVE *NO* KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO HOLD A TRUMPET OR WHAT TYPES OF BREATHS TO TAKE HOW WILL MY KNOWLEDGE OF MUSIC BE OF VALUE?"

If you are referring to knowledge versus experience...
well, I have both. But I can not *give* you MY experiences. That second "matrix" quote would fit really well here too...
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"MORE USELESS INFORMATION."

It is useless to the one who does not know how to apply it.
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"NO COMPARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE TO MINE MAKES NO DIFFERENCE HOWEVER IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT THATS WHAT COUNTS. HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THERMODYNAMICS IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN CHEMISTRY AND THE WAY CHEMICLES REACT TO ONE ANOTHER IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN KANJI IF I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT? HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THESE THINGS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"

I am not trying to explain thermodynamics, chemistry, kanji or the bible.
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"HERE. IS THIS A CONTRADICTORY STATEMENT?:

JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED ON A CROSS

JESUS WAS HUNG ON A TREE

BOTH ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS."

Do you not know what it means? Why ask me?
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"IN ORDER FOR ***YOU*** TO MAKE A CLAIM OF WHAT IS OR WHAT ISNT YOU *MUST* HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT. IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE QU'RAN,MECCA,THE KABBAH STONE OR THE FIVE PILLARS HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN ISLAM? YOU CANT.

IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THOSE DAYS (IN REGARDS TO BIBLICAL TIMES), HOW THE LANGUAGE WAS STRUCTURED,HOW THEY USED WORDS,WHAT CULTURE THEY HAD ETC ETC ETC YOU ***CANNOT*** TELL ME OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT ***THEM*** AND THATS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.

YOU ARE TRYING TO LIMIT THE PEOPLE AND SAY THEY DIDNT UNDERSTAND SO GOD TOLD THEM IN A WAY SO THEY COULD UNDERSTAND. HOW DO *YOU* KNOW WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND IF *YOU* DONT UNDERSTAND *THEM*? IS THIS HARD FOR YOU TO GRASP? YOU HAVE NO GROUNDS TO YOUR CLAIM. NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS VALID.YOU KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT.

THE REASON WHY I SAY *YOU* NEED TO LEARN THE LANGUAGES IS SO THAT *YOU* CAN SEE WHAT IS TO BE TAKEN LITERAL AND WHAT IS FIGURATIVE. WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORDPLAY ITS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DISCERN WHAT IS WHAT."

I am only suggesting something that will not completely disregard your beliefs. I could just say its all absolutely wrong. But, this would be ignorant. I am attempting to reconcile these differences. This is what will guide one to this path. This path I speak of is a path of further understanding. The goal to this path, obviously, is God. I do *not* need to understand the context to speak OF the context. I am NOT speaking WITHIN the context. It is your bible quotes, not mine. I am suggesting that there is fundamental truth beyond the surface of each excerpt you quoted. I never once claimed that I *knew* the context. Once again, it is your bible quotes. I know that God is not dual minded like us. So, I do not adhere to the idea of God being "angry". Not in an absolute perspective, at least. Yeah, if one is to deduce that Jesus is God, and Jesus gets angry then it makes sense. But, Jesus isn't The Father. The Father, YHWH, is absolute. And once again...
YHWH does not pray three times to YHWH so that man will not sin against YHWH...
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"SO EXPLAIN WHAT GOD ***REALLY*** MEANT!HOW CAN YOU LOGICALLY SAY THAT GOD MEANT IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY FOR JEREMIAH WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM?"

I never said I knew anything about Jeremiah. Thats not the point. You never met Jeremiah. You only know what it says about him in the bible. Is the bible the biography of Jeremiah? Does it encompass all that has to do with Jeremiah? How do you know what is truly in Jeremiah's heart?...
There is a difference between knowing the path and wa....
nevermind, you have heard this...
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"YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING TO SEE IF THE MEANINGS ARE DEEPER YET YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE MEANINGS ARE DEEPER OR COULD BE DEEPER.....LMAO!!!"

I am speaking of fundamental truth. Its there no matter what bible quote I am speaking of. Sometimes it is very easy to see, other times one must look deeper...
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"WHY IS IT THAT QUESTION NUMBER FOUR WAS NEVER ANSWERED? YOU HAVE MADE 3 OR 4 POSTS SINCE I ASKED IT YET YOU HAVENT ANSWERED IT. YOU DID A 1-3 BUT YOU MISSED THIS ONE. EITHER YOU DIDNT SEE IT (IN WHICH CASE YOU DONT READ THE POSTS) OR YOU DONT KNOW THE ANSWER. HERE IT IS AGAIN:"

You still do not get it. I did not quote number 4 because I have already answered it regarding other quotes on the same topic. Here's an analogy you might grasp:
Heresy asks me, "Why are there clouds?"
and I tell him about the whole precipitation/condensation thing.
Then later, he asks me, "where do the clouds come from?"
But, I do not quote this because I have answered it.
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"IN THIS CASE IF HIS ANGER IS *NOT* LITERAL THESE PEOPLE DID *NOT* DIE A LITERAL DEATH AND THE EVENT ***NEVER*** HAPPENED......."

how the fucc did you deduce all that? LOL...
His "anger" is known on a relative level, a human level. It was spoken to whomever in this particular manner because whomever was most likely... HUMAN. This does NOT imply that:
1. These people did not die; and
2. The event never happened
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"IF ITS NOT A LITERAL FORM OF ANGER EXPLAIN THE WORD ANGRY OR JEALOUS AS THEY ARE USED TO DESCRIBE GOD."

We had the "literal" debate, and then I typed the words:
"It may very well be literal, but literal in its context." I am not arguing with you the definition of the words "angry" or "jealous". They are used because there seems to be a difference in knowing and walking the path...
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"IS THIS LAW OF GOD FOUND IN THE BIBLE?"

I have already answered this...
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"THE ONLY THING YOUR HINTING AT IS JEALOUSY AND ANGER ARE NOT USED IN THAT CONTEXT BUT USED SO THE PEOPLE OF THAT TIME COULD UNDERSTAND. SO I CALL ON YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT GOD MEANS WHEN HE SAID HE IS ANGRY AND JEALOUS."

It is not to know. It is to WALK.
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"WHEN GOD SAID HE WAS ANGRY AND JEALOUS DOES THAT MEAN HE MEANT HE WANTED A BACON DOUBLE WITH CHEESE?"

I highly doubt it. A bacon double with cheese isnt a fundamental truth. (LOL) bacon double with cheese cannot be applied to spiritual knowledge...
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"WHEN GOD SAID HE WAS ANGRY DOES THAT MEAN HE HAS A LEXUS?"

God has many Lexus's. LMAO! This answer is similar to above... I will give you the liberty of applying it...
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"WHEN GOD SAID HE IS JEALOUS DOES THAT MEAN HE IS HIGH OFF SHERM?"

If God desired sherm and his creation would not grow it for Him, but grew it for Mr. Rogers, He might be jealous. LMAO! Of course, why would God desire anything?
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"YOU HAVE YET TO TELL ME IN WHAT CONTEXT THESE WORDS MEAN."

I am not speaking ABOUT the context. I am speaking OF the context. The context itself makes no difference to me. I did not quote the bible, you did. I am not saying what it IS or ISN'T. Keep what is on the surface of the teachings IN THE CONTEXT. When you look deeper you may extract fundamental truths...

HERESY · Feb 14, 2003

@ blight send me some of that via email. [email protected]

when i was out today i saw many flyers and what not that had to do with marches and the war. its going to be one in downtown vallejo and i think one in sac. i wont be able to go to either because i have to handle some business in oakland. i wish i could reschedule and go to one of these events.

@916 i know longer wish to have a discussion with you. i wont say why because its going to lead to more long posts and i dont have the energy to play any more. may JAH bless you and keep you.

back @ blight do you have a copy of the presidents speech or do you know where i can download that AND footage of the planes flying into the buildings (9-11)? hit me up if you have this info. oh and how do i put a pic in my profile? like the one you have? do i have to contact vamps or do i have to have someone host the pic for me? i have a pic i REALLY need to post up.

:H:

Blight · Feb 14, 2003

Do you mean a picture in my sig? Cause i checked the profile and couldnt find a picture. If you mean in the signature... first get the web adress of the picture, then put it in the signature input box as follows:

(Left bracket)(IMG)(Right bracket)(web adress of picture)(left bracket)(/)(IMG)(right bracket) no spaces in between parenthesees.

Im sorry if that looks too complicated, but still i think i had to explain it like that cause if i type the brackets then it wont show up.

ABOUT E-MAIL, ill get to ya on that like Monday, cause i have work and dates until then when i get to school. But i dont know how to send a picture really. Besides i need to find pictures that are higher resoluton. Ill let ya know what pics i have still.

TRANSCRIPT OF SOTUnion Adress

AND SOME OTHER STUFF:
If you can get this to work, it would be worth you while cause i think it was what my roomate downloaded. It was a re-worded copy of Bush's speech but his own words, re done in audio to make America sound as evil as it should. When he was saying were evil, it would show the people clapping, lmao. I think this is the link and then you pick the movie clip that works. But im not 100% sure.

n9newunsixx5150 · Feb 15, 2003

@H

very well...

and God bless you, my friend...

HERESY · Feb 15, 2003

@blight no i mean i want to add a pic to my sig (i guess thats what you were telling me). i dont have it on a web page. i have it as a jpeg.

lol@your second link. [email protected]

:H:

306 · Feb 17, 2003

Sad, but that's the way it is. As long as there are people on this Earth there will be other people there killing them.

YOUR WAR ON TERRORISM

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