Unarmed Teen Shot To Death By Police In St. Louis While His Hands Were Up
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Its clear from that graph that at some point someone decided to completely change the way the mental health system works and the way the prison system works and decided that its better to lock people up. It is clear that this happened, and also, and maybe im wrong, I doubt that ANYONE was asked what they though about this great idea.
And this very policy has a HUGE impact on our society today, just the way that it ended up structuring everything.
The sad reality is that some of the most important issues, the most crucial policies, are not even debated amongst the citizens and they are never given a chance to voice their opinion or give their vote.
And this very policy has a HUGE impact on our society today, just the way that it ended up structuring everything.
The sad reality is that some of the most important issues, the most crucial policies, are not even debated amongst the citizens and they are never given a chance to voice their opinion or give their vote.
this is fucked up, police are fucked everywhere on this planet. rip to Michael Brown and the other brother wit the shank they assassinated a couple miles away from where michael brown was assassinated, condolences go out to there families, its fucked up.
the mentality of cops over yourside of things & UK isn't that diffrent, in general worldwide in principle, its generally the same type of trash that join police, goody too shoe cunts, punk loser devils that have been bullied by society & there getting there own back or wannabe corrupt loser punks that can't get it on and poppin any other type of way, you get me
I from London, UK brudda that has lived in the us & z in Africa & the problem you have in the states is the racist and brutality cops know racism & brutality is instutionalized by the state, it comes from the top, the president. Us pigs know they can get away wit killing black peeps & Latino brothers & sisters & they will get away wit it & the courts will back em up, you get me, simple as that. pigs need regulation from the state & courts otherwise feds will do what they want based on personality m.o an type, you see what I'm sayin, calm type, calm, punk, brutalty, racist, more devil shit, either way, mentally they know they have the system backing, you get me, you see what sayin.
riots, people power and a mass coordinated grassroots movement linked wit on a level politicians, community leaders, public figures, together, linked up, shooting in the same direction, you get me, wit relentless public and private pressure is in my opinion, you get me, you see what I'm sayin, is the best way to deal wit this savage racist state brutality you bruddas an sisters in the us are going through, you see what im sayin
the revolution is in ferguson, fuck the police, big up ferguson, Missouri peeps, there reppin, hardbody, remind of london niggas an that, salute, salute, salute, 21 gunshot salute, rip to the fallen souljahs & shout out in principle to al Sharpton, talib kweli, young jeezy, killer mike & j Cole, fuck the police
the mentality of cops over yourside of things & UK isn't that diffrent, in general worldwide in principle, its generally the same type of trash that join police, goody too shoe cunts, punk loser devils that have been bullied by society & there getting there own back or wannabe corrupt loser punks that can't get it on and poppin any other type of way, you get me
I from London, UK brudda that has lived in the us & z in Africa & the problem you have in the states is the racist and brutality cops know racism & brutality is instutionalized by the state, it comes from the top, the president. Us pigs know they can get away wit killing black peeps & Latino brothers & sisters & they will get away wit it & the courts will back em up, you get me, simple as that. pigs need regulation from the state & courts otherwise feds will do what they want based on personality m.o an type, you see what I'm sayin, calm type, calm, punk, brutalty, racist, more devil shit, either way, mentally they know they have the system backing, you get me, you see what sayin.
riots, people power and a mass coordinated grassroots movement linked wit on a level politicians, community leaders, public figures, together, linked up, shooting in the same direction, you get me, wit relentless public and private pressure is in my opinion, you get me, you see what I'm sayin, is the best way to deal wit this savage racist state brutality you bruddas an sisters in the us are going through, you see what im sayin
the revolution is in ferguson, fuck the police, big up ferguson, Missouri peeps, there reppin, hardbody, remind of london niggas an that, salute, salute, salute, 21 gunshot salute, rip to the fallen souljahs & shout out in principle to al Sharpton, talib kweli, young jeezy, killer mike & j Cole, fuck the police
I can't disagree. I was too lazy to look up when crack hit the streets. There was also the recession around that time. I'm sure those things led to the incarceration rate going sky high. I'm really curious to see why the mentally ill rate dropped in terms of those that were getting treatment.
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Ronald Regan pulled the plug on mental illness treatment in the early 80's as California governor right as the crack epidemic hit.
This was a direct impact to the people who needed treatment, & instead hit the streets homeless, & went straight to the baserock.
In addition to closing the facilities, he also suspended financial aide for the mentally ill.
My uncle worked at Agnews Hospital at the time, which is now the back end of Cisco Systems campus & partially a golf course now.
Everyone got laid off & the facility closed down, it was low income housing for maybe 15 years til they bulldozed the place & they did the same thing to treatment facilities across California.
Fuck Regan.
This was a direct impact to the people who needed treatment, & instead hit the streets homeless, & went straight to the baserock.
In addition to closing the facilities, he also suspended financial aide for the mentally ill.
My uncle worked at Agnews Hospital at the time, which is now the back end of Cisco Systems campus & partially a golf course now.
Everyone got laid off & the facility closed down, it was low income housing for maybe 15 years til they bulldozed the place & they did the same thing to treatment facilities across California.
Fuck Regan.
my dad is mentally ill. Homicidal Schizophrenia. the typa dude that will kill you and (maybe) realize thats bad (maybe) when/if he were to stop trippin. he's dealt with police alot, and all those times the police knew what they were dealing with, in different shades. maybe not knowing that he can kill them, but knowing he was crazy. i strapped my self with 2 steak knives back in like 4th or 5th grade ready to kill or be killed. cops (in some cities more than others) deal with that typa shit all the time except they get guns so they're lucky. specifically in Stockton, the first State Insane Asylum was here and fucked. the Nazi's even took sterilization game from the "hospital". they released patients to the streets through out the 70's up until it closed in the mid 90's. throw that on top of the crack that hit here in the mid 80's and a major crank problem thats been here decades before most of the country and you got generations of police that have and will see many shades of insane. you cant survive them all. if its me or a crazy guy, im choosin me g.
thats good info but kinda misleading. a huge chunk of those patients probably shouldn't have been in the hospitals anyway. but it was a money grab. some of these hospitals in Cali been around almost 100 years before the chart. ill or non-ill, you wouldnt want to be in there.
i dont think they should have closed, but they needed major re-structuring. like everything else the government runs.
Partially what Rasan said was right though, because the crack seemed to only infiltrate the black communities. Crack wasn't really ever a white problem, whereas coke just a few years before was seen as a rich man's drug in a lot of ways. Crack destroyed the inner cities of Detroit and NYC at a time when the economy was already crap. Then they found out that fools were banking it pretty hard from selling crack, and drug charges came with a much bigger penalty. There's fools that are locked up forever on their first drug charge with no chance at parole, yet people have killed dudes and can get out in 25 years, maybe less. Makes no damn sense.
I hope your father is getting whatever real help and support is available to him. I am very familiar with the mental health system in this country and the history behind it. In the late 90s, I worked for a state medicaid health plan at one time and dealt directly with smi patients. Aside from that, I have also known and seen people get caught up in the mental health system that didn't really belong in it. I have also personally known and seen people take that route thinking it was better to be in the state hospital than do their prison time for their crimes, and find out that that wasn't a smart choice.
At the end of the day, when the police get a call that some crazy man just stole two sodas from a convenience store, set them on the sidewalk, and is pacing around versus running away with the stolen goods, it is obvious the suspect is not in his right mind i.e. has mental health issues. That in no way excuses the police, who are funded by the taxpayers, and who have non-lethal tactical equipment made available to them (as well as hours of training on how to utilize non-lethal tactical weaponry), to default automatically to lethal force- its inexcusable.
The police in this country have had a license to kill basically since their inception, their publicly funded inception that were called slave patrols. Allegedly, we no longer have slavery in this country, allegedly we are all free men. Along with that, technology and the international desire of human rights, have far surpassed the neanderthal ways of law enforcement dealing with complex issues, such as murdering everyone in sight, innocent or guilty, threatening or complying.
It is the overall complacency of the US population in conjunction with our apathy, that continues the cycle of police immunity by way of law, policy, and procedure. It doesn't have to be this way though, we the people allow it to be.
At the end of the day, when the police get a call that some crazy man just stole two sodas from a convenience store, set them on the sidewalk, and is pacing around versus running away with the stolen goods, it is obvious the suspect is not in his right mind i.e. has mental health issues. That in no way excuses the police, who are funded by the taxpayers, and who have non-lethal tactical equipment made available to them (as well as hours of training on how to utilize non-lethal tactical weaponry), to default automatically to lethal force- its inexcusable.
The police in this country have had a license to kill basically since their inception, their publicly funded inception that were called slave patrols. Allegedly, we no longer have slavery in this country, allegedly we are all free men. Along with that, technology and the international desire of human rights, have far surpassed the neanderthal ways of law enforcement dealing with complex issues, such as murdering everyone in sight, innocent or guilty, threatening or complying.
It is the overall complacency of the US population in conjunction with our apathy, that continues the cycle of police immunity by way of law, policy, and procedure. It doesn't have to be this way though, we the people allow it to be.
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seriously stillhustlin is a huge fag but nailed that one in the butt.
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