who will win at ufc 91 Randy Couture vs Brock Lesnar?
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I don't see how he's not as much (or more) of a gimmick than Kimbo though. He's not a gimmick because he was a college wrestler? Then a "professional" wrestler... To me, he's just as one dimensional as cats say Kimbo is.
In that loss to Mir, he made a rookie mistake that probably would have been taken advantage of by anyone who's got the slightest BJJ skill. So it's not just because he was in there with top tier talent that he got caught.
Brock is just physically HUGE, lol that's the thing that makes the difference to me (persona wise and in his fights). He's still just as much a gimmick as Kimbo though.
In that loss to Mir, he made a rookie mistake that probably would have been taken advantage of by anyone who's got the slightest BJJ skill. So it's not just because he was in there with top tier talent that he got caught.
Brock is just physically HUGE, lol that's the thing that makes the difference to me (persona wise and in his fights). He's still just as much a gimmick as Kimbo though.
I was against this fight happening mainly because of Brocks experiene and I was hopeful on a Coture/Fedor fight which would have been better for the sport vs. better for PPV buys but being that Coture re-signed with UFC that dream fight was dimished and now will most likely not happen in the near future......If Mir somehow beats Nog he will most definately not beat brock the second time thats definate but i'm quite positive Big Nog poses the biggest threat against Brock but like previous posts the heavyweight division in the UFC is too thin and Brock will dominate.....
Whats your thoughts on Kurt Angle jumping in the UFC?
Whats your thoughts on Kurt Angle jumping in the UFC?
come on now, what's with all the hatin' on brock???
didn't randy beat kevin randleman in only his 4th fight in mma and took the title from him??? is anybody here gonna tell me they had this much hate for randy when he won that fight, let alone let somebody tell me they even watched mma back then...new stars are born every fight, every ppv, everytime they make a match...you may not like brock for the fact he took down the posterboy who was known for being a spoiler of sorts...he was the ultimate underdog...now he couldn't do it against brock, will there be a rematch down the road??? sure, but I don't see a different outcome because by then brock will have more experience and will be better prepared.
NOW WHO HAS BROCK BEATEN WORTH MENTIONING IN THE UFC????
RANDY "THE NATURAL" COUTURE, that's who he fucc'n beat!
didn't randy beat kevin randleman in only his 4th fight in mma and took the title from him??? is anybody here gonna tell me they had this much hate for randy when he won that fight, let alone let somebody tell me they even watched mma back then...new stars are born every fight, every ppv, everytime they make a match...you may not like brock for the fact he took down the posterboy who was known for being a spoiler of sorts...he was the ultimate underdog...now he couldn't do it against brock, will there be a rematch down the road??? sure, but I don't see a different outcome because by then brock will have more experience and will be better prepared.
NOW WHO HAS BROCK BEATEN WORTH MENTIONING IN THE UFC????
RANDY "THE NATURAL" COUTURE, that's who he fucc'n beat!
But what you're missing is that cats were calling Kimbo a gimmick BEFORE the Petruzelli fight. Shit, they were calling him a gimmick before his first official MMA bout.
Maybe I'm the only one who sees the parallels here:
Brock = One dimensional
Kimbo = One dimensional
Brock = Minimal MMA experience
Kimbo = Minimal MMA experience
Certain traits that people pointed out as to why Kimbo shouldn't be taken seriously are shared by Brock Lesnar, no? It's just odd to me that some in the MMA world look their nose down at Kimbo as if he were destroying the sport simply by participating. What the hell had Lesnar done in the MMA world before just showing up out of nowhere in the UFC one day?
Maybe I missed something... Maybe he was training MMA after he stopped wrestling?
Maybe I'm the only one who sees the parallels here:
Brock = One dimensional
Kimbo = One dimensional
Brock = Minimal MMA experience
Kimbo = Minimal MMA experience
Certain traits that people pointed out as to why Kimbo shouldn't be taken seriously are shared by Brock Lesnar, no? It's just odd to me that some in the MMA world look their nose down at Kimbo as if he were destroying the sport simply by participating. What the hell had Lesnar done in the MMA world before just showing up out of nowhere in the UFC one day?
Maybe I missed something... Maybe he was training MMA after he stopped wrestling?
The difference is that Brock's wrestling is top tier, and battle tested. He had a NCAA record of 106-5. World class wrestling skills. Whereas Kimbo was literally a street brawler off of the streets with no formal training.
I see what you mean with both Brock and Kimbo's marketability, but thats where the similarities end, IMO.
I see what you mean with both Brock and Kimbo's marketability, but thats where the similarities end, IMO.
That's my point though ...
Ultimately, it's a fight (no pun). Someone explain to me how being a decorated wrestler makes you any more MMA ready than being a "street" brawler. They both took one particular thing that they were good at and made an attempt at making an MMA career out of it.
It was just interesting to me that somehow Brock Lesnar's MMA credentials were never called into question. Maybe there's some behind the scenes shit that we don't know about it.
Ultimately, it's a fight (no pun). Someone explain to me how being a decorated wrestler makes you any more MMA ready than being a "street" brawler. They both took one particular thing that they were good at and made an attempt at making an MMA career out of it.
It was just interesting to me that somehow Brock Lesnar's MMA credentials were never called into question. Maybe there's some behind the scenes shit that we don't know about it.
