UFC 143

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Apr 26, 2002
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For all u sayin he ran, he DID. Couple times matter of fact. Diaz pressing u bacc, u feel urself gettin close to the cage. He puts the pressure in u. U slipp out, while countering, moving lateral, with feet goin side to side, he baccs off u square up. That happened MOST. Ok, same situation but this time u slip out, go lateral, feet goin side to side, he still on ur line, do u keep lateral when he's on u? Feet side to side? No. Naturally u wanna create the most space to square up. U can't do that goin lateral against the cage when hes on u. U gonna stay in that same situation AGAINST the cage where Diaz strentgh is. U goin sideways, he goin forward, whos movin slower? The guy movin wit feet side to side. So to create that space, so to square bacc up ur gonna wanna run "forward", hence "jog" for a second to get the fight bacc in the center of the cage where Diaz has no strentgh. Anybody thinking I'm bullshittin, watch the fight again wit wut I jus said.
 
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he was runnin. i wont even argue the points though, spoon has always had a strong mind & sticks to his guns. its an agree to disagree opinion. i just dont view what condit was doing as fighting.
 
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Spoon where do you train mma at? when was the last time you stepped into a cage? because you sure know alot about not being able to run in a "cage" those things not that small buddy.. be real about it watch the fight again an again an tell me how many times Condit backs up after throwin a leg kick an when diaz walks forward he backs up.. fuck that angle shit, diaz couldnt take dude down because he was always backing up but at the end of the game Diaz lost because he got screwed and every1 knows this jus look at twitter look at all the fighters who calling bullshit Greg Jackson Is a joke with his game plans thats why half the fighters he trains are boring to watch
 
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Spoon where do you train mma at? when was the last time you stepped into a cage? because you sure know alot about not being able to run in a "cage" those things not that small buddy.. be real about it watch the fight again an again an tell me how many times Condit backs up after throwin a leg kick an when diaz walks forward he backs up.. fuck that angle shit, diaz couldnt take dude down because he was always backing up but at the end of the game Diaz lost because he got screwed and every1 knows this jus look at twitter look at all the fighters who calling bullshit Greg Jackson Is a joke with his game plans thats why half the fighters he trains are boring to watch
I train at Paul Creightonmma. I took a little time off cuz I dislocated my shoulder. Goin bacc in mid feb tho. When I did train I was in there 6 days a week, 9 classes a week. 3 gi, 3 no gi, and 3 striking / mma. Like smigg can't rap said, guess well jus agree to disagree. They talkin rematch anyways. But it's gonna be that same shit unless DIAZ piccs up the pace.
 
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But y'all still haven't told me ur strategy to condit would be. Y'all complain in bout Jaccson mma but wut would u tell condit to do? Really doe? Specially when Diaz pushes u bacc to the cage?
 
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But y'all still haven't told me ur strategy to condit would be. Y'all complain in bout Jaccson mma but wut would u tell condit to do? Really doe? Specially when Diaz pushes u bacc to the cage?
man he can do what he wants. obviously standing & trading would leave him KTFO on his back, thats why he didnt. but he didnt have anything for diaz. outpointed him due to a game plan, but when it comes down to a REAL fight, he couldnt win. as much of a beast as people claimed he was, he spent the match back-peddling.
 
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man he can do what he wants. obviously standing & trading would leave him KTFO on his back, thats why he didnt. but he didnt have anything for diaz. outpointed him due to a game plan, but when it comes down to a REAL fight, he couldnt win. as much of a beast as people claimed he was, he spent the match back-peddling.
With all due respect homie u kinda contradicting urself. He would get ktfo on his bacc, THAT'S Y HE DIDN'T. Then u say he "out pointed him due to a gameplan. Maybe he jus did that cuz he didn't wanna get ktfo? I don't ever wanna go into a fight to get ktfo. Do u? Wuz the purpose of fighting then? To lose and get ktfo?
 
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With all due respect homie u kinda contradicting urself. He would get ktfo on his bacc, THAT'S Y HE DIDN'T. Then u say he "out pointed him due to a gameplan. Maybe he jus did that cuz he didn't wanna get ktfo? I don't ever wanna go into a fight to get ktfo. Do u? Wuz the purpose of fighting then? To lose and get ktfo?
so are you saying he went into the fight knowing what he had to do to avoid getting KTFO (a possibility), but had no plans to KO diaz? cuz nothing he did suggested he was trying to finish diaz.

so whats the point of fighting then?

edit: & i really do believe this. there are really fighters out there satisfied with not finishing their fights these days. not saying condit wouldnt have liked a KO, but theres fighters who dont need a stoppage to be satisfied. & its a fucking cancer to the sport.
 
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danhardymma Dan Hardy
How did you score the main event yesterday? I thought Diaz looked great. I was watching a different fight to the judges though.


JoeLauzon Joe Lauzon
That being said, I would still MUCH rather watch someone like Diaz move forward than someone sit back, pick a shot and legit run. #UFC143
 
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so are you saying he went into the fight knowing what he had to do to avoid getting KTFO (a possibility), but had no plans to KO diaz? cuz nothing he did suggested he was trying to finish diaz.

so whats the point of fighting then?
Anything he threw at Diaz COULDA knoccd him out bruh. Even tha spinning elbows landing right coulda knocced him out. Well I take that bacc, not the low leg kiccs knoccin him out. But those "baby" kiccs coulda done more damage. Jus like those pepper punches Diaz lands, don't seem like they hurt but they do. Diaz would never admit the kiccs hurt tho. But maybe that's y he didn't cut off condits "running" when he SHOULD have.

And gsP gonna blanket a victory. Take condit down lay n pray.
 

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This shit is funny as hell.

Condit stuck to his game plan, which was to fight a smart fight and he showed discipline in not being drawn into the kind of fight Diaz wanted.

Diaz stuck to his game plan, which was to just press forward, and not do anything other than hope he could engage Condit against the cage.

Diaz did slightly more than Condit to engage. If he really wanted to, he could have moved in faster, or tried to figure out Condit's escape pattern/routine and shot for some take downs. Someone moving forward, can move faster than someone moving side to side or backwards. Diaz was probably worried that if he did that, he would get hurt by Condit. In reality, he fought as much of a safe fight as Condit did.