YOUR WAR ON TERRORISM

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"IT WONT BE SHOCKING TO ME WHEN CALI IS HIT WITH SUITCASE NUKES. BIG DEAL."



WE'LL SEND YOU PICS OF AMERICA'S DEAD BABIES...

You attempt to manipulate people into your beliefs by linking pics of dead and deformed children and then you show no concern for those living here. What is your point? you do not care about these babies in Iraq, America or elsewhere. You are using their misfortune to delude people with your propaganda, feeding into your own self-righteousness. Whatever justifies it in your own mind. Let the people reading this know the truth about Heresy. A manipulator, and this is proof. You do not care about what happens to anyone. You only care about yourself...
 

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HAHAHAHAHA

AS IM SITTING AT MY PC AND READING AND REPLYING I AM CRACKING UP. SOME OF YOU ARE WARPED. YOU THINK IM WARPED????? WOW..LETS TAKE A LOOK PEOPLE. HERE WE GO:
WE'LL SEND YOU PICS OF AMERICA'S DEAD BABIES...
BETTER YET SEND ME JPEGS.
You attempt to manipulate people into your beliefs by linking pics of dead and deformed children and then you show no concern for those living here.
IM NOT MANIPULATING **ANYONE** TO HAHAHA MAN I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!! LMAO!!! OK PEEP. IM NOT IN MANIPULATING ****ANYONE**** INTO MY BELIEFS. THE ONLY THING I DID WAS SHOW PICS. NOTHING MORE. I DID NOT SAY FOR ANYONE TO SHARE MY VIEWS OR CONCEPTS.
What is your point?
THE POINT IS IS THAT AMERICA HAS NO POINT OR CASE IN A WAR ON "TERRORISM" WHEN AMERICA IS THE BIGGEST TERROSIST ORGANIZATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE POINT IS WE NEED TO SEE WHAT EFFECTS TEH WAR ON TERRORISM ARE HAVING ON OTHER PEOPLE.
you do not care about these babies in Iraq, America or elsewhere.
SO YOU KNOW WHATS IN MY HEART????? YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY RIGHT? YOU DONT KNOW IF IM EMPLOYED IN A SHELTER THAT TAKES CARE OF ORPHANS,YOU DONT KNOW IF I PARTAKE IN MISSIONARIES THAT GO TO IRAQ.....HOW CAN YOU MAKE THAT STATEMENT? YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME......WOW YOUR GOD. HEY GOD WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME???
You are using their misfortune to delude people with your propaganda, feeding into your own self-righteousness.
WHAT????????????? LMAO!!!!!!!! HOW AM I USING THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHERS TO DELUDE PEOPLE PEOPLE WITH MY PROPAGANDA? LISTEN BEFORE YOU EVEN CAME ON THIS BOARD I WAS ****EXTREMELY**** OUTSPOKEN AND VOCAL ABOUT AMERICA. YOU DONT KNOW ME. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS????? HAVE YOU READ MY ANSWER WHEN V ASKED ME HAVE I DONE ANYTHING DESERVING OF FIRE? LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YOU WANT ME TO FEEL REMORSE FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE (GOVERNMENT) WHO ARE BUTCHERING MY PEOPLE AND CONTINUE TO DO SO?????
YOU WANT ME TO FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE HYPOCRITES WHO SAY "IN GOD WE TRUST" YET HAVE NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM ON THAT SAME DOLLAR???????
Whatever justifies it in your own mind. Let the people reading this know the truth about Heresy.
LISTEN THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD KNOW ME. THEY HAVE PUT UP WITH ME FOR OVER A YEAR. GET USED TO IT.
A manipulator, and this is proof.
WHO HAVE I MANIPULATED????? WHO IS ***THAT*** WEAK MINDED TO LET MY WORDS DICTATE THEIR ACTIONS AND LIVES?????? I REPEAT WHO HAVE I MANIPULATED????? WHO IS ***THAT*** WEAK MINDED TO LET MY WORDS DICTATE THEIR ACTIONS AND LIVES??????
You do not care about what happens to anyone.
ONCE AGAIN YOU DONT KNOW ME.
You only care about yourself...
WOW!!!!!!!! YOU COME TO THIS ASSESSMENT BASED ON WHAT????


I THINK YOUR MAD BECAUSE I PULL YOUR CARDS ON THE THINGS YOU SAY......MAN IF THATS THE CASE LET IT GO. IF YOU DONT WANT ME TO QUESTION WHAT YOU TYPE DONT MAKE THINGS DIRECTED AT ME.

BY THE WAY IN ANOTHER THREAD YOU SAID MY THOUGHTS WERE "MATERIALISTIC". CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN THAT THREAD? HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUSION????


YOUR GONE MAN.

SEE YA LATER "TYLER":classic: :devious:


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WOULD THEY SAY THAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY? NOW IF AN IRAQI SAW ME SMASHING ON OTHER AMERICANS WHAT WOULD THEY SAY?
If you know about the extent to which fundamentalism reaches, then you would know the Muslims in this country are not exempt from the contempt held by extremists in the middle east.

The extremist groups cannot even be considered Muslims, and as far as they are concerned, any peaceful Muslim living in this country is an infidel and no different than you or I.

If an (extremist) Iraqi saw you smashing on other Americans what would he say? He would say "Hey infidel, thanks for the help, and when you are done, your head will be chopped off too."

THE IRAQIS DONT WANT ME DEAD. YOU MAYBE......BUT NOT ME.
LMAO! Set one foot in Iraq and let's see how long you keep deluding yourself.

You think because you dislike America that the Iraqi army would not squash your skull? Your head would be on a spear just as quick as any other "American's".
NOPE. AMERICA HAS.
And since you reside in AMERICA, the Iraqis who want to destroy America ALSO want to kill YOU.

You are not special in their eyes because of your dissent towards America. They laugh long and hard at Americans who attempt to sympathize with them.

THE SAME GROUNDS THAT GOD CONDEMNED SODOM. THE SAME GROUNDS THAT GOD USED WHEN HE CONDEMNED MANKIND BECAUSE OF THE SINS OF ADAM.
If ALL of mankind is condemned, why do you limit *your* damnation to America?

We are ALL sinners regardless of the country we live in, it is simply a matter of DEGREE. Since *you* are not God, who are you to decide which particular people should burn at the hands of God?

AMERICA WILL REAP WHAT SHE HAS SOWN. OUR POPULATION IS FILLED WITH IMMORAL PEOPLE. RAPE,DRUGS MURDER ETC ETC ETC.....IT ***NEEDS*** TO BE BURNED AND PURGED OF INIQUITY.
1. Unless you can point to a country on the globe which HAS NO immoral people and NONE of these problems, your damnation is meaningless.

2. "America" has not sown anything nor will SHE reap anything. "America" is nothing more than a name given to the land we stand upon. The land is not responsible for the actions of those who occupy it. It is the SINS OF MAN which are sown and reaped. Since all men are sinners, EVERY single country which is occupied by man ***NEEDS*** to be burned and purged of iniquity, and at the end of this universe it will be.

IRAQ CAME UNDER JUDGEMENT A LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME AGO. WHERE DO YOU THINK "BABYLON" IS??????????????? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANCIENT HISTORY? NO I DONT THINK IRAQ IS DESERVING OF FIRE.
Oh, so Iraq is now free to do as it pleases because it was "judged" LOOOOOOOOONG ago?!

They can gas their own people, invade and terrorize neighboring nations and somehow remain exempt from being burned by the fire of God? Iraq is not occupied by any sinners?

PS THESE ARE SIMPLY MY VIEWS. YOU PRAY YOU DONT INHALE TEH VAPORS FROM THE SUITCASE NUKES
I understand they are your views. That is self-evident. As far as me praying to not inhale nuke vapors, why would I?

I do not pray for protection from Iraqis or for the damnation of America. I only pray that I may fall at Krsna's lotus feet and serve Him life after life after life after life. Since there is no end to my existence, why should I pray or worry about something as insignificant as nuke vapors?

NO NATION ON THIS GLOBE HAS CAUSED MORE WAR,CHAOS HUNGER ETC ETC ETC THAN AMERICA. FROM THE MURDER OF THE NATIVES TO THE DESTRUCTION OF AFRICA.
The key word here is "more". We are *ALL* sinners. Every person on every continent is born into sin. Even the people of Africa and Iraq are guilty of sin. Your attempt to put America in a separate category is just more dualism. More/Less. Sin is simply a matter of degree, and since you are not the all-knowing and all-powerful Lord, *your* condemnation of any particular country because of its sins worthless.

WHO IS CASTING A STONE? I AM CASTING THE TRUTH. IF YOU ARE GOING TO QUOTE THE BIBLE QUOTE THE SCRIPTURES ABOUT JUDGING IN RIGHTESOUSNESS, TRUTH AND FAIRNESS.
I did not say you were casting a stone. The quote clearly explains that we are *ALL* sinners, therefore since you are a sinner, and you are attempting to point the finger at the sins of the American government, there is no VALUE in your damnation of America. It is meaningless.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

NO BUDDDY ITS NOT MY GOVERNMENT. :H: IS ON HIS WAY ****OUT**** OF AMERICA.
That's great. And whenever you GET to where you are GOING, *then* you can say that it is not YOUR government. As long as you remain here, it *IS* your government.

If you think that just because you have "disowned" the government in your mind that it no longer governs you, then you are NOT in a position to say "YOUR WAR ON TERRORISM" "YOUR GOVERNMENT" "YOUR COUNTRY", because the people you are assigning posession of the government to, can ALSO say that they do not accept it as "THEIR" government. And since you still reside here your point is rendered moot.

I MAY LIVE HERE BUT I DONT FEEL LIKE IM WANTED. NOR DO I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A SAY. I DONT FEEL AMERICAN. I DONT FEEL ALL PATRIOTIC.
And there are people in Iraq who are saying the same things about Iraq. The dictatorship in Iraq is NOT indicative of the sentiment of every person who LIVES there. Just like the government in the U.S. is NOT indicative of the sentiment of every person who lives here.

You don't "feel" American because you are NOT "American". You are spirit soul.

WHY SHOULD I? IT CAME AS NO SURPRISE TO ME THAT AMERICA WAS GOING TO GET ATTACKED. IT WONT BE SHOCKING TO ME WHEN CALI IS HIT WITH SUITCASE NUKES. BIG DEAL.
And it will come as no surprise to anyone when Iraq gets smashed on.

It isn't shocking to me to see images of deformed and disfigured babies in Afghanistan. Big deal.

IM NOT "AMERICAN". TO BE AMERICAN YOU HAVE TO "FEEL" AMERICAN. I DONT DESPISE MYSELF. I LOVE ME. IM MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD. IM A KING.
No. "Feeling" American is a misnomer.

What exactly are you a king of?

Is not every man made in the image of God?

IVE BEEN LABELD NIGGER,PORCH MONKEY AND SPEAR CHUCKER. OH WELL. IT DOESNT BOTHER ME. AT THE END OF THE DAY REALITY SETS IN AND ***I*** KNOW WHO I AM. DO **THEY** DIVIDE US ON THESE ISSUES (BLACK VS WHITE , DEMO VS REPUB)? YEP. I DONT BUT INTO IT.
Who is **THEY**??

You are wise if you understand that you are not "American", "African", or any of these material designations. The essence of our being lies beneath ALL layers of material elements.

But at the same time, you display ignorance by saying that all of "America" needs to be burned by God. On one hand you say that these divisive labels are not worth buying into, yet on the other hand you condemn a whole group of people BECAUSE of the label "America".

SPEAK THIS RHETORIC TO A MUSLIM IN IRAQ.
What is rhetorical about anything I said?

You are proving my point. An extremist will not listen to logic or reason. They will simply see that I am in America therefore I deserve to die. And you can be next to me preaching that you LOVE Iraq and you HATE America and guess what? You will be killed just like I will.
 
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you talking about brahman!?!?!?
Yes. The spirit within you, me, H, Saddam, 2-0-sixx, and EVERY LIVING ENTITY in existence is unchanging and eternal.

Since all living things have this eternal spiritual essence in common, a wise man is one who recognizes it and lives in accordance with it. A person who goes through life judging himself and others by outward bodily appearances and geographical locations, is certainly within their rights to do so, I am just saying that I see past these temporary material arrangements and find no value in demonizing either "America" or "Iraq" because the bottom line is we are ALL imperfect sinful creatures.
 
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@H

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"IM NOT MANIPULATING **ANYONE** TO HAHAHA MAN I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!! LMAO!!! OK PEEP. IM NOT IN MANIPULATING ****ANYONE**** INTO MY BELIEFS. THE ONLY THING I DID WAS SHOW PICS. NOTHING MORE. I DID NOT SAY FOR ANYONE TO SHARE MY VIEWS OR CONCEPTS."



BUT YOU ARE ONE-SIDED! I AM NOT SO DELUDED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE AREN'T ACTIONS THAT OUR COUNTRY ARE TAKING THAT LEAD TO THESE INNOCENT DEATHS. THERE ARE. THE NATURE OF THIS THREAD LOSES ITS CREDIBILITY ONCE YOU SPEAK OF AMERICA'S DESTRUCTION. YOU'RE ONE-SIDED! IF ITS FUCKED UP THEN ITS **ALL** FUCKED UP. FUCK JUST DESTROYING AMERICA THEN, DESTROY IT ALL! SAVE THE GOOD CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND LET THE AMERICAN CHILDREN BURN; THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
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"THE POINT IS IS THAT AMERICA HAS NO POINT OR CASE IN A WAR ON "TERRORISM" WHEN AMERICA IS THE BIGGEST TERROSIST ORGANIZATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE POINT IS WE NEED TO SEE WHAT EFFECTS TEH WAR ON TERRORISM ARE HAVING ON OTHER PEOPLE."



I AGREE THAT "AMERICA" HAS NO CASE IN A WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. AND THAT WE GET AWAY WITH A LOT OF FUCKED UP SHIT. BUT WHEN YOU USE PICS TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE THINGS BEING DONE BY SO CALLED "AMERICANS" WHICH LEAD TO THE DEATH OF INNOCENT CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK OF SUITCASE NUKES IN CALI; YOU ARE EITHER A MANIPULATOR, A HYPOCRITE, OR BOTH.
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"SO YOU KNOW WHATS IN MY HEART????? YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY RIGHT? YOU DONT KNOW IF IM EMPLOYED IN A SHELTER THAT TAKES CARE OF ORPHANS,YOU DONT KNOW IF I PARTAKE IN MISSIONARIES THAT GO TO IRAQ.....HOW CAN YOU MAKE THAT STATEMENT? YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME......WOW YOUR GOD. HEY GOD WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME???"



I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUITCASE NUKES OR IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT IS RIGHTEOUS TO BOMB AMERICA. BUT YOU SPEAK THESE WORDS. IF THEY ARE NOT WORDS TO BE CONSIDERED THEN **DON'T SPEAK THEM**. YOU WILL BE CALLED OUT ON THEM, AND THIS IS IT!
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"WHAT????????????? LMAO!!!!!!!! HOW AM I USING THE MISFORTUNE OF OTHERS TO DELUDE PEOPLE PEOPLE WITH MY PROPAGANDA? LISTEN BEFORE YOU EVEN CAME ON THIS BOARD I WAS ****EXTREMELY**** OUTSPOKEN AND VOCAL ABOUT AMERICA. YOU DONT KNOW ME. SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS????? HAVE YOU READ MY ANSWER WHEN V ASKED ME HAVE I DONE ANYTHING DESERVING OF FIRE? LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YOU WANT ME TO FEEL REMORSE FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE (GOVERNMENT) WHO ARE BUTCHERING MY PEOPLE AND CONTINUE TO DO SO?????
YOU WANT ME TO FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE HYPOCRITES WHO SAY "IN GOD WE TRUST" YET HAVE NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM ON THAT SAME DOLLAR???????"




I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE ARE MANY CASES OF HYPOCRISY IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THE WORLD. BUT YOUR WORD GOES OUT THE WINDOW WHEN YOU START A THREAD SHOWING "IRAQ'S" MISFORTUNE DUE TO "AMERICA" WITH WORDS LIKE, "LET GOD BURN HER WITH FIRE", AND THEN SPEAK AS IF WITH NO REGARD TO CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY. YOUR APPROACH TO YOUR POINT IS **TERRIBLE**. AND YES, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A POINT TO THE THREAD. BUT THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED IS RIDICULOUS. YOUR WHOLE STATE OF MIND HAS BEEN TO SHOW **ONLY** THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF AMERICA. NO ONE DESERVES TO BURN MORE THAN ANOTHER. WHEN YOU SINGLE OUT AMERICA YOU ARE WRONG, PERIOD.
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"I THINK YOUR MAD BECAUSE I PULL YOUR CARDS ON THE THINGS YOU SAY......MAN IF THATS THE CASE LET IT GO. IF YOU DONT WANT ME TO QUESTION WHAT YOU TYPE DONT MAKE THINGS DIRECTED AT ME."


YOU HAVE DONE NO SUCH THING. YOU ONLY **THINK** THAT YOU HAVE. I DIRECT THINGS TOWARD YOU SO THAT YOU **CAN** QUESTION ME...
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"BY THE WAY IN ANOTHER THREAD YOU SAID MY THOUGHTS WERE "MATERIALISTIC". CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN THAT THREAD? HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT CONCLUSION????"



THERE ARE MANY OCCASSIONS WHEN I DID NOT SPEAK ON THIS. MAYBE I SHALL SPEAK ON IT MORE IN THE FUTURE. VYASADEVA HAS BEEN "PULLING YOUR CARDS" ON THIS THREAD. YOUR THOUGHT IS BIASED AND IT WAS SHOWN IN YOUR POLL ON THE "IS GOD ON AMERICA'S SIDE" THREAD. THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY "MATERIALISTIC THOUGHT". YOU DO NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE. YOU DWELL ON THE PETTY MATERIAL THINGS. MY WORDS MEAN NOTHING TO YOU RIGHT NOW. JUST IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. I EXPECT NOTHING PRODUCTIVE FROM THIS RESPONSE. NEVERTHELESS THESE ARE MY WORDS AND YOU ASKED FOR THEM...
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"YOUR GONE MAN."



THIS REMINDS ME OF THE MENTALLY DISABLED KID CALLING ME STUPID FOR LOOKING AT HIM.
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"SEE YA LATER "TYLER"




JUST BECAUSE I QUOTED ONE THING FROM THAT MOVIE. HOW PATHETIC... NEXT!
 
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Vyasadeva said:

The "country" herself is not doing anything. Don't you see that SHE is simply a patch of land upon which particular INDIVIDUALS are carrying out acts of terrorism and warfare?! This applies to ANY country, not just America.
V,

You're missing what's important.
Sure we can blame politicians for these monstrosities, but what are the people doing?
Meaning us?
Most sick muthafuckas in this country eat Uncle Sam's lies and support this shit.
So we are to blame as well.
We let our government do this shit....

Cats like Nefar and Heresy are trying to change this shit.
I'm sure you appose what Sam is doing but it's just that Heresy has a different approach at this shit.
We as humans need to bring the people at the top down head first....
I know you agree with that.

This is bullshit man....
We need to reverse the game on Sam....
 

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PEOPLE LOOKING FOR ARGUEMENTS......1

you guys must hang on every whim and thought that :H: makes.....fair enough....lets get down to business.

@V you said the following:
If you know about the extent to which fundamentalism reaches, then you would know the Muslims in this country are not exempt from the contempt held by extremists in the middle east.
in other threads you stated that you did NOT read the quran and that you have NEVER read the quran. now you are telling me what MUSLIMS in THIS country or THAT country think? how can you explain islam to me when by YOUR own words you have never read the quran?
The extremist groups cannot even be considered Muslims, and as far as they are concerned, any peaceful Muslim living in this country is an infidel and no different than you or I.
see the above.
If an (extremist) Iraqi saw you smashing on other Americans what would he say? He would say "Hey infidel, thanks for the help, and when you are done, your head will be chopped off too."
see the above. where is YOUR knowledge of islam coming from? i can chop it up about the quran with THAPRO and SHOHEI BABA all day long. why? because I have read it. where are YOU getting your knowledge of the quran and islam? the television?
LMAO! Set one foot in Iraq and let's see how long you keep deluding yourself.
when its time i will and i know nothing will happen to me.
You think because you dislike America that the Iraqi army would not squash your skull? Your head would be on a spear just as quick as any other "American's".
HAHAHAHA i cracked up when i read that. remember the AMERICAN TALIBAN?
And since you reside in AMERICA, the Iraqis who want to destroy America ALSO want to kill YOU.
no they dont want me......white america/government. thats the main target.
You are not special in their eyes because of your dissent towards America. They laugh long and hard at Americans who attempt to sympathize with them.
you know this because of long hours of reading teh quran and speaking with muslims? or is was this knowledge gained by extensive use of a 19 inch television????
If ALL of mankind is condemned, why do you limit *your* damnation to America?
oh i dont. however in this case my words were SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED AT *AMERICA* AND THE *WAR ON TERRORISM*. THE WHOLE WORLD IS NOT INVOLVED WITH A *WAR ON TERRORISM*!
We are ALL sinners regardless of the country we live in, it is simply a matter of DEGREE. Since *you* are not God, who are you to decide which particular people should burn at the hands of God?
READ THE BOOK OF "AMOS". YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWER. HOWEVER IF YOU DONT READ THE BOOK I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS ANSWER. WHO IS AMERICA TO DECIDE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD LIVE?
1. Unless you can point to a country on the globe which HAS NO immoral people and NONE of these problems, your damnation is meaningless.
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO READ THE BOOK OF AMOS. IT DEALS WITH 8 NATIONS BEING JUDGED BY GOD FOR *CRIMES* AGAINST HUMANITY. WERE OTHER COUNTRIES DOING THINGS WRONG? YES BY ALL MEANS HOWEVER SOMETHING WAS *DIFFERENT* ABOUT THESE COUNTRIES. IM WRONG FOR SAYING GOD NEEDS TO JUDGE AMERICA AND THAT SHE SHOULD BE JUDGED BECAUSE OF HER INIQUITIES? LMAO!
2. "America" has not sown anything nor will SHE reap anything. "America" is nothing more than a name given to the land we stand upon. The land is not responsible for the actions of those who occupy it. It is the SINS OF MAN which are sown and reaped. Since all men are sinners, EVERY single country which is occupied by man *NEEDS* to be burned and purged of iniquity, and at the end of this universe it will be.
LMAO! ARE YOU BLIND? HAVE YOU READ WHAT 2-0-SIXX TYPED? IF NOT HERE IS WHAT HE TYPED:
I think he means YOUR Government
. WHEN KING DAVID SINNED HIS PEOPLE WENT THROUGH HARDSHIPS. SAME WITH SOLOMON. HOWEVER THE *MAJORITY* OF AMERICA (THE POPULATION) TOLEREATE AND ACCEPT WICKEDNESS. ITS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE SODOM.
Oh, so Iraq is now free to do as it pleases because it was "judged" LOOOOOOOOONG ago?!
NO. I WAS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THEM.
They can gas their own people, invade and terrorize neighboring nations and somehow remain exempt from being burned by the fire of God? Iraq is not occupied by any sinners?
AMERICA HAS DONE THE *SAME* THING! BY THE WAY IM NOT IN IRAQ. THE PEOPLE WHO I DO KNOW FROM IRAQ AND THE MUSLIMS THAT I DO KNOW SAY THAT SADDAM IS A GREAT MAN. YES IRAQ IS OCCUPIED BY SINNERS HOWEVER IRAQ HAS NOT HARMED AS MANY PLACES AS AMERICA.
I understand they are your views. That is self-evident. As far as me praying to not inhale nuke vapors, why would I? I do not pray for protection from Iraqis or for the damnation of America. I only pray that I may fall at Krsna's lotus feet and serve Him life after life after life after life. Since there is no end to my existence, why should I pray or worry about something as insignificant as nuke vapors?
I HOPE HE HEARS YOU.
The key word here is "more". We are *ALL* sinners. Every person on every continent is born into sin. Even the people of Africa and Iraq are guilty of sin. Your attempt to put America in a separate category is just more dualism. More/Less. Sin is simply a matter of degree, and since you are not the all-knowing and all-powerful Lord, *your* condemnation of any particular country because of its sins worthless.
NO ACTUALLY GOD HIMSELF HAS DEGREES OF SIN. WHAT AMERICA DOES IS COMMIT *ABOMINATIONS*. YOU DONT THINK THEIR ARE DEGREES OF SIN? WHY IS IT THAT BLASHPHEMY AGAINST RAUCH HAKODESH IS *UNFORGIVEN*? WHY IS IT THAT FORNICATION IS THE *ONLY* SIN THAT "ONE COMMITS AGAINST HIS OWN BODY"? i can condemn sin.

1.i am not guilty of that sin. if i was guilty of smoking crack and i told you to stop smoking crack that would be wrong.

2.god tells us to call SIN for what it is and that IS sin. so if im supposed to be like god and have no part in sin i will CALL SIN FOR WHAT IT IS.

I did not say you were casting a stone. The quote clearly explains that we are *ALL* sinners, therefore since you are a sinner, and you are attempting to point the finger at the sins of the American government, there is no VALUE in your damnation of America. It is meaningless.
the answer for THIS is going to be the third post. im GLAD you typed it.
That's great. And whenever you GET to where you are GOING, *then* you can say that it is not YOUR government. As long as you remain here, it *IS* your government.
no its not. they dont reperesnt ME or my views.
If you think that just because you have "disowned" the government in your mind that it no longer governs you, then you are NOT in a position to say "YOUR WAR ON TERRORISM" "YOUR GOVERNMENT" "YOUR COUNTRY", because the people you are assigning posession of the government to, can ALSO say that they do not accept it as "THEIR" government. And since you still reside here your point is rendered moot.
actually the government disowned me. the people who SUPPORT a "war on terrorism" CANNOT say "its not my government". yes i reside here however do you know me? do you know the following?

1.where i work,if im tax exempt or if i even report taxes?

2.if i am an immigrant or if i was born here?

3.if i have DUAL CITIZENSHIP?

4.because i reside here does not mean that i follow the laws or confined to them. if im following the laws of JAH AMERICAN LAW has NO POWER OVER ME.
And there are people in Iraq who are saying the same things about Iraq. The dictatorship in Iraq is NOT indicative of the sentiment of every person who LIVES there. Just like the government in the U.S. is NOT indicative of the sentiment of every person who lives here.
no its not the sentiment of every person who lives here. however if you embrace the government and look on it as yours.....well......
You don't "feel" American because you are NOT "American". You are spirit soul.
1.why are you telling me that i am a spirit soul when i have CONSTANTLY STATED (IN OTHER THREADS) THAT I KNOW THIS? YOU ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE.

2.WHEN I SAY I DONT FEEL "AMERICAN" I AM TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE,WAY OF LIFE AND FEELING PATRIOTIC.
And it will come as no surprise to anyone when Iraq gets smashed on.
AMERICA ISNT INVINCIBLE.
It isn't shocking to me to see images of deformed and disfigured babies in Afghanistan. Big deal.
YET ITS SHOCKING FOR ME TO SAY AMERICA NEEDS TO BE BURNED WITH FIRE! A SIMPLE SENTENCE HAS THAT MUCH POWER OVER YOU THAT YOU MAKE A LONG RESPONSE? WOW! :confused: :rolleyes: SHOULDNT THE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE MOVE YOU MORE THAN WORDS ON A SCREEN?
No. "Feeling" American is a misnomer.
HAVE YOU READ THE WRITINGS OF MALCOLM X? IF NOT I SUGGEST YOU READ HIS WRITINGS AND WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT "FEELING LIKE AN AMERICAN".
What exactly are you a king of?
OF MY KINGDOM.
Is not every man made in the image of God?
YES THEY ARE BUT SOME ARE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL.
Who is *THEY*?
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE BILDERBERGERS,ROTHSCHILDS,COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND TRILATERAL COMMISION?
 

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PART 2 CONTINUED.

You are wise if you understand that you are not "American", "African", or any of these material designations. The essence of our being lies beneath ALL layers of material elements.
I UNDERSTAND THIS AND I HAVE STATED SOMETHING SIMILAR IN MANY POSTS. I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THE "AMERICAN" THING.
But at the same time, you display ignorance by saying that all of "America" needs to be burned by God. On one hand you say that these divisive labels are not worth buying into, yet on the other hand you condemn a whole group of people BECAUSE of the label "America".
NO I CONDEMN THEM BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS THEY DO. BECAUSE OF THE INIQUITY THEY CAUSE. THATS WHY I SHOWED THE PICS. YOUR GRASPING FOR STRAWS.
What is rhetorical about anything I said?
PLEASE READ YOUR POST AGAIN.
You are proving my point. An extremist will not listen to logic or reason. They will simply see that I am in America therefore I deserve to die. And you can be next to me preaching that you LOVE Iraq and you HATE America and guess what? You will be killed just like I will.
NO IM NOT PROVING YOUR POINT. IF YOU HOLD TRUE TO AMERICA AND YOU ENDORSE THIS GOVERNMENT AND WHAT SHE STANDS FOR.....WELL.....MAY GOD BURN YOU WITH FIRE.


@916 YOU SAID:
BUT YOU ARE ONE-SIDED! I AM NOT SO DELUDED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE AREN'T ACTIONS THAT OUR COUNTRY ARE TAKING THAT LEAD TO THESE INNOCENT DEATHS. THERE ARE. THE NATURE OF THIS THREAD LOSES ITS CREDIBILITY ONCE YOU SPEAK OF AMERICA'S DESTRUCTION.
NOT TRUE BUDDY. WHATS WRONG WITH SPEAKING OF AMERICAS DESTRUCTION? HOW IS IT WRONG? THE THREAD ITSELF SHOWS DESTRUCTION BY AMERICAS HAND....MY PERSONAL OPINION AND TAKE IS THAT AMERICA NEEDS TO BE BURNED. BY THE WAY NOT ***ONE*** OF YOU (YOU OR V) HAVE ASKED ME WHAT I MEAN BY "MAY GOD BURN HER WITH FIRE".......SO ITS YOU TWO WHO ARE ONE SIDED. THE STATEMENT IS TWO FOLD. WHY WOULD MY PERSONAL FEELINGS TAKE AWAY CREDIBILTY TO THIS THREAD?? LMAO!!!! AM I NOT ENTITLED TO MY PERSONAL CONVICTIONS AND BELIEFS?
YOU'RE ONE-SIDED! IF ITS FUCKED UP THEN ITS **ALL** FUCKED UP. FUCK JUST DESTROYING AMERICA THEN, DESTROY IT ALL! SAVE THE GOOD CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND LET THE AMERICAN CHILDREN BURN; THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
SEE THE ABOVE. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL IM SAYING. YOU SIMPLY WANT TO ARGUE. LOL! GOD SPARED THE FIRST BORN OF ISRAEL BUT SMOTE THE SEED OF EGYPT....WIPE OUT THE EVIL DOERS.
I AGREE THAT "AMERICA" HAS NO CASE IN A WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. AND THAT WE GET AWAY WITH A LOT OF FUCKED UP SHIT. BUT WHEN YOU USE PICS TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE THINGS BEING DONE BY SO CALLED "AMERICANS" WHICH LEAD TO THE DEATH OF INNOCENT CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK OF SUITCASE NUKES IN CALI; YOU ARE EITHER A MANIPULATOR, A HYPOCRITE, OR BOTH.
HOW IS THIS A CASE OF MANIPULATION AND HYPOCRISY? PLEASE EXPLAIN. I SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT YOU TYPE WORDS AND USE WORDS THAT YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF. YOU USED THE WORD HYPOCRISY AND HYPOCRITE ON ME IN ANOTHER THREAD. I CLEARLY SHOWED YOU IN THAT THREAD THAT YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT.
I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUITCASE NUKES OR IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT IS RIGHTEOUS TO BOMB AMERICA. BUT YOU SPEAK THESE WORDS. IF THEY ARE NOT WORDS TO BE CONSIDERED THEN **DON'T SPEAK THEM**. YOU WILL BE CALLED OUT ON THEM, AND THIS IS IT!
LOOK MAN. FROM ME SAYING AMERICA WOULD BE ATTACKED 7 DAYS ***BEFORE*** 9-11 TO ME SAYING OCTOBER 2002 WOULD HAVE THE MOST BLOOD SHED (I SAID THIS IN SEPTEMBER AND WE HAD SNIPER ATTACKS,BLAST IN BALI,MASSACRE IN RUSSIA,KILLING OF CHINESE CHRISTIANS,SEVERAL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, AND MAJOR CHAOS IN THE MID EAST).....I WILL SPEAK ON IT. PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD KNOW WHAT I SAY. BEFORE 9-11 I SAID AMERICA WOULD **SOON** BE ATTACKED AND THIS ATTACK WOULD LEAD TO WAR. FROM THAT WAR WORLD WAR 3 WOULD HAPPEN. 7 DAYS LATER BAM....A WHILE LATER A WAR ON TERRORISM IS DECLARED....IM JUST WAITING FOR WW3 TO COME ABOUT NOW...:) PEOPLE LAUGHED AND PEOPLE MADE FUN OF ME....WELL WHEN THOSE PLANES SLAMMED INTO THOSE BUILDINGS IT WASNT SO FUNNY WAS IT......THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF LAUGH NOW.....CRY LATER.....

1.HAVE I SAID THAT I HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUITCASE NUKES?

2.HAVE I SAID IT WAS RIGHT FOR IRAQ TO BOMB AMERICA? PLEASE POST IT IF I DID. I DONT RECALL TYPING THESE THINGS BUT REFRESH MY MEMORY IF I DID.
I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE ARE MANY CASES OF HYPOCRISY IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THE WORLD. BUT YOUR WORD GOES OUT THE WINDOW WHEN YOU START A THREAD SHOWING "IRAQ'S" MISFORTUNE DUE TO "AMERICA" WITH WORDS LIKE, "LET GOD BURN HER WITH FIRE", AND THEN SPEAK AS IF WITH NO REGARD TO CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY.
MY WORDS REFLECT ***ME*** AND **MY** VIEWS. IF YOU DONT LIKE THEM OH WELL.
YOUR APPROACH TO YOUR POINT IS **TERRIBLE**. AND YES, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A POINT TO THE THREAD. BUT THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED IS RIDICULOUS. YOUR WHOLE STATE OF MIND HAS BEEN TO SHOW **ONLY** THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF AMERICA.
NO ITS TO SHOW YOU THE EFFECTS OF A WAR ON TERRORISM. WHO ARE *YOU* TO TELL ME THAT MY APPROACH WAS TERRIBLE? OR PRESENTED IN A RIDICULOUS FASHION? THE WAY I HAVE HAD TO CORRECT YOU MANY TIMES IN MANY THREADS DUE TO YOUR *LACK* OF READING THE POSTS,MISQUOTING ME OR ACCUSING ME OF THINGS I DIDNT SAY OR DO IS RIDICULOUS.....
NO ONE DESERVES TO BURN MORE THAN ANOTHER. WHEN YOU SINGLE OUT AMERICA YOU ARE WRONG, PERIOD.
ME SAYING AMERICA NEEDS TO BE BURNED HAS THAT MUCH POWER OVER YOU THAT YOU MADE 2 REPLIES AND WILL MOST LIKELY MAKE SEVERAL MORE.....I HAVE *POWER* OVER YOU.
YOU HAVE DONE NO SUCH THING. YOU ONLY **THINK** THAT YOU HAVE. I DIRECT THINGS TOWARD YOU SO THAT YOU **CAN** QUESTION ME...
BECAUSE YOU WANT MY ATTENTION..SO SAD.....LMAO! AND YOU CALL ME A MANIPULATOR?:confused: YOU CONSTANTLY SAY THINGS WITH NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER. FROM THE HELL THREAD, TO THE THREAD ABOUT GOD BEING ON TEH SIDE OF AMERICA TO THIS ONE. HOW AM I DWELLING ON MATERIAL THINGS? PLEASE GO BACK AND READ THAT THREAD AGIAN. YOU ARE WARPED.
THERE ARE MANY OCCASSIONS WHEN I DID NOT SPEAK ON THIS. MAYBE I SHALL SPEAK ON IT MORE IN THE FUTURE. VYASADEVA HAS BEEN "PULLING YOUR CARDS" ON THIS THREAD.
HOW IS HE PULLING MY CARDS? LMAO I LOVE IT!! HOW IS HE PULLING MY CARDS WHEN I HAVE ONLY RESPONDED TO HIM TWICE? WHY IS IT THAT YOU INCLUDE V IN YOUR THEORIS AND STATEMENTS? IS THIS ANOTHER CASE OF "WE"? V HAS CONTRADICTED HIMSELF SO MANY TIMES ITS PATHETIC. TO SAYING HE ADHERES TO THE BIBLE TO SAYING HE DOESNT ADHERE TO THE BIBLE.... YOU ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE HAD A VERY BAD TRACK RECORD. IM CONSTANTLY CORRECTING YOU AND SHOWING YOU (AND THE BOARD) THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. TAKE THE HELL THREAD AS AN EXAMPLE.
YOUR THOUGHT IS BIASED AND IT WAS SHOWN IN YOUR POLL ON THE "IS GOD ON AMERICA'S SIDE" THREAD.
1.DID I VOTE ON THAT POLL? IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ME VOTING HOW DO YOU KNOW IF I AM BIASED?

2.IS THE POLL BASED ON *MY* THOUGHTS OR IS IT BASED ON AN ARTICLE? IF ITS BASED ON THE ARTICLE HOW AM I BIASED?
THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY "MATERIALISTIC THOUGHT". YOU DO NOT SEE THE BIG PICTURE. YOU DWELL ON THE PETTY MATERIAL THINGS. MY WORDS MEAN NOTHING TO YOU RIGHT NOW. JUST IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. I EXPECT NOTHING PRODUCTIVE FROM THIS RESPONSE. NEVERTHELESS THESE ARE MY WORDS AND YOU ASKED FOR THEM
NO YOU DONT SEE THE BIG PICTURE. YOUR WORDS GO IN AND OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE MEANINGLESS. PEEP THE HELL THREAD.
THIS REMINDS ME OF THE MENTALLY DISABLED KID CALLING ME STUPID FOR LOOKING AT HIM.
THIS REMINDS OF WHEN I HAD AN CONVO WITH SOMEONE AND THIS ONE GUY STARTED ANSWERING FOR THE OTHER GUY. IN FACT HE STARTED SAYING "WE" AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.....DOES THAT RING A BELL????
JUST BECAUSE I QUOTED ONE THING FROM THAT MOVIE. HOW PATHETIC... NEXT!
ROFL! NO COMMENT MAN.


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IN REGARDS TO JUDGEMENT.

V typed this:
I did not say you were casting a stone. The quote clearly explains that we are *ALL* sinners, therefore since you are a sinner, and you are attempting to point the finger at the sins of the American government, there is no VALUE in your damnation of America. It is meaningless.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.
in response to that i have the following for you.
MATTHEW 7:1-5:"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."
IS THIS TALKING ABOUT HYPOCRITICAL JUDGEMENT? AMERICA IS GUILTY OF TERRORISM. NOT ME. AMERICA IS THE ONE WITH THE BEAM IN HER EYE. HER CRIMES AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF AFRICA. HER RAPE OF AFRICA AND HER MANIPULATION AND DECIMATION OF AFRICAN TRIBES. HOW CAN AMERICA REMOVE THE MOTE IN HER EYE WHEN SHE HAS DESTROYED THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THIS LAND AND HAS RAPED SOUTH AFRICA OF ALL HER PRESTIGE AND DIGNITY? HOW CAN AMERICA WAGE A WAR ON TERRORISM AND BLAME SADDAM FOR GASSING HIS PEOPLE WHEN *AMERICA* GAVE HIM THE WEAPONS IN THE 80'S????? IS NOT AMERICA PARTLY RESPONSIBLE? I HAVE A RIGHT AS CHILD OF GOD TO SAY ITS WRONG.

JOHN 7:14: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

AMERICA HAS NOT DEALT FAIRLY WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AMERICA SAYS SADDAM IS A TERRORIST WHEN AMERICA IS THE ONE WHO SUPPORTED HIM TO BEGIN WITH.

LUKE 12:57: "Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" I CANT JUDGE RIGHT FROM WRONG? I CANT SAY WHATS RIGHT? I CANT SAY THAT AMERICA IS WRONG FOR HER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CFR AND WORLD BANK?

PSALM 37:30: "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment." YOU TWO ARE COMING AT ME AS IF I HAVE DONE SOMETHIGN WRONG. HAVE YOU TAKEN THIS FIRM OF A STANCE AGAINST THOSE WHO YOU KNOW FOR A *FACT* ARE DOING THINGS WRONG AND MURDERING PEOPLE? JUDGEMENT WILL COME UPON AMERICA.

PROVERBS 31:9: "Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy." IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO PLEAD THE CAUSE OF THE BUTCHERED IN IRAQ? IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO PLEAD THE CAUSE OF THE POOR IN SOUTH AMERICA? IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO PLEAD THE CAUSE OF THE NEEDY IN AFRICA? WHY AM I DESPISED AND TOLD THAT I AM WRONG WHEN THE WORD OF GOD TELLS ME TO OPEN MY MOUTH AND PLEAD THE CAUSE OF THESE PEOPLE? THE CONDITION THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE IN HAS A LOT TO DO WITH AMERICA.

EZEKIEL 22:2 & 23:36: "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? Yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations... The Lord said moreover unto me, Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? Yea, declare unto them their abominations." IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO JUDGE THE BLOODY CITY AND SHOW HER ABOMINATIONS? TO SHOW WHAT YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE SUPPORTING?

ISAIAH 58:1: "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins." IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO SHOW THE AMERICANS (WHO ARE ALSO GODS PEOPLE) HER TRANSGRESSIONS AND SINS????

I CORINTHIANS 2:15; 6:2-3: "He that is spiritual judgeth all things... Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?" I AM SPIRITUAL. I WILL JUDGE ALL THINGS. EVEN THE THINGS I AM GUILTY OF. I WILL SEE IF THEY LINE UP WITH JAH. IF THEY DONT I AM GUILTY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I WILL JUDGE THE WORLD AND IT WILL BE JUDGE BY ME. IM NOT JUDGING BY MY STANDARDS. IM JUDGING BY GODS (AS STATED IN THE BIBLE).

Proverbs 28:5"EVIL MEN understand not judgment, but they that seek the Lord understand all things." "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but FOOLS despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov.1:7 ANDProv.9:7-10) ASK YOUR SELF IF YOU UNDERSTAND JUDGEMENT.....



Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
"LET US HEAR THE CONCLUSION OF THE WHOLE MATTER: FEAR GOD, AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE DUTY OF MAN. FOR GOD SHALL BRING EVERY WORK INTO JUDGMENT, WITH EVERY SECRET THING, WHETHER IT BE GOOD, OR WHETHER IT BE EVIL."
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CASE CLOSED. MAY GOD BURN AMERICA WITH FIRE.

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I think its a mis-use of the word "country" cuz country to me consists of me, you and this land we live on. Government on the other hand, thats the term that would be more aplicable... like you've said, its the top elite that runs the world, me and you are not the top elite, its our government that is...
 
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"NOT TRUE BUDDY. WHATS WRONG WITH SPEAKING OF AMERICAS DESTRUCTION? HOW IS IT WRONG? THE THREAD ITSELF SHOWS DESTRUCTION BY AMERICAS HAND....MY PERSONAL OPINION AND TAKE IS THAT AMERICA NEEDS TO BE BURNED. BY THE WAY NOT ***ONE*** OF YOU (YOU OR V) HAVE ASKED ME WHAT I MEAN BY "MAY GOD BURN HER WITH FIRE".......SO ITS YOU TWO WHO ARE ONE SIDED. THE STATEMENT IS TWO FOLD. WHY WOULD MY PERSONAL FEELINGS TAKE AWAY CREDIBILTY TO THIS THREAD?? LMAO!!!! AM I NOT ENTITLED TO MY PERSONAL CONVICTIONS AND BELIEFS? "



I have never seen you speak or make a post against the transgressions of any other country. I am stating that you only speak in regards against America. Once again, if we're fucked up we're ALL fucked up. everyone is entitled to their personal convictions, their beliefs, and their ignorances...
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"HOW IS THIS A CASE OF MANIPULATION AND HYPOCRISY? PLEASE EXPLAIN. I SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT YOU TYPE WORDS AND USE WORDS THAT YOU DONT KNOW THE MEANING OF. YOU USED THE WORD HYPOCRISY AND HYPOCRITE ON ME IN ANOTHER THREAD. I CLEARLY SHOWED YOU IN THAT THREAD THAT YOU DIDNT KNOW WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT."



I have said it and said it and said it and said it, etc etc...
You clearly showed me your ignorance.
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Did I??
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"2.HAVE I SAID IT WAS RIGHT FOR IRAQ TO BOMB AMERICA? PLEASE POST IT IF I DID. I DONT RECALL TYPING THESE THINGS BUT REFRESH MY MEMORY IF I DID."



so umm... what was it you would do if you were president??
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"NO ITS TO SHOW YOU THE EFFECTS OF A WAR ON TERRORISM. WHO ARE *YOU* TO TELL ME THAT MY APPROACH WAS TERRIBLE? OR PRESENTED IN A RIDICULOUS FASHION? THE WAY I HAVE HAD TO CORRECT YOU MANY TIMES IN MANY THREADS DUE TO YOUR *LACK* OF READING THE POSTS,MISQUOTING ME OR ACCUSING ME OF THINGS I DIDNT SAY OR DO IS RIDICULOUS....."




You only preach against America. Your one-sidedness is ridiculous. There is never a lack of reading on my part and I never misquoted you. You were never accused of any such thing...
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"ME SAYING AMERICA NEEDS TO BE BURNED HAS THAT MUCH POWER OVER YOU THAT YOU MADE 2 REPLIES AND WILL MOST LIKELY MAKE SEVERAL MORE.....I HAVE *POWER* OVER YOU."



If that makes you feel warm and special. It wasn't the fact alone of you saying America needs to be burned. Either you aren't reading or you are an idiot, which is it?



I'll get the rest in a few...
 
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"BECAUSE YOU WANT MY ATTENTION..SO SAD.....LMAO! AND YOU CALL ME A MANIPULATOR? YOU CONSTANTLY SAY THINGS WITH NO VALIDITY WHATSOEVER. FROM THE HELL THREAD, TO THE THREAD ABOUT GOD BEING ON TEH SIDE OF AMERICA TO THIS ONE. HOW AM I DWELLING ON MATERIAL THINGS? PLEASE GO BACK AND READ THAT THREAD AGIAN. YOU ARE WARPED."




If I explain it anymore your head will implode. Why do you keep asking me the same questions when they have been explained to you? Like I said before, "in one ear and out the other."
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Once again...
you only **think** this is how it has been. I have no more to speak right now, the fog around you is too thick.
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voting or not voting does not matter...
DID YOU WRITE THE POLL?? its kind of like if I made a poll for you stating: Does your mom know you are homosexual? yes or no. Now, perhaps you see why that statement was made a while bacc. But, then again, perhaps not... Whatever the fog lets in...
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"2.IS THE POLL BASED ON *MY* THOUGHTS OR IS IT BASED ON AN ARTICLE? IF ITS BASED ON THE ARTICLE HOW AM I BIASED?"



You wrote the poll based on an article. If you didn't adhere to it in some way, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE POSTED IT. And when it came down to it, you defended the belief of God being on a nation's side and against another. This PROVES that you adhere to the biasness of the poll. Who is trying to argue now?
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believe as you wish. I already knew this would be your answer. The hell thread is a whole other story. I was speaking on the nature of hell rather than whether Judas went there or not. I apologized for jumping into the thread without full regard to its purpose. My views still remained the same, ever growing. I already see the confines of the box you are in and it would be transparent, but it seems to be filled with fog...
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Nope, sorry. Oh shit! wait a minute... I remember LETTING THIS GO. Where were you when I was enlightened to this? But, I will still let you know that you have NOTHING tangible against me, even regarding my commenting on a question meant for another. And regarding the "we" thing:
(pulling the string as a voice comes out...) "Heresy says, "you guys must hang on every whim and thought that :H: makes....."


You guys, huh? this isn't a "Heresy versus Vyasadeva and n9newunsixx5150" thread...
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I have never seen you speak or make a post against the transgressions of any other country.
so? you dont see me do lots of things that i do. so because i dont do it in front of YOU i dont do it at all? i have spoken out on many places however im more animate about america because i reside in america.
I am stating that you only speak in regards against America.
and???? is this wrong? in THIS post im speaking out against america. you havent been here long enough. you were not here when the siccness took the big fall (when alot of its material was lost) you dont know what i have or havent said.JOHN 7:14: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment." apply that to you and what your doing now.
Once again, if we're fucked up we're ALL fucked up.
yes i agree but im talking about america. not "all".
everyone is entitled to their personal convictions, their beliefs, and their ignorances...
ok so why tell me im wrong in what i think or what i type? is it hurting you? is it placing you in a situation that is detremental to your way of living/life? no it isnt. once again you nor V asked me what i meant by burning her with fire.....so **QUICK** to latch onto my words.....im important.....
I have said it and said it and said it and said it, etc etc...
you have said nothing but empty words. who have i manipulated? how have i shown hypocrisy? in the other thread did i say anything was wrong with blowing stuff up? no. did i say your boy tyler was a nutcase for blowing stuff up? no. i said he was a nutcase who blew stuff up and beat himself up. im giving a description of him. that is in no way inclining that blowing up things is a bad thing. here:

tyler is a beer drinking nutcase who wears a leather coat and carried a 9 mm.

am i implying that its wrong to drink beer,wear a leather coat or bang a 9 milli????? LMAO@YOUR CONCLUSIONS!!!!!


what is the reason for you stating the following
I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUITCASE NUKES
???? if i have given no statement that implements my involvement in a suitcase nuke why would you say what you said?
so umm... what was it you would do if you were president??
i already explained this in another thread. refer to it.
You only preach against America. Your one-sidedness is ridiculous. There is never a lack of reading on my part and I never misquoted you. You were never accused of any such thing...
im gonna dig up the hell thread. all through out that thread i had to tell you to stop misquoting me, stop accusing me of things i didnt say and do etc etc etc. i was never accused of such a thing? watch when i post your words from the hell thread. lol!!!!!! even in the hell thread you apologize for your actions. NOW it seems like they never happened......LMAO!!!!! just wait till i post them.
If that makes you feel warm and special. It wasn't the fact alone of you saying America needs to be burned. Either you aren't reading or you are an idiot, which is it?
once again my views,opinions etc etc etc are MINE. regardless if YOU feel im biased or NOT. me saying america needs to be burned with fire started a reaction within you. its eating at your soul!!! who cares if it wasnt that alone? that was a major factor. if not you would not have quoted me in your first response.
I'll get the rest in a few...
yeah you do that.

1.you have no case of hypocrisy. the same thing i have said i have stuck to. no switch ups no changes.

2.you have no case for manipulation. who have i manipulated? you? someone on the board? how have i manipulated?

3.you have accused me of being this and being that and none of it has any validity.....you said i was close minded....said i was selfish etc etc etc....how do you know these things?


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by the way...

It is not a weakness to apologize. You got offended because I was speaking of hell against what you conceived how hell was interpreted in the bible. And given that the thread was about a biblical character, judas, you felt I had no grounds to be speaking that which I was. I apologized for jumping into the thread without full regard to its purpose. That is in the past now, let it go. If you really knew me you could bring up past things I have said against the existence of God. I used to be atheist when I was much younger. But, we do not live in the past. I form my words according to the times and circumstances. When I make a mistake, I take account for it...
 

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If I explain it anymore your head will implode. Why do you keep asking me the same questions when they have been explained to you? Like I said before, "in one ear and out the other."
if i ask you the same questions its because you keep typing the same madness, or because you have not answered the questions posed to you (which you are guilty of). oh the "IS RELIGION THE SOURCE OF MORALITY" thread is a ***CLASSIC*** example of you and V contradicting each other and being hypocrites. however the bulk of the idiocy lands in your court.
Once again...you only **think** this is how it has been. I have no more to speak right now, the fog around you is too thick.
no!!!! im going by what you also saw. which is why you CHANGED your stance and even apologized for irrational behaviour.
voting or not voting does not matter...
LMAO!!!!!!! SO HOW AM I BIASED WHEN ALL I DID WAS MAKE THE POLL???? HOW HAVE I SHOWN A TENDENCY TO BE THAT WAY OR THIS WAY?????
DID YOU WRITE THE POLL??
YES I WROTE THE POLL THAT WAS BASED ON TEH ARTICLE HOWEVER HOW CAN ME MAKING A POLL DICTATE HOW I ACTUALLY FELT? WHEN BLIGHT MADE THE POLL ABOUT THE WAR ON IRAQ AND WHAT ITS FOR WAS HE BIASED? THAT POLL IS NOT A REFLECTION OF THE BELIEFS OF HERESY. ITS A REFLECTION OF THE ARTICLE.
its kind of like if I made a poll for you stating: Does your mom know you are homosexual? yes or no. Now, perhaps you see why that statement was made a while bacc. But, then again, perhaps not... Whatever the fog lets in...
1.HOW COULD YOU LOGICALLY MAKE A POLL LIKE THAT WHEN YOU DONT KNOW MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE? WHAT WOULD YOU BE BASING YOUR POLL ON? THE FACT THAT I HAVE HAD SEVERAL GIRLFRIENDS IN THE PAST AND EVEN POSTED PICS OF THEM ON THIS SITE???? THE FACT THAT I HAVE TALKED TO FEMALES ON THIS BOARD AND EVEN WENT OUT WITH SOME OF THEM??? SEE IM BASING MY POLL ON AN ARTICLE. YOUR POLL WOULD BE BASED ON *YOUR* HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES AND THOUGHTS. YEAH WHATEVER THE FOG LETS IN.
You wrote the poll based on an article. If you didn't adhere to it in some way, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE POSTED IT.
NO NOT TRUE. I POSTED THE POLL BECAUSE I THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN READING IT AND DISCUSSING IT. THIS IS THE GATHERING OF MINDS YOU KNOW. HOW IS IT THAT YOU CAN TELL ME MY MOTIVES AND WHY I POSTED IT OR HOW I FELT????ARE YOU GOD?
And when it came down to it, you defended the belief of God being on a nation's side and against another. This PROVES that you adhere to the biasness of the poll. Who is trying to argue now?
PLEASE READ THE BOOK OF AMOS. GOD MUST BE ON THE SIDES OF THOSE 8 NATIONS.....IN THAT POLL DID I TAKE A STANCE ON GOD BEING ON THE SIDE OF AMERICA? DID I MAKE A CLAIM THAT HE WAS OR WASNT FOR AMERICA? NO. ALL I DID WAS SHOW INSTANCES AND CASES FROM THE BIBLE.GRASP FOR STRAWS.
believe as you wish. I already knew this would be your answer. The hell thread is a whole other story. I was speaking on the nature of hell rather than whether Judas went there or not. I apologized for jumping into the thread without full regard to its purpose. My views still remained the same, ever growing. I already see the confines of the box you are in and it would be transparent, but it seems to be filled with fog...
LMAO!!!!!!! MAN YOU ***CHANGED*** YOUR VIEWS IN THE HELL THREAD!!!!!! GO BACK AND READ IT!!!!!!
Nope, sorry. Oh shit! wait a minute... I remember LETTING THIS GO. Where were you when I was enlightened to this? But, I will still let you know that you have NOTHING tangible against me, even regarding my commenting on a question meant for another.
LMAO!!! YOU KNOW WHAT.....IF YOU WERENT SUCH AN INSIGNIFICANT YET TASTY MORSEL OF RIDICULE AND LAUGHTER I WOULD DEDICATE A THREAD TO YOU.....HOWEVER IT AINT HAPPENING. READ THE HELL THREAD,THE GOD ON AMERICAS SIDE THREAD AND THE RELIGION IS A SOURCE OF MORALITY THREAD. YOU TYPE JUST TO TYPE.
You guys, huh? this isn't a "Heresy versus Vyasadeva and n9newunsixx5150" thread...
YOU TWO ARE THE MOST ANIMATE.
Thank you...
NO THANK YOU.

IM GONNA GIVE THESE GUYS A CHANCE OR TWO SO THEY CAN REPLY. AFTER THAT THEY *BOTH* WILL GO ON IGNORE BUT I WONT EVEN DIRECT ANYTHING AT THEM. I WANNA SEE HOW THEY REACT TO MY WORDS WHEN I DONT EVEN REPLY TO THEM......LOL!!!


INCREDIBLE THINKING DUMMIES.........


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I have said what I have said in circles. This will never end. I have been shown your lack of understanding and for me to venture further into it would be pointless at this time. You could not even make the connection between the biasness of the poll YOU wrote and the example poll I stated. You acted as if I was really asking you about you being homosexual. Way over you head there, guy. Once again, I have said what I have said. My lips are now tightly shut. Although, I would still like to hear what you meant when you said, "Let God burn her with fire."

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Oh, i just got done printing. I wish these people would fuckin quit printing so i can finish printing more and go drop them off at my designated spots.

Coffeee shops serve people that will take notice if you ever saw people in coffee shops.