WHY IS EVERYONE HATING ON HYPHEE MOVEMENT

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CcytzO_Loc

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TROLL said:
ok.. since race was brought up.. why should a norteno support hyphy when hyphy dont support the norteno??
still dont see your reasoning or point of this question....thas like askin why should chicanos celebrate 4th of July if 4th of July dont celebrate chicanos????

im sure you got plans to celebrate on the 4th right????





TROLL said:
im sure u heard romped out norteno with the mac named dre.. well the remix has mousie on it.. peep it..

romped out norteno is one of the few traccs you hear mousie bangin on .....he said himself out his own lips thats not what hes about.....he only does it when hes asked to as a feature basically....his solo shit isnt the same....he come gangsta dont get me wrong....but if you didnt know shit about him being a norteno you wouldnt judge him by that standard...youd see him for what he is....an artist....

TROLL said:
i know your not knockin anybody.. but there are plenty of homeboy artists who dont bang super hardcore in there music but still get hated on because they bang period.. thats the whole point of my view on the hyphy movement.. it doesnt rep/respect those in the bay who do.. i dont disrespect homeboys who are into it tho.. what the next man does dont concern me..

its part of a rappers life to get hated on by some people regardless....norteno rappers aint the only ones limited to this factor.....

ive been at shows wit my nigga Menace....he gets love everywhere by all kinds of people....i nor him feel he is being hated on to a point of concern....and people know what he bangs....

TROLL said:
i support folx like macdre, cougnut, spice-1, messy marv etc cuz they at least recognized homies by collabing with em..
so you wont support e 40 or other bay artists till they do a tracc wit a norteno???? why should he do a tracc wit a norteno to begin wit if he aint into the gang scene????
 

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CcytzO_Loc said:
still dont see your reasoning or point of this question....thas like askin why should chicanos celebrate 4th of July if 4th of July dont celebrate chicanos????

im sure you got plans to celebrate on the 4th right????
nope.. i work.. fuckin sux but i would jus because its a reason to celebrate... but that would be an arguement in itself for someone who doesnt like that fact they are or jus arent, american.. thas kind of a bad analogy cuz this is more pertaining to muzik but i see where you were goin with it.. but my point is u said..
CcytzO_Loc said:
only ones who gonna support Norte rap are mainly nortenos or wanna be nortenos....
right, and i didnt disagree with u when u said..
CcytzO_Loc said:
aint tryin ta knocc cats that do the hardcore norte music....im jus sayin you cant expect it to spread much further than northern cali...
but as i said earlier there are plenty of cats who dont and still get no play..why is that? :eyecross:

CcytzO_Loc said:
romped out norteno is one of the few traccs you hear mousie bangin on .....he said himself out his own lips thats not what hes about.....he only does it when hes asked to as a feature basically....his solo shit isnt the same....he come gangsta dont get me wrong....but if you didnt know shit about him being a norteno you wouldnt judge him by that standard...youd see him for what he is....an artist....
ok..u jus reaffirmd my question above


CcytzO_Loc said:
its part of a rappers life to get hated on by some people regardless....norteno rappers aint the only ones limited to this factor.....
i agree..

CcytzO_Loc said:
ive been at shows wit my nigga Menace....he gets love everywhere by all kinds of people....i nor him feel he is being hated on to a point of concern....and people know what he bangs....
i didnt understand that folx.. but if u said u kno he's feelin like he's being hated on.. then yeah!!! thas been my point this whole discussion basically... lol.

CcytzO_Loc said:
so you wont support e 40 or other bay artists till they do a tracc wit a norteno???? why should he do a tracc wit a norteno to begin wit if he aint into the gang scene????
nah.. i was gonna add more but i jus got off work a half hour ago and didnt finish.. i was gonna say that its more then jus them not doin a track tho and about how they gave shot outs and shiet.... but why would he have done a track with lynch if he wasnt gonna appeal to the gang scene...

I dont hate the hyphy movement but its appeal is lost for me.. im happy the bay gettin expozure dont get me wrong, but whats givin it its expozure is something that doesnt represent me.. im from the bay before hyphy was..
 
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CcytzO_Loc said:
i dont really know what you mean by support but if you mean you want a bunch a blacc people who dont know shit about a mexican gang to buy, promote and sell music that talks about the gang then your crazy.....a lot of blacc gangsta rappers reached some success witout mentioning the actual gang they are a part of.........
Aside from Mainstream rappers like Snoop Doggy Dogg and Mack 10 (cuz alot of different factors are involved with their success, not just talent alone), what about Brotha Lynch and X-Raided and all them? They talk about "Garden Blocc" in almost every song, talking about shit that only happens in Sacramento and they seem to have built a solid fan base outside of the crip listeners. How is it a white kid can appreciate music from black gangster rappers when he can't relate to any of it? Black is a dominant culture in America from music to clothes to whatever. Ice Cube can rap about white devils and white people'll buy it. All of Black Market can rap about being Garden Block Crips killing rivals and everyone will buy it. Nortenos mention "scraps" and Norte in one or two songs and it's "people can't relate to that shit! We don't understand spanish! We're not Nortays! Rap about something we can all relate to."

Shit, most homeboy rap cds don't even mention all that hard core shit, at least not on the solo albums. Only on compilations like GUN, NORTHERN GHETTO BOYZ, NORTHSIDE STORIES, and those albums weren't meant for squares. Big Tone, Sir Dyno, Woodie, rap about all kinds of things but people just want to dismiss shit.
 

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im not a wannabe as mentioned above but im just feelin that g shit and the quality that comes with it.. drew, shadow and mousie would all make it big like mr kee did if they just had the opportunity
 
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BENNY_BLANCO1 said:
Aside from Mainstream rappers like Snoop Doggy Dogg and Mack 10 (cuz alot of different factors are involved with their success, not just talent alone), what about Brotha Lynch and X-Raided and all them? They talk about "Garden Blocc" in almost every song, talking about shit that only happens in Sacramento and they seem to have built a solid fan base outside of the crip listeners. How is it a white kid can appreciate music from black gangster rappers when he can't relate to any of it? Black is a dominant culture in America from music to clothes to whatever. Ice Cube can rap about white devils and white people'll buy it. All of Black Market can rap about being Garden Block Crips killing rivals and everyone will buy it. Nortenos mention "scraps" and Norte in one or two songs and it's "people can't relate to that shit! We don't understand spanish! We're not Nortays! Rap about something we can all relate to."

Shit, most homeboy rap cds don't even mention all that hard core shit, at least not on the solo albums. Only on compilations like GUN, NORTHERN GHETTO BOYZ, NORTHSIDE STORIES, and those albums weren't meant for squares. Big Tone, Sir Dyno, Woodie, rap about all kinds of things but people just want to dismiss shit.

Lynch and Raided never really holla'd out crip though or talked about killin slobs.....they talked about livin a sicc life....it was horrorcore.....it was the 90's.....that shit was a facination to hella white boys like ozzy smith or somethin....nobody cared what lynch was bangin the nigga was talkin about eatin baby nuts and feedin niggaz to his kids for supper.....controversy sells.....but when a cat gets some success and gets in the spotlight they get the pressure to make music more for everyone and then people start cryin about how they fell off....
 
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CcytzO_Loc said:
Lynch and Raided never really holla'd out crip though or talked about killin slobs.....they talked about livin a sicc life....it was horrorcore.....it was the 90's.....that shit was a facination to hella white boys like ozzy smith or somethin....nobody cared what lynch was bangin the nigga was talkin about eatin baby nuts and feedin niggaz to his kids for supper.....controversy sells.....but when a cat gets some success and gets in the spotlight they get the pressure to make music more for everyone and then people start cryin about how they fell off....
All of those Blackmarket albums were banged out. Aside from a few tracks they talked all about gangbanging in Sac. From album titles, song titles, songs themselves, you didn't have to be a gangster to know what they claimed, if you didn't know they were Garden Blocc Crips you had to be deaf and blind. It's just a double standard.
 
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man fuck it,im wit tha hyphy thang,and still ridn too that mobb shit,its just funny how hella niggaz all of sudden hopped on tha hyphy shit when it start gettin exposed,i rode wit club and mobb shit since i wuz yung.and people need to stop discriminating against club shit cuz i used to have a 1 track mind about rap and only listen to certain niggaz,and i hated radio shit back then i kinda still have that mind set but iv open my mind to all kinds of music and got a understanding about it.but did anybody hate on muthafuckaz when crunk got poppin and everybody wuz on that crunk shit????.and to me homerap fell off cuz theres a realese every so often,and i really never fucked wit darkroom only certain songs an to what my nigga from Ast told me bout niggaz from drf i aint fuckin wit none of that shit at all.and to clear up about frost gettin red rags trown at him,it wuz him and slow pain at tha wild 94.9 concert.o yea im waitin 4 a all homeboy 41510 homeboy comp cuz i really trhats tha only homeboy rap i feel besides sum niggaz from san joe and a very few cats from tha valley.