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Miro

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in other news the cyber war continue: group of hackers took down paypal earlier today and currently the swiss bank that drop wikileaks' account ... postfinance.ch
 

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Has anyone thought that maybe they wanted these cables to leak, and that Assange is part of the CIA or NSA? The only reason why I say this is because why would they have let him go this long without pinning something on him, or Wikileaks? We're talking about a supposedly small network of people, not a country with immense resources.
This entire thing could be the work of the CIA or Mossad. However, I do know when they want you, one of the first things they'll bring up is your sexual history.


cause he's a piece of shit.....
coondogg26, you've been a member here for some time, fam. Seriously bro, what's your take on this guy why do you say he's a piece of shit? Personally I'm on the fence about the guy, but let me know something, cuzzo.
 
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Has anyone thought that maybe they wanted these cables to leak, and that Assange is part of the CIA or NSA? The only reason why I say this is because why would they have let him go this long without pinning something on him, or Wikileaks? We're talking about a supposedly small network of people, not a country with immense resources.

Saudi Arabia saying they want the U.S. to take out Iran is the only good thing to come from it. The sooner this guy is dead, the better.
 
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I think we need more hackers like him out there doing good.

It was the work of hackers that exposed the whole global warming scam...
and prevented the new world order from gaining more power.
Not all hackers are bad.. just the destructive ones who destroy websites..

If he releases cables that can take down the Fed.. then he will be
known as an American Hero.

That is all..
 
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Putting soldiers and agents in the field at risk is not doing good.
They put soldiers and agents at risk by sending them places and fight where they have no business to be or fight at all.

And if Australia wants to 'stop' china then they simply could stop exporting all the steel to china. I believe china is the biggest buyer of Australian steel, no?
 
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This is a good informative article, read it.


The persecution of WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange

December 2010

The American state, its spokesmen in the mass media, and its allies around the world are engaged in an international campaign of vilification and persecution against WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange.

This campaign has nothing to do with any supposed crime he has committed, since he has committed none. He is the target of an international manhunt for his role in lifting the lid on the lies and criminal operations of imperialist powers the world over—above all, in the United States.

The same mafia-type criminality is now being deployed with full force against WikiLeaks and Private Bradley Manning, who is charged with leaking some of the documents. In the US, politicians of both parties are united in their determination to see Assange arrested. The Obama administration has branded the leakers, as well as WikiLeaks, “criminals,” with the US attorney general pledged to “close the gap” by inventing a pseudo-legal basis for prosecution if one does not exist at present.

Former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and ex-military officials have demanded the death penalty for Manning, while Sarah Palin has insisted that WikiLeaks be branded a terrorist organization.

Washington’s junior partners abroad have been equally adamant in their attack. Tom Flanagan, a former adviser to the Canadian prime minister, declared that Assange should be “assassinated,” that Obama should “put out a contract and maybe use a drone or something.” And the fact that Assange is a citizen of Australia did not prevent Julia Gillard, the prime minister of that country, from declaring, without any evidence, that Assange’s actions were “illegal,” while placing her government at the service of the US witch-hunt.

Assange faces the immediate threat of arrest on the basis of trumped-up charges in Sweden. On Thursday, Swedish authorities obtained a new arrest warrant on alleged sexual misconduct charges—invariably, and falsely, described in the mass media as “rape.” The charges were initially considered so specious that the prosecutor ordered them dropped. This decision was reversed, however, and Sweden on Thursday submitted a warrant to Interpol. Police in Britain—where Assange is believed to be located—have pledged his arrest, which could happen as early as today.

There can be no doubt that the charges leveled against Assange in Sweden are only a convenient pretext to seek his detention.

Indeed, among the more revealing documents posted so far by WikiLeaks is one from the US ambassador to Sweden, who notes that Sweden’s close ties to the United States military “give the lie to the official policy” of non-participation in military alliances. In what has begun to emerge as a theme in the released cables from the US State Department, the ambassador warns that these ties should not be revealed because this would “open up the government to domestic criticism.”

The documents obtained by WikiLeaks—only a small fraction of which have been released so far—help expose what is a permanent conspiracy against the democratic rights of the world’s population: from covering up US bombings of civilians in Yemen, to working behind the scenes to obstruct the prosecution of CIA agents guilty of torture, to spying on UN officials in violation of international treaties.

Those who are leading the campaign against WikiLeaks are themselves responsible for horrific atrocities. In the face of allegations from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that WikiLeaks had placed lives in danger, Assange gave an appropriate response in an interview with Time magazine. WikiLeaks, he noted, “has never caused an individual … to come to any sort of physical harm or to be wrongly imprisoned and so on. That is a record compared to the organizations that we are trying to expose who have literally been involved in the deaths of hundreds or thousands or, potentially over the course of many years, millions.”

This criminality continues, now under the Obama administration. One document released by WikiLeaks that has been virtually ignored in the media is particularly revealing. In the spring of 2009, the Obama administration, in alliance with top figures in the Republican Party, intervened to pressure the Spanish government to derail an investigation into torture carried out by the Bush administration.

At one point, a representative of the US embassy, together with former chairman of the Republican Party Mel Martinez, met with the acting Spanish Foreign Minister to insist that “the prosecutions would not be understood or accepted in the US and would have an enormous impact” on US-Spanish relations. The prosecutions were quickly scuttled.

If the actions of WikiLeaks have helped reveal, in real time, the lies of the American government, they have also exposed the role of the chief propagators of these lies: the American media. For decades, the US government has cultivated the media to the point where it engages in self-censorship as a matter of course, where it does not even blush to declare itself “embedded” with this or that military unit or other state body.

The major newspapers regularly clear major articles with the White House and the Pentagon, delaying stories that could be politically harmful. Now, what is supposedly a central obligation of the media—to expose government secrets and provide information to the population—is treated by the media itself as if it were a criminal enterprise.

The mainstream media has long been concerned in particular about the potential of the Internet to allow people to access information unfiltered through official channels. There can be no doubt that the WikiLeaks revelations will provide further impetus to the campaign by the US government to assert greater control over online networks.

The WikiLeaks web site has already been the target of repeated denial of service attacks, of suspicious origin. In an attempt to get WikiLeaks back online, the organization rented servers from Amazon. On Wednesday, Amazon blocked WikiLeaks from using its servers, apparently under pressure from US officials and staff members of Democrat turned Independent Senator Joseph Lieberman, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.

The state persecution of Assange—enthusiastically backed by the mass media—is one expression of a far-reaching decay of democracy in the United States and internationally. World governments, led by the United States, are carrying out deeply unpopular policies—the multi-trillion dollar bailout of financial institutions, relentless demands for social austerity and the expanding war and global plunder.

The constant proclamations about the need for secrecy, which WikiLeaks has violated by publishing government documents, arises fundamentally from the irreconcilable conflict between the social interests that these governments represent and the needs and aspirations of the vast majority of the population.

The persecution of Assange in an effort to silence this exposure is not simply a threat to one individual. The methods employed against WikiLeaks will be used against all opposition to the policies of the corporate and financial aristocracy.

In the final analysis, the hysterical witch-hunt against Assange and WikiLeaks is not any sign of strength on the part of the American ruling elite and its state, but rather of fear and weakness. Intensely conscious of the crisis and instability of the political and economic system, they fear that revelations of state crimes will only fuel the inevitable eruption of mass working class opposition to their reactionary policies in the US and around the world. It is this emerging movement of social struggles on a global scale that must undertake an implacable defense of Assange, WikiLeaks and all those who seek to drag the crimes and conspiracies of imperialism into the light of day.

Joseph Kishore
 
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This entire thing could be the work of the CIA or Mossad. However, I do know when they want you, one of the furst things they'll bring up is your sexual history.




coondogg26, you've been a member here for some time, fam. Seriously bro, what's your take on this guy why do you say he's a piece of shit? Personally I'm on the fence about the guy, but let me know something, cuzzo.
I think that he's a thief and a swindler.

Honestly, what good comes out of releasing all this info? This world is already on thin ice, it won't take much for WW3 to happen.

The release of these cables only empowers countries like Iran. It gives them even more of an excuse to paint themselves as victims and now they have proof that not only is the U.S against them, but so are the other middle eastern countries. The middle east is unstable enough, and this only increases that instability.

It's like when you talk to your boys about your girl, not everything you say is going to be good so how would you feel if it got back to your girl what you were saying?

I just don't understand how anyone could think what this guy is doing is positive.
 

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I think that he's a thief and a swindler.
On what grounds are you saying this?

Honestly, what good comes out of releasing all this info?
What good comes from doing the actions described in the info? That is the more important question.

This world is already on thin ice, it won't take much for WW3 to happen.
That isn't his fault. We've been on the brink of WWIII since WWII was declared over.

The release of these cables only empowers countries like Iran.
How so? Regardless of if anything was/is ever released, Iran was/is going to do whatever it wants to do.

It gives them even more of an excuse to paint themselves as victims
So? We've been painting ourselves as victims for decades now.

and now they have proof that not only is the U.S against them, but so are the other middle eastern countries. The middle east is unstable enough, and this only increases that instability.
They already knew the U.S. was against them and had all the proof they needed years ago. They already knew other countries in the mideast were against them.

It's like when you talk to your boys about your girl, not everything you say is going to be good so how would you feel if it got back to your girl what you were saying?
I keep my private life private. I don't kiss and tell. I don't say things about people that I wouldn't say to their face.

You understand where I'm going here?

I just don't understand how anyone could think what this guy is doing is positive.
If he isn't a stooge, what he did was a great thing.
 

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Has anyone thought that maybe they wanted these cables to leak, and that Assange is part of the CIA or NSA? The only reason why I say this is because why would they have let him go this long without pinning something on him, or Wikileaks? We're talking about a supposedly small network of people, not a country with immense resources.
This is one school of thought that I am concerned with, because I do believe alot of governments want to cencor the internet and this would be a really good excuse. So I think it's not that hard to believe.

And if Australia wants to 'stop' china then they simply could stop exporting all the steel to china. I believe china is the biggest buyer of Australian steel, no?
The US doesn't think highly of us when it comes to military power, but then again that doesn't concern me because they have underestimated many armies, just because you have the biggest gun doesn't mean you will always win the fight.

But anyway this shit is embarrassing to us Australians because the kevin rudd we know, is the biggest suck up to asia in our history and for him to say shit like 'use military force' is absurd and has damaged our relations with china.

And yes we have alot of trade with china.
 
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/08/3087467.htm?site=melbourne

they denied him bail.

He's going to end up in jail for a long time or he's going to commit "suicide."

This is what happens.

Defamation of character. Anytime a new leak comes out, the media will be like, "A new leak released by Wikileaks, founded by alleged rapist Julian Assange...". This way the media won't have to seriously look into any leaks and honestly discuss what is going on.

After that, it's a more permanent solution.