Who should Manny Pacquiao fight (since floyd doesn't want none)?
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ok clearly you are full blown retard.
Corrales got smoked by Joshua Clottey, let's not forget that.
His height may have been a bit of a problem for Pac being that pac is 5'6, but then again Corrales didn't use his height and didn't fight tall. Corrales is hella easy to hit, not very fast, and his chin was very breakable. He'd been knocked down 11 times in his career and KO'd 3 times.
Again, I love corrales, one of my all time favorite fighters without a doubt but be real man, his skills are not even close to be on teh same level as pac.
Corrales got smoked by Joshua Clottey, let's not forget that.
His height may have been a bit of a problem for Pac being that pac is 5'6, but then again Corrales didn't use his height and didn't fight tall. Corrales is hella easy to hit, not very fast, and his chin was very breakable. He'd been knocked down 11 times in his career and KO'd 3 times.
Again, I love corrales, one of my all time favorite fighters without a doubt but be real man, his skills are not even close to be on teh same level as pac.
Incorrect. There's been plenty of fighters throughout history who took solid beatings and came back to do well for themselves in the ring. It'd odd you use Mayweather Vs. Hatton considering Hatton didn't a vicious beating and came back to club the universally ranked #1 challenger to his lineal title.
LOL
Corrales was sick and had just been released from prison. Also, he was a very good boxer, not great. His defense sucked, he never used his height, and was slow on his feet. LOL @ TONY acting like Diego Corrales (my favorite fighter, btw) was a great fighter in his prime when fighting Floyd.
Big Face wants to use the excuse that Pacquiao is fighting fighters that Mayweather's already beaten...stop using Marquez as a reference point. Manny beat him, knocked him down 4 times, and did it at Marquez' NATURAL WEIGHT. Also...Mosley had been beaten, so why can Floyd fight a fighter that's been beaten, yet not Manny? Goes both ways.
Also, what the fuck are you talking about (BIG FACE) when referencing Tito vs Vargas? What do they have to do with this conversation? When did Floyd fight them? L O L
ONE MORE THING...ROFL @ Tony saying Manny is fighting fighters everyone knows he can beat. Description fits Floyd perfectly.
Corrales was sick and had just been released from prison. Also, he was a very good boxer, not great. His defense sucked, he never used his height, and was slow on his feet. LOL @ TONY acting like Diego Corrales (my favorite fighter, btw) was a great fighter in his prime when fighting Floyd.
Big Face wants to use the excuse that Pacquiao is fighting fighters that Mayweather's already beaten...stop using Marquez as a reference point. Manny beat him, knocked him down 4 times, and did it at Marquez' NATURAL WEIGHT. Also...Mosley had been beaten, so why can Floyd fight a fighter that's been beaten, yet not Manny? Goes both ways.
Also, what the fuck are you talking about (BIG FACE) when referencing Tito vs Vargas? What do they have to do with this conversation? When did Floyd fight them? L O L
ONE MORE THING...ROFL @ Tony saying Manny is fighting fighters everyone knows he can beat. Description fits Floyd perfectly.
Oh yeah, you and Redrum lose big time on this one, Chico went to the pen after that ass whoopin' he got from Floyd. You're looking to take any kind of credit from Mayweather any way you can huh... and what you mean he was sick? What did he have? Hepatits, HIV or some shit... y'all need to quit with the punkass excuses!
http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761
If Corrales was on top of his game inside the ring, he was losing control outside it. An argument with his then-wife Maria had escalated into a violent dispute, and Corrales’ court date loomed. A high-profile match with Mayweather was hurriedly put together, with some people contending that Corrales was being auctioned off--cashed out by the promoter while his career was still viable.
In the months leading up to the Mayweather fight, Corrales also found out his IBF 130-pound title had been abdicated by managers--and conveniently given to another fighter in their stable.
“I had a real-estate company at the time in Phoenix. Next thing I know, one of my friends comes on the computer and says, ‘You vacated your belt?’” said Corrales. At that time, he was having difficulty getting his weight down. “I’m starting to read this article about me giving up my title. And I felt like I didn’t have the opportunity to give up my belt. It was my right to give that up.”
Corrales sued his managers and settled in arbitration for an undisclosed sum. It was another distraction he didn’t need.
But Corrales didn’t care about any of that; he simply wanted to fight Mayweather and resolve their bitter rivalry in the ring. It was time to settle affairs with a man who’d taunted him endlessly about his personal problems with his wife and virtually everything else, too. Corrales is not quick to exchange verbal barbs; he bided his time, seething as Floyd milked every public appearance with a mounting tide of threats, insults and goading. Finally, Corrales succumbed, and the bad blood was flowing freely in both directions. With combined black and Hispanic fan bases, the bout was a natural headliner to kick off HBO’s 2001 broadcast schedule.
For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a grapefruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.
He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and sucked the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.
“I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”
The blood feud had gotten the best of Corrales, his fury clouding years of training and technique. After being picked apart in a surgical manner, Corrales was floored three times in the seventh. He kept pressing, and Mayweather kept hitting him. Finally, in the 10th round, after the fifth knockdown, his stepfather waved the bout off and saved him from moot punishment.
“What the hell are you doing?” screamed Corrales. Woods, mindful of his stepson’s pride, shook his head--mute, yet resolute. Chico would take no more.
“I would rather fell out dead in that ring than let that fight pass me by like it did,” Corrales said. “I don’t think I talked to my dad for two weeks after that. I couldn’t bring myself to talk to him about it. When it came up, I told him, ‘Hey, I felt what you did was wrong. But it’s water under the bridge.’”
If Corrales was on top of his game inside the ring, he was losing control outside it. An argument with his then-wife Maria had escalated into a violent dispute, and Corrales’ court date loomed. A high-profile match with Mayweather was hurriedly put together, with some people contending that Corrales was being auctioned off--cashed out by the promoter while his career was still viable.
In the months leading up to the Mayweather fight, Corrales also found out his IBF 130-pound title had been abdicated by managers--and conveniently given to another fighter in their stable.
“I had a real-estate company at the time in Phoenix. Next thing I know, one of my friends comes on the computer and says, ‘You vacated your belt?’” said Corrales. At that time, he was having difficulty getting his weight down. “I’m starting to read this article about me giving up my title. And I felt like I didn’t have the opportunity to give up my belt. It was my right to give that up.”
Corrales sued his managers and settled in arbitration for an undisclosed sum. It was another distraction he didn’t need.
But Corrales didn’t care about any of that; he simply wanted to fight Mayweather and resolve their bitter rivalry in the ring. It was time to settle affairs with a man who’d taunted him endlessly about his personal problems with his wife and virtually everything else, too. Corrales is not quick to exchange verbal barbs; he bided his time, seething as Floyd milked every public appearance with a mounting tide of threats, insults and goading. Finally, Corrales succumbed, and the bad blood was flowing freely in both directions. With combined black and Hispanic fan bases, the bout was a natural headliner to kick off HBO’s 2001 broadcast schedule.
For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a grapefruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.
He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and sucked the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.
“I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”
The blood feud had gotten the best of Corrales, his fury clouding years of training and technique. After being picked apart in a surgical manner, Corrales was floored three times in the seventh. He kept pressing, and Mayweather kept hitting him. Finally, in the 10th round, after the fifth knockdown, his stepfather waved the bout off and saved him from moot punishment.
“What the hell are you doing?” screamed Corrales. Woods, mindful of his stepson’s pride, shook his head--mute, yet resolute. Chico would take no more.
“I would rather fell out dead in that ring than let that fight pass me by like it did,” Corrales said. “I don’t think I talked to my dad for two weeks after that. I couldn’t bring myself to talk to him about it. When it came up, I told him, ‘Hey, I felt what you did was wrong. But it’s water under the bridge.’”
that's true but it brings up a good point. What weight class are we talking about in this fantasy fight of Pac vs Corrales?
If it's at 147 obviously Corrales would get smoked by Pacquiao.
If it's at 130 or 135, that would be the closer match up but I think Pacquiao himself has improved since he was at 130 pounds.
Regardless, my point is Pacquiao is simply a much more skilled fighter than Chico ever was.
If it's at 147 obviously Corrales would get smoked by Pacquiao.
If it's at 130 or 135, that would be the closer match up but I think Pacquiao himself has improved since he was at 130 pounds.
Regardless, my point is Pacquiao is simply a much more skilled fighter than Chico ever was.
Just to be clear, Diego Corrales is one of my favorite fighters ever...but if you're insinuating that somehow he was better than: Barrera, Morales, or Marquez.
I don't even think its worth debating with you. You didn't even address my other post, and you just wrote it off as being "Mayweather hate"
The Corrales win, IMO was Floyd's most impressive victory...and it was a dominating performance, not taking anything away from that, but a win over Chico, even a dominating one, is hardly as impressive as beating the 3 names mentioned.
I don't even think its worth debating with you. You didn't even address my other post, and you just wrote it off as being "Mayweather hate"
The Corrales win, IMO was Floyd's most impressive victory...and it was a dominating performance, not taking anything away from that, but a win over Chico, even a dominating one, is hardly as impressive as beating the 3 names mentioned.
Big Face I was talking about Berrara and Morales, two legends, all time greats and future hall of famers. Pac beat them when they were 28 and 29 years old.
It's crazy talk to say if someone loses once by knock out they are damaged goods. As I already mentioned Joe Frazier got absolutely destroyed by George Foreman and came back and gave Ali all he can handle.
There are tons of examples.
Lennox Lewis got destroyed by Oliver McCall and came back and defeated every man he stepped in the ring with since that fight.
Wlad Klitschko got destroyed and KTFO by Lamon Brewster and hasn't lost since.
Alexis Arguello was knocked out early and his career and went on to be a legend.
Likewise, Ray Mancini was KO'd by Alexis Arguello, came back, won the titles and didn't lose for again for several years.
It's crazy talk to say if someone loses once by knock out they are damaged goods. As I already mentioned Joe Frazier got absolutely destroyed by George Foreman and came back and gave Ali all he can handle.
There are tons of examples.
Lennox Lewis got destroyed by Oliver McCall and came back and defeated every man he stepped in the ring with since that fight.
Wlad Klitschko got destroyed and KTFO by Lamon Brewster and hasn't lost since.
Alexis Arguello was knocked out early and his career and went on to be a legend.
Likewise, Ray Mancini was KO'd by Alexis Arguello, came back, won the titles and didn't lose for again for several years.
^^I often think the same way. Again, using my favorite boxer an example, Bernard Hopkins lost his first career fight, won about 25 in a row, lost to roy jones, then didn't lose for over 10 years.
I think having a tough lesson early and tasting defeat can be a good thing, versus someone who may become scared of losing and avoids challenges.
I think having a tough lesson early and tasting defeat can be a good thing, versus someone who may become scared of losing and avoids challenges.
LMFAO^^^^^!! And what happened? His corner had to stop it. Mayweather was beating the snot out of Corrales and talked bad about him before he did it. Mayweather is going to do the samething to Pacquiao, so give it some time fellas. I can't wait til I hear the trash that he's going to talk about Pacquiao, it's going to be funny.
"When Floyd returns from Puerto Rico, he's going to talk trash and smash Pacman like he did Chico"