why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

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He brought up the death of Jam Master Jay today on his show and he uses his death as an oppurtunity to slam rap again. He said "hard rock groups don't have the same violence as rap, why?". Fool really has it out for rap.
 
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Punk bands come from good areas with virtually no crime, rappers most of the time come from high crime areas and have enemies and just haters all over them.
 
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D-Style said:
He brought up the death of Jam Master Jay today on his show and he uses his death as an oppurtunity to slam rap again. He said "hard rock groups don't have the same violence as rap, why?". Fool really has it out for rap.
it was a legit question. and he wasnt really slamming rap he just brought up that more people in rap are getting offed than any other form of music. and at least it was a fair and balanced discussion because he was talking with (forgot his name) a black guy who wrote a book on hip hop.

that guy was saying that the corperations are so greedy that they dont put the brakes to what these rappers say and in effect give them the green light which in turn makes the music more violent and in turn its listeners also become more violent.
 
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Re: Re: why does bill orielly always have something to say about hip hop?

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it was a legit question. and he wasnt really slamming rap he just brought up that more people in rap are getting offed than any other form of music. and at least it was a fair and balanced discussion because he was talking with (forgot his name) a black guy who wrote a book on hip hop.

that guy was saying that the corperations are so greedy that they dont put the brakes to what these rappers say and in effect give them the green light which in turn makes the music more violent and in turn its listeners also become more violent.
Have you watched this guy before? Every week he has some new topic about how bad rap is. Ludacris, Snoop, Eminem, now Jam Master Jay. He tried to clown rap the other week by bustin out with some dumb ass rhyme on his talk show.
 
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This aint teh first time Bill slammed rap/hip-hop. Remember the Ludacris contraversy?
I have no idea why Bill continues to slam rap and hip-hop. There is just as much violence and drugs going on in and around rock and alternative as there is in rap/hip-hop.
At punk concerts there are many people having mosh pits and many of the rockers get hurt in the process.
No one complained when Britney Spears pranced skantily clad n half ass naked. But they complained saying Ludacris isn't a good role model. Just doesnt sound right to me. Would you rather be teaching your 5 year old daughter to dress like that (half ass naked) or to look up to a postive role model such as Ludacris (minus the hoes).
and D youre stereotyping.
Not all punk bands come from a good area. Not all rappers come from crime stricken neighborhoods. The majority of them do. But dont stereotype. There are many rappers who front their upbringing to fit their image, to look hard, or for whatever reason they feel the need to front, image sells.
Bill is somewhat a hypocrit in my eyes. He says rap should be censored when another day he says all americans should have a freedom of speech. He blabs his oppinion that he think is truth which really is nothing but his own oppinion, on his show. Rappers say what they feel. Whats the difference?
Go read his book. Its pretty well written and alot of crazy shit about the government in there. Get some knowledge. READ!
 
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MissLady said:

and D youre stereotyping.
Not all punk bands come from a good area. Not all rappers come from crime stricken neighborhoods. The majority of them do. But dont stereotype.
hahahahahahah

How many white punk bands do you see coming out of south central, harlem, chicago (bad part), or oakland (just 2 name a few)? I'm talking about bad areas, not just poor areas. Cuz I know there's a lot of punkers that came out of poverty but I've never heard of a punk/rock/grunge whatever band or artist coming from the ghetto except for Ice-Ts group Body Count but they aren't white. I'm not stereo typing, it's known that that's how it is.
 

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I wonder why rock/ punk/ alternative band members become addicted to drugs and/ or die b/c of them? Certainly seems to be a major part of rock.
 
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D-Style said:


hahahahahahah

How many white punk bands do you see coming out of south central, harlem, chicago (bad part), or oakland (just 2 name a few)? I'm talking about bad areas, not just poor areas. Cuz I know there's a lot of punkers that came out of poverty but I've never heard of a punk/rock/grunge whatever band or artist coming from the ghetto except for Ice-Ts group Body Count but they aren't white. I'm not stereo typing, it's known that that's how it is.
POVERTY AND CRIME GO HAND AND HAND
 
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The thing is Rap groups usually promote violence towards the community, to society. Rock groups promote violence towards one self, ones personal life. My proffessor a few years ago did her thesis on this. Never got around to readinng it.
 
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MissLady said:
Go read his book. Its pretty well written and alot of crazy shit about the government in there. Get some knowledge. READ!
which one

"The Factor" (i havn't read)
"The No Spin Zone" (i have read)>>> good book

the thing about O'Reilly is he isnt afraid to attack both republicans and democrats corporate executives, whoever is doing bad shit basically. alote of people tend to think he is a conservative (republican) but he has benn bashing on the DOJ (Ashcroft) for the last three days. he bashed him along with vice president Chainey and president W. Bush for about 3 weeks during the Enron scandel. he cant stand hillary clinton and jesse jackson. fair and balanced
 

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I'LL TELL YOU WHY, CAUSE NIggAS IS BLAK AND BLAK MUSIC HAS REACHED WHITE AMERIKKKA. WHEN NIggAS START FROM NOTHIN' AND BECOME SOMETHIN' WHO CAN TELL THEM N-E-THANg? BILL OREILLY WASN'T IN THE HOOD WHEN NIggAS WAS STRUggLIN' LIVIN' WHAT THEY LIVED AND EXPERIENCIN' WHAT THEY DID. BUT NOW THE FORM OF EXPRESSION FROM THE HOOD HAS REACHED MAINSTREAM MASSES(THE PREDOMINANT ANgLO COMMUNITY) AND NOW IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
 
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Steve-O said:
not just ludacris, or jam master..snoop also...he just hating
for the second time he wasn't hating on JAM MASTER JAY he only asked the question. and let me tell you guys something Jam Master Jay obviously was no saint because no 1 gets shot execution style in the head for no reason at all.

ya he was hating on snoop and macy's but i mean macys is a family store and not just is snoop a fuckin gangsta rapper that tots guns and promotes violence, smokes pot (like a mutha at that), and to top it off he is involved in PORNO.

and as for ludicris well as far as what ive heard which is only the ones that come on the radio i wouldnt let my kids listen to that. and those are the radio cuts i would imagine the others that dont make the radio are worse.
 
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Cheeze said:
The thing is Rap groups usually promote violence towards the community, to society. Rock groups promote violence towards one self, ones personal life. My proffessor a few years ago did her thesis on this. Never got around to readinng it.
ya that ^^^^^ and it usually doesnt center around violence
 
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EDJ said:
BILL OREILLY WASN'T IN THE HOOD WHEN NIggAS WAS STRUggLIN' LIVIN' WHAT THEY LIVED AND EXPERIENCIN' WHAT THEY DID. BUT NOW THE FORM OF EXPRESSION FROM THE HOOD HAS REACHED MAINSTREAM MASSES(THE PREDOMINANT ANgLO COMMUNITY) AND NOW IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
ya, but how many people are in the hood (not many) compared to the ones that are not. so obviously once it leaves the ghetto and enters the mainstream people eyes become opened to whats going on.
 
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well everyone made the points already that i was going to...but basically i was going to say that when a rocker od's he/she is hurting himself, and no one else, but rap is directed towards their surroundings...and the reason he is raggin on rap/hip-hop and not rock/alternative etc. is because that is what is popular right now, that is what is on the charts on the top 20, thats whats sellin tens of millions of copys, and has slowly trickled down to make its way onto MTV, which is usually a sign of what is popular in youth culture...if he would have had his show 5-10 years ago instead of doing inside edition, i'm sure he'd a bitched about the grundge movement...and notice he's not talking about the rappers that aren't paid spokesman, but rather the one's trying to sell pepsi and clothes etc..to the youth of america....ya'll musta missed the interview he had w/ damon dash because he was not criticizing him for his music, but rather asked him why ws he promoting violence on his website by having a picture of himself w/ a gun when he is the #1 label of youth at the time...surprise surprise, when they checked the website the day after the interview, the gun was gone....hmmm
 
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your living in a dream world if you think punk rock doesnt center around poverty, crime, drugs, violence, etc. they are some of the biggest out casts of all! and there are many "punk rock gangs", probably just dont know any because you dont surround yourself with that crowd
 
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DeluzioN said:
your living in a dream world if you think punk rock doesnt center around poverty, crime, drugs, violence, etc. they are some of the biggest out casts of all! and there are many "punk rock gangs", probably just dont know any because you dont surround yourself with that crowd
The only punk rockers that are in gangs that I know of are skin heads/neo nazis.

What's your defenition of a "punk rock gang"? Do they claim a hood? Do they funk with other gangs?