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I give a shit at the end of the day...I was more frustrated with your tagging that dumb shit to the end of half of my responses. However people percieve my "true intent" or "real views", my folks and my family know my heart. Your shit don't get to me in a real sense, it just got on my nerves for a second.
 

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I BET YOUR "REAL" FOLKS DON'T KNOW YOU SAID THAT SHIT OR THAT UNDA PRESSURE YOU BUSTED. AND THIS IS SHIT YOU CAN TYPE AND THINK ABOUT. YOU ACT LIKE YOU JUST SAID IT OUT THE BLUE AND IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. gO AHEAD AND FOOL YOURSELF AND YOUR FOLKS.
 
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EDJ said:
I BET YOUR "REAL" FOLKS DON'T KNOW YOU SAID THAT SHIT OR THAT UNDA PRESSURE YOU BUSTED.
Pressure of what??

I brought the shit up myself...

I saw my cousin in Shasta and i was like "damn where am I gonna be at if the shit goes down?" That's where it all came from. My boy was like you a fool blood we both laughed and that was it...matter of fact I asked some random nigga on the street I was like aye if u got locked up would you fuck with 415s or BGz or some shit he was like hell yea. And I was like aye would u hate on me for joining a white gang and he was like "do what you got to". This is probly the response I'll get most of the time. So in other words most black folks ain't even trippin, it's just your hypersensitivity.

AND THIS IS SHIT YOU CAN TYPE AND THINK ABOUT. YOU ACT LIKE YOU JUST SAID IT OUT THE BLUE AND IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
I rarely think about the shit I type. Even my long ass posts take maybe 10 minutes max. For everything I try and debate on you probly ain't even hearin it, it's jsut you stressin some shit that really ain't no big deal. If you said you were about to be a black muslim, who we all know is mostly racist, I wouldn't try and devaluate everything you said, or come up on your posts and bullshit.
 

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ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "Pressure of what??"

THAT PRESSURE YOU FELT AND BOTHERED YOU. THE BRAINSTORMIN' OF WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF PUT IN THAT SITUATION. THE THOUgHT OF gETTIN' RAPED CAUSE YOU FEEL YOU CAN'T HOLD YOUR OWN.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I brought the shit up myself..."

CAUSE IT WORRIED YOU THAT MUCH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I saw my cousin in Shasta and i was like "damn where am I gonna be at if the shit goes down?" That's where it all came from."

NOW YOU gOT TO LIE. I CAME WITH THAT QUESTION. YOUR COUSIN PROBABLY SCARED YOU.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My boy was like you a fool blood we both laughed and that was it...matter of fact I asked some random nigga on the street I was like aye if u got locked up would you fuck with 415s or BGz or some shit he was like hell yea. . And I was like aye would u hate on me for joining a white gang and he was like "do what you got to". This is probly the response I'll get most of the time. So in other words most black folks ain't even trippin, it's just your hypersensitivity."

YOU SHOULD REFRAIN FROM USIN' THE "N" WORD FOR REAL. CAUSE YOU DON'T DESERVE TO TRY TO USE IT IN A EMBRACIN' TYPE OF WAY, CAUSE YOU SHOWED YOU CAPABLE OF USIN' IT IN IT'S ORIgINAL FORM.
BUT HAS YOUR BOY BEEN TO JAIL? EITHA HE WEAK, A SELL-OUT OR PERCEIVES THANgS IN A DIFFERENT LIgHT. REgARDLESS, YOUR BOY THINKS IT'S ALL gRAVY WHEN IT AIN'T OR HE gULLIBLE LIKE YOU AND AIN'T LOOKED IN DEPTH. THAT OTHA NIggA PROBABLY DON'T gIVE A FUK OR THINK WHITE gANgS ARE WIggAS OR SOME SHIT AND WOULDN'T LOOK DOWN ON HIM. REgARDLESS, SOMETHIN' ABOUT THEM BAY ASS NIggAS. CAUSE WHERE I'M FROM, NIggAS DON'T PLAY THAT SHIT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I rarely think about the shit I type."

THAT TELLS A LOT. AND I THOUgHT I COULDN'T LOSE MORE RESPECT FOR YOU.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Even my long ass posts take maybe 10 minutes max. For everything I try and debate on you probly ain't even hearin it, it's jsut you stressin some shit that really ain't no big deal."

THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. YOU THINK IT AIN'T A BIg DEAL AND IT IS. THAT JUST MAKES ME WONDER HOW MANY MUTHA-FUKAS LIKE YOU ARE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. YOU ARE A REASON WHY A NIggA LIKE ME DON'T TRUST OR EMBRACE THAT MANY WHITE PEOPLE. IF IT CAME DOWN TO IT, YOU WOULD BETRAY ME. YOU WILL ACT LIKE YOU DOWN, AND EVEN BE EMBRACED, BUT YOU WON'T EVA BE A MAN WITH THE TRUE ESSENCE OF A BLAK MAN THAT DESERVES A BLAK WOMAN AND HAVE REAL KNOWLEDgE OF SELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you said you were about to be a black muslim, who we all know is mostly racist, I wouldn't try and devaluate everything you said, or come up on your posts and bullshit."

MUTHA-FUKAS ALREADY ASSUME I'M A MUSLIM, FOLLOW THEY WAYS, OR THAT I AM RACIST. BUT I AIN'T. I'M ME. REgARDLESS, IF I'M A MUSLIM IN JAIL THEN I'M AN EDUCATED BROTHA. DON'T COMPARE THAT TO SOME RACIST BIKERS THAT FEEL THAT A BLAK MAN IS BENEATH HIM AND SHOULDN'T EXIST. YOU REALLY STRETCHIN' IT THERE.
PLUS IF I WAS A MUSLIM OR RACIST, IT DON'T MATTER CAUSE YOU THE ONE COMIN' INTO MY WORLD, AND WANNA BE DOWN, AND LISTENIN' TO MUSIC WE CREATED, NURTURED, AND DOMINATE. NOBODY ASKED YOU TO. YOU CAME WHETHA I WAS RACIST OR NOT. YOU EMBRACED IT. I DIDN'T COME ALL WHITE WASHED TO AN IRON MAIDEN MESSAgE BOARD AND KISSED YOUR ASS.
IF I DID, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN ARgUMENT.
 

SOLO

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I rarely think about the shit I type.
Seriously?

I think you're just saying that because you don't want to be held accountable for what you type on this board. You believe that if you "rarely think" before posting then you don't have to answer to what you write. Either you back your own statements or you're talking outta both sides of your mouth, wasting our time and showing your true colors...
 
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PLUS IF I WAS A MUSLIM OR RACIST, IT DON'T MATTER CAUSE YOU THE ONE COMIN' INTO MY WORLD, AND WANNA BE DOWN, AND LISTENIN' TO MUSIC WE CREATED, NURTURED, AND DOMINATE. NOBODY ASKED YOU TO. YOU CAME WHETHA I WAS RACIST OR NOT. YOU EMBRACED IT. I DIDN'T COME ALL WHITE WASHED TO AN IRON MAIDEN MESSAgE BOARD AND KISSED YOUR ASS.
IF I DID, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN ARgUMENT.
Wrong. I give a shit. I came on this site to peep some independant Bay rappers, and happened on thtis board. My life happened to me and my identity is my own. My commenting on the fact that being out of touch with urban culture was a fine line was more a reflection than a complaint.

You can ignore my shit, or put some bullshit comment after everything I say, but in the end, people will still read it. That's all that really matters. You're tryin to make this board about social groups and all kinds of bullshit. You are not the Black representative for this board even if you think you are. Unfortunately for your mindset, all minorites don't share a brain, so let it be up to everyone else here to judge my intent, instead of spamming my shit with garbage.

And even if every Black person or every other person on this board agrees with your shit, because labeling me is an easy way to dismiss what I say, there's still folks out there who will read it.

So I'm not goin anywhere. Might as well get used to ignoring my shit.
 
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SOLO said:
Seriously?

I think you're just saying that because you don't want to be held accountable for what you type on this board. You believe that if you "rarely think" before posting then you don't have to answer to what you write. Either you back your own statements or you're talking outta both sides of your mouth, wasting our time and showing your true colors...
My true colors lmfao. Why don't you tell me about my true colors Solo? What I meant by that is not that I don't think about the shit I type, but more that it is a stream of consciousness. I rarely sit back and review what I'm saying over and over - I speak my piece, possibly change a little here and there or proofread, but I don't heavily engage in the business of sitting in front of my post like "Hmmmm...."

Hold me 120 percent accountable for the shit I type on this board. But don't look for a hidden message in ideas or statements of little or no validity, substantiative implication, or intent. This type of selective, conspiratorial interpretation seems to be something people such as yourself use to great effect.
 

EDJ

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ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "Wrong. I give a shit."

WHAT'S WRONg AND WHAT DON'T YOU gIVE A SHIT ABOUT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I came on this site to peep some independant Bay rappers, and happened on thtis board."

BUT WHAT IS BAY RAP BASED ON?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My life happened to me and my identity is my own."

YOU HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR. SO WHY WOULD A PERSON SUCH AS YOURSELF INTERMINgLE WITH RACIST EVEN THOUgH THEY AgAINST ALL THAT YOU ARE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My commenting on the fact that being out of touch with urban culture was a fine line was more a reflection than a complaint."

WHO SAID N-E-THANg ABOUT YOU BEIN' OUT OF TOUCH WITH URBAN CULTURE? OR ARE YOU USIN' THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO BETRAY THE ONES YOU WERE RAISED AROUND WITH?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You can ignore my shit, or put some bullshit comment after everything I say, but in the end, people will still read it."

gOOD FOR THEM. AND THEY WILL ALSO READ MY SHIT AND BE MORE INFORMED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That's all that really matters. You're tryin to make this board about social groups and all kinds of bullshit."

WHAT YOU MEAN SOCIAL gROUPS? AND WHAT OTHA BULLSHIT? I'M JUST ME AND DO WHAT I DO.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "You are not the Black representative for this board even if you think you are."

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THE DEMOgRAPHICS OF THIS SITE AND ALL OF IT DON'T REFLECT WHAT'S REALLY OUT THERE OR WHAT THE CULTURE OF THIS MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT. I BRINg A BALANCE AND A SENSE OF INTEgRITY, THAT WAY THIS MUSIC WON'T DEVIATE COMPLETELY LIKE YOUR MIND FRAME.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Unfortunately for your mindset, all minorites don't share a brain, so let it be up to everyone else here to judge my intent, instead of spamming my shit with garbage."

THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. SO WHAT INTENT DO YOU HAVE? BUT I'LL LET THEM JUDgE, READ, SEE, OR WHATEVA, BUT FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. SO WHAT IS THIS gARBAgE YOU SAY I'M SPAMMIN' YOU WITH?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And even if every Black person or every other person on this board agrees with your shit, because labeling me is an easy way to dismiss what I say, there's still folks out there who will read it."

WHAT DID I LABEL YOU? BUT YOU CAN NOT SPEAK ON SOMETHIN' THAT YOU WERE READY TO BETRAY. YOU gAVE UP THAT RIgHT BY SHOWIN' YOUR TRUE COLORS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So I'm not goin anywhere. Might as well get used to ignoring my shit."

YOU MUST THINK I'M ONE OF THESE LIL WEAK ASS NERDS THAT JUST gONNA PUT YOU ON IgNORE. I gIVES A FUK. ONCE YOU SPEAK ON SOMETHIN' THAT YOU gAVE UP YOUR RIgHT TO, I'LL BE THERE TO QUESTION IT AND YOU.
 
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ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "Wrong. I give a shit."

WHAT'S WRONg AND WHAT DON'T YOU gIVE A SHIT ABOUT?
The approval of peoples on this board.

BUT WHAT IS BAY RAP BASED ON?
Bay area urban culture, which is multidimensional and multiracial...not just simply "black". Which is why asians out in TL and DC and whiteboys in Mateo and San Jo be sayin nigga and dont get checked on it, or why half the peoples in the sco town use blood 3 times a sentence and it ain't gang related. It's a different climate...I don't know if you really knowledgeable on it.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My life happened to me and my identity is my own."

YOU HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR. SO WHY WOULD A PERSON SUCH AS YOURSELF INTERMINgLE WITH RACIST EVEN THOUgH THEY AgAINST ALL THAT YOU ARE?
Did I ever intermingle with them? I said if my back was against the wall and my life was on the line I would consider joining. But my view of prison gang demographics was incorrect. From what I heard there was simply gang members and those who get fucked up, and no inbetween. From what I know now you can choose to mind your own business and get by.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "My commenting on the fact that being out of touch with urban culture was a fine line was more a reflection than a complaint."

WHO SAID N-E-THANg ABOUT YOU BEIN' OUT OF TOUCH WITH URBAN CULTURE? OR ARE YOU USIN' THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO BETRAY THE ONES YOU WERE RAISED AROUND WITH?
You made an earlier mention of me "whining" about not being accepted by black people.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You can ignore my shit, or put some bullshit comment after everything I say, but in the end, people will still read it."

gOOD FOR THEM. AND THEY WILL ALSO READ MY SHIT AND BE MORE INFORMED
If informed means "going on some bullshit that was stretched out and based on little or no evidence", ok, they'll be informed to the fullest.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That's all that really matters. You're tryin to make this board about social groups and all kinds of bullshit."

WHAT YOU MEAN SOCIAL gROUPS? AND WHAT OTHA BULLSHIT? I'M JUST ME AND DO WHAT I DO.
Trying to polarize the rest of the board with you and summarily discount people based on "whitewashed" or "racist" labels. Unfortunately, those labels hold power, and do not need to be proven or supported before they are thrown out. It's the easiest way to discount people's opinions and not have to worry about having to debate them.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You are not the Black representative for this board even if you think you are."

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THE DEMOgRAPHICS OF THIS SITE AND ALL OF IT DON'T REFLECT WHAT'S REALLY OUT THERE OR WHAT THE CULTURE OF THIS MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT.
Of course. It's flooded with whiteboys from the burbs. This web site is the closest to the hood some people have got, and they try and pick up the culture through message boards. This became obvious to me when i first got on the site and the forums, just the way some people talked, their names, etc. yellin out "whiteboy".

I BRINg A BALANCE AND A SENSE OF INTEgRITY, THAT WAY THIS MUSIC WON'T DEVIATE COMPLETELY LIKE YOUR MIND FRAME.
Of course all opinions contribute to the discussion. You might be the closest on here to the everyday urban black folks in the hood, but that don't necessarily make you their representative. Every mothafucka is an individual, and you twistin the facts that you tryin to educate people about.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Unfortunately for your mindset, all minorites don't share a brain, so let it be up to everyone else here to judge my intent, instead of spamming my shit with garbage."

THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. SO WHAT INTENT DO YOU HAVE?
To come out here and put out ideas, bounce back, hear opinions.

BUT I'LL LET THEM JUDgE, READ, SEE, OR WHATEVA, BUT FOR THEM TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. SO WHAT IS THIS gARBAgE YOU SAY I'M SPAMMIN' YOU WITH?
What is the whole picture though? That because I thought you would get killed if you didnt click up that I probly would have joined a racist white prison gang? Or the fact that I didn't know you can mind your business and get by since I never been to state or federal?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And even if every Black person or every other person on this board agrees with your shit, because labeling me is an easy way to dismiss what I say, there's still folks out there who will read it."

WHAT DID I LABEL YOU?
Aryan racist hick inbred white packerwood mothafucka...haha

BUT YOU CAN NOT SPEAK ON SOMETHIN' THAT YOU WERE READY TO BETRAY. YOU gAVE UP THAT RIgHT BY SHOWIN' YOUR TRUE COLORS.
You can't tell nobodys true colors on the internet.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So I'm not goin anywhere. Might as well get used to ignoring my shit."

YOU MUST THINK I'M ONE OF THESE LIL WEAK ASS NERDS THAT JUST gONNA PUT YOU ON IgNORE. I gIVES A FUK. ONCE YOU SPEAK ON SOMETHIN' THAT YOU gAVE UP YOUR RIgHT TO, I'LL BE THERE TO QUESTION IT AND YOU. [/B]
But see you spend energy tryin to raise the ghost of the white devil from the dead where it don't exist that could be spent on actual debate. Do what you got to, I can't stop you, but what is your priorities? Labeling white people or participating in the board?
 

SOLO

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My true colors lmfao. Why don't you tell me about my true colors Solo?

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Hold me 120 percent accountable for the shit I type on this board. But don't look for a hidden message in ideas or statements of little or no validity, substantiative implication, or intent. This type of selective, conspiratorial interpretation seems to be something people such as yourself use to great effect.
I don't hold you more accountable for your statements than I do anyone else on the board. I'm just working with the words you've provided. I don't see any hidden message or conspiracy in what you've written. What I do see is support for my original typology of "white rap fans." My original post stated:

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I'd say there are two camps...those who integrate rap/hiphop/"urban culture" into their repetoires of behavior but continue to cherish white supremacy......and those who, perhaps with assistance from their exposure to the culture, come to realize that they are not white at all...that they never were in the first place...
See what I said about cherishing white supremacy? What does it signify to yourself when you feel you'd have to join the AB to survive? You have insisted in your past posts that you are "white" and I have been unable to shake you from this illusion. So I'll try another approach. Let's back up to the original question about having to join a prison gang. You feel that you probably have to click up with a gang just to survive. That seems reasonable. Now here's a new question. What would prohibit you from clicking up with the blacks? And what would prevent you from clicking up with the Latinos?

Please don't take this as an attack...it's not about me busting your chops on a message board, me trying to pin labels on you or anyone gaining acceptance from anyone else on here. Like I stated in my post on the "Degrees" thread, it's about your relationship to hip hop and the oppressed.
 
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i think its funny how EDJ stabs at already dead every post about goin AB in the lockup, he wouldnt really be racist itd just be to keep him outta trouble until he was in the clear. its like your using already deads words and tryin to apply it to everyone thats white. you also say that you dont like the anglo subculture or the mainstream of things, well neither do i, i think its boring thats why i mix it up with all sorts of people. you use alot of logical fallacies in everything you write. (*hint*just because the word logical is in that phrase doesnt mean its a good thing, im assuming that you dont know this because you probly never went far enough in english classes)