WEEK 3- 49ERS VS. VIKINGS

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Previous reports suggest that Frank Gore could miss at least two weeks due to a high ankle strain (not sprain, according to the team), but Matt Maiocco of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat says the running back will be re-evaluated on Monday. Maiocco also notes that the 49ers may consider promoting Kory Sheets from the practice squad.

Glen Coffee stands to start if Gore is out, and Sheets would provide extra depth. The 49ers play two more games before the Week 6 bye.

Cory Sheets is a sav, I like him better than Clayton he should do well if he is going to be brought up.

What a fucking game, If Smith hits Farve instead of diving too early and missing Niners win. He was right there and took a gamble and dove to early knowing its a prevent defense and Farve was going to take his time.

I don't blame him fully, Bly could of intercepted the pass that he dropped and took it all the way to seal the game. Offensive line and Coffe should of made a first down and drained that fuckin clock. We beat ourselves. "Cya in the playoffs bitches", same shit I was thinking Singletary announces lol.

 

[Rossibreath]

U lost on a favre miracle. cant really blame any1, maybe roman cuz he sux i guess.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

We can sit here all day and micro analyze every play and come up with different outcomes. Yes, Roman is a tool, but to say he could have cost us the game is a big "what if". Let`s just say he does lay a hit on Lewis, which I agree that he should have, but there isn`t any reasoning to think that a hit would have jarred the ball loose. Vernon Davis got hammered earlier in the game in between 2 Viking defenders and came down with the ball. Just saying.

He didn't need to jar the ball loose. All he had to do was nudge the guy 2 inches so his foot landed out of bounds. The guy had to go up to catch it, so it's not like he would have been hard to move a few inches as he was already in mid-air. There is no more force-out rule so that would be perfectly legal AND it would have saved the game. Jarring the ball loose was not needed.

 

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Yes he could have and probably would have.

He's only kept around for special teams purposes. He BLOWS as a runner. That's why they're really thinking about bringing Kory Sheets off the practice squad, cuz Robinson is GARBAGE.

Exactly, Robinson plays his ass off in special teams though, but im sure given the opportunity Sheets can do the same if not better than Robinson, I would say the only thing Robinson has over him is experience and with that comes field awareness, but with that blown special teams play were Harvin ran that shit, made the Niners special teams look weak, nobody had a chance on that play.

Sheets in Robinson out.

 

[CNI]

After watching this team change cultures from one of pure league dominance, back to door mats from the 1970`s, I see far too many positives with this teams play to be the least bit upset about the loss. Yes, a win would have been better, but sometimes, it`s better to take a loss like this early in the season for them to learn from. I`d much rather them learn from a week 3 loss, instead of later on. Trust, with this loss, and losing with :02 on the clock, I bet we see an even more focused group next game.

This team is learning that killer aspect again. Learning how to close out games and protect a lead. Until this year, all they used to do would play not to be totally embarrassed. We needed this so coach can now take them to the next level.
That killer instinct.

 

[TLALOC]

On our last 3 and out drive, when if we had gotten a 1st down, we could have controlled the clock and ensured victory. Instead, we tried to run the ball 3 times. These are the situations where Raye has to be more creative, and had we mixed it up some, who knows. But again though, more "what ifs".

This right here is what i think cost us the game!!!! Should of thrown the ball @ and go for the 1st down, i mean come on with Gore out we couldnt establish a running game, what made coach think this drive would of made a difference....Still proud of my niners (we came a long way) even though they cost me money on this game.........Fuckin Favre!!!!



edit - I agreee 100% with what your saying CNI!!!

 

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He didn't need to jar the ball loose. All he had to do was nudge the guy 2 inches so his foot landed out of bounds. The guy had to go up to catch it, so it's not like he would have been hard to move a few inches as he was already in mid-air. There is no more force-out rule so that would be perfectly legal AND it would have saved the game. Jarring the ball loose was not needed.

Roman nudged him but it still wasn't enough, he got beat on that play thats why he couldn't do his usual hit. His covarge has always been horrible though I think his time up.

 

[CNI]

He didn't need to jar the ball loose. All he had to do was nudge the guy 2 inches so his foot landed out of bounds. The guy had to go up to catch it, so it's not like he would have been hard to move a few inches as he was already in mid-air. There is no more force-out rule so that would be perfectly legal AND it would have saved the game. Jarring the ball loose was not needed.

I`m in agreement that he should have done something. He`s a tool regardless. Looked like he was about to take a picture for the media and shit. Not sticking up for the cat at all.

I`m just saying, I`m not going to focus everything on one play. There were a few little things we could have done better as a group to win the game. If the team continues to grow, continues to learn that killer instinct, we don`t make those mistakes, we win.

That`s why I`m still proud and excited. I see the growth and see the reemergence coming. I can take this loss right now and still feel good about it. Next year? Not so much. But right now is still the growing stage, the transformation of what is to come.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

The fact that we went 0-11 on third down conversions means we probably couldn't have done much worse with the running game with Robinson or Sheets. That stat right there is the difference in ball and clock control and the biggest reason we couldn't pull it out on that crafty bastard Favre. Bottom line is we tried to rely to heavily on the defense and we got stung. I hope Coffee steps his game up and maybe Sheets might help (If Robinson can't help), but if we can't run the ball, we are in big trouble. Davis showed out, but his history hasn't proved he'll be reliable on a consistent basis. And from what I saw, Hill still doesn't have chemistry with our Wide Receiving core.

On my last note, Raye definitely pulled a late game Nolan tactic. We should have at least mixed in one pass and showed some confidence in Hill to get 4 yards. If anything Singletary and Raye showed quite the opposite. I mean I understand the logic of running the clock out, but if Coffee wasn't getting it done, we could have thrown at least one Play Action pass in the mix. Either way, if it didn't work, we were gonna have to punt with lots of time left on the clock.

 

[JReezelle]

Have a seat, and welcome to my world lol

naw bruh our team ain't in the same world as the seacocks.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

Roman nudged him but it still wasn't enough,

He was barely able to touch him with his arm because he went up like a jackass when he was clearly out of position. He's always out of position. That's why he NEVER makes INTs. The way that ball was coming in, he had NO WAY of getting his hand on it. He should not have left his feet to begin with, and if he had any awareness at all he would have known they were in the back of the endzone and he could have done exactly what I said he should have done. Most defenders in the league would have done it. Instead, he tries to go up for the ball when he had no chance of touching it. Roman is whack as fuck.

 

[CNI]

The fact that we went 0-11 on third down conversions means we probably couldn't have done much worse with the running game with Robinson or Sheets. That stat right there is the difference in ball and clock control and the biggest reason we couldn't pull it out on that crafty bastard Favre. Bottom line is we tried to rely to heavily on the defense and we got stung. I hope Coffee steps his game up and maybe Sheets might help (If Robinson can't help), but if we can't run the ball, we are in big trouble. Davis showed out, but his history hasn't proved he'll be reliable on a consistent basis. And from what I saw, Hill still doesn't have chemistry with our Wide Receiving core

Can`t blame the lack of running the ball on Coffee. The Vikings D has been in the top 3 of run defense the past few years. Their D is strong up the middle. If Gore doesn`t get injured, no one can say that he would have done much better, let alone Robinson.

But many of those 3 and outs were too conservative of drives. Raye needs to mix it up a little more to keep defenses more honest. I understand wanting to ground and pound, but you also have to switch it up to what the defense is giving you. I thought we started to do that, but when we got the lead back with time running down, it`s almost like Raye lost faith in the offense and just wanted to run the ball.

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

On my last note, Raye definitely pulled a late game Nolan tactic. We should have at least mixed in one pass and showed some confidence in Hill to get 4 yards. If anything Singletary and Raye showed quite the opposite. I mean I understand the logic of running the clock out, but if Coffee wasn't getting it done, we could have thrown at least one Play Action pass in the mix. Either way, if it didn't work, we were gonna have to punt with lots of time left on the clock.

I agree Raye should have mixed it up on that last 3-and-out when we were trying to run out the clock, but I don't think we should have passed. A blown pass would have fucked us over (not that it mattered looking back, but they didn't know that then). He should have tried a toss or some trickery. Running up the gut against that D-Line was STUPID. Not to mention very predictable. I think a safe pass like a short screen would have been acceptable, but like I said, that's easy for us to say looking back on the result. Most OCs would have done the same thing as Raye did, run, run, run. Although most OCs probably wouldn't have run it up the gut.

 

[NAMO]

this is a close up of the last play (taken from niners forum I didn't write over it)

 

[FATAL NYGHTMARE]

this is a close up of the last play (taken from niners forum I didn't write over it)

Exactly. Why did he leave his feet? That ball is nowhere near his reach. He should have focused on forcing the guy out of bounds.

FUCK Roman. I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, but he's garbage and shouldn't be on this team.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

If that's the case, Raye did what he thought was best and stuck to his game plan no matter the outcome and you can't blame him either. He showed confidence in the run and it played out how it played out. Bottom line is we showed remarkable courage under fire. I'm not gonna blame Roman for one play. If we cover better on that last play, if we cover better on the kick off, if we run better etc. etc. There was no one play that lost us the game. We need to work on all aspects to be more efficient. I just say our defense gave us the best effort and got hung out to dry because we could not keep them off the field. I won't just put it on the running game. I think we need our QB and recievers to get in sync and make that defense play more honest on the line.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

Instead of harping on Roman for a sec, let's go back to the kick off where Harvin goes untouched... To me that is way more unacceptanle than Roman missing that coverage on that play. Because honestly Favre would have never been in position to get one play off if we had covered better leading up to that last play. We had him in a few 3rd and longs and let him off the hook.

 

[NAMO]

Instead of harping on Roman for a sec, let's go back to the kick off where Harvin goes untouched... To me that is way more unacceptanle than Roman missing that coverage on that play. Because honestly Favre would have never been in position to get one play off if we had covered better leading up to that last play. We had him in a few 3rd and longs and let him off the hook.

that was depressing

 

[CNI]

Or, instead of focusing on anything negative about the game, let`s start talking about the positives?

How about going into the Metrodome and taking the Vikings all the way down until the :02 mark?

How about the play of the defense to keep AP in check most of the game, outside of 1 breakout run?

I`m not going to get into everything right this moment, (need to go light a booboo fire) but there are far more positives to take from this loss instead of negative. Let the Vikings focus on the shit they did wrong to allow us the chance for victory with :03 left in their house.

 

[MR. CLEEN]

I definitely agree with giving them props for their courage especially as the under dog. At the same time to become an elite winner you have to taste defeat and experience loss and be able to learn from it. Hopefully they're as adamant about discussing their shortcomings as we have been. With this being Singletary's official rookie coaching year, Singletary is definitely instilling his will and winning spirit into our players and it is showing, so I won't be as hard on him and Raye regarding their play calling, especially since this team is not filled with A-List players on Offense.