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Tony

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yes tony Ross Greenberg of HBO sports lied it was a huge conspiracy against their own #1 fighter in Mayweather, makes perfect sense that HBO would go against their #1 money maker perfect sense actually great logic you flomo fags are unbelievable.
Why didn't Ross Greenberg mention who he negotiated with? Leonard Ellebre (sp) challenged both of them (Ross Greenberg and Bob Arum) to a lie detector test.
 
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lol leonard ellerbe is a piece of shit, what are they going to do have Greenberg president of HBO have a lie detector test on PPV? you're an idiot tony if you believe that shit. Again, what purpose would it serve for Greenburg to lie? Maywether IS the face of HBO boxing, you're telling me he would make this shit up to potentially piss of floyd for no good reason whatsoever? gtfo

ellerbe doesn't negotiate anyways he is simply floyds personal adviser. Al haymon, floyd's manager, is the go to guy.
 

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Calm down man. Hey if Ross says that he negotiated with a representative from both sides then he could have at least mentioned or said who he negotiated with because we all would have like to have known.

I just don't see why they were negotiating if Floyd wasn't interested in fighting at that time.
 
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Bottom line: Manny didn't agree (to the compromised 14-day cut off window offered by Mayweather) when it was the only obstacle holding up the fight.
Actually, that's not the bottom line. First off, this obstacle could have been resolved by either camp. This is a fact. Floyd could just as easily (actually, 10 times easier) have taken the request off the table. Manny agreed go through the same testing as everyone else. So here's the bottom line: at the very start, you have two great fighters agreeing to a match. There was nothing stopping this fight from happening, NOTHING until Floyd begun making requests for irregular drug testing. PERIOD. As much and as often as you can say "well all manny had to do was take the tests", someone else can say "Floyd didn't have to make such demands". PERIOD. You can twist this any way you want to, but at the end of the day, it all comes back to Floyd. And if this continues, and Floyd never fights Manny, AND they both continue to win, PAC is going to be regarded as the greater fighter.
 

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Pac is going to regarded as the greater fighter
Floyd is going to be regarded as the greater boxer

It's not just Pac that Floyd wants tested. It's anybody he steps into the ring with.... why isn't anyone else having a problem with the testing? Shane and Victor Ortiz ain't trippin' and Sergio Martinez has gone on record saying that the testing that Floyd is asking for wouldn't be a problem.

Obviously the Nevada State Athletic Commision testing procedures aren't good enough because if they were then Shane Mosley would have gotten busted.

And Ehtereal you're missing the whole point.

Manny supposedly changed his mind after the offer was pulled off of the table..... that's the bottom line. He didn't agree when it was in his face ready to be signed. Floyd left it open by saying "I AM STILL PROPOSING" and Pacquiao went on to fight Clottey.
 
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notice all those guys mentioning it will only due it against floyd, the biggest payday of their lives. you don't see those guys doing it in any other fights. did victor ortiz ask berto for these tests? did sergio martinez ask pavlik, williams, etc. to do it? no, they're only WILLING to do it to get a career high payday. Like we spoke about before, Zab Judah asked Shane Mosley take ONE extra drug test (not random, not "olympic style" just a single scheduled test) and mosley told zab to go fuck himself. The difference here is that those guys aren't making $20+ million dollars a fight like pacquiao is. They are making in the hundreds of thousands per fight, not millions, so obviously they are going to bend over backwards to get floyd in the ring with them.
 

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Or they'll do whatever they can to get their shot at being the first man to defeat Floyd. I wouldn't call agreeing to get Olympic Style Drug tested bending over backwards. They probably feel that they wouldn't let something so petty get in the way of them fighting. You're saying that it would be a career payday and that's the reason they would take it. Maybe so, maybe no. But at the end of the day, they would still agree.

This goes back to the point I made about a year ago, if Beyonce was going to give it up to you, raw dawg, and all she wanted was for you to take an HIV test as close to the date as possible, who wouldn't agree? I know you wouldn't because you said that you would find another one to hit that wouldn't ask you to get tested.

Now fast forward to today, you (as in Pacquiao) say that you're willing to get that HIV test so you could hit but it's too late because she already gave it up to somebody else. You had your chance but you passed when the opportunity presented itself.
 
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CHANCES ARE THESE ARGUMENTS ON THE SICC ARE THE CLOSEST WE GET TOAN ACTUAL FIGHT... THEY ARE BOTH AT FAULT... IF MANNY HONESTLY THINKS HE CAN BEAT FLOYD THEN HE SHOULD JUST TAKE THE TEST... IF FLOYD HONESTLY THINKS HE CAN BEAT MANNY THEN HE SHOULD GO OUT AND FIGHT...
 
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This goes back to the point I made about a year ago, if Beyonce was going to give it up to you, raw dawg, and all she wanted was for you to take an HIV test as close to the date as possible, who wouldn't agree? I know you wouldn't because you said that you would find another one to hit that wouldn't ask you to get tested.
lmao@ the beyonce shit again! 2pac turned down an HIV test when janet jackson demanded he take one so your point is invalid.
 
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This goes back to the point I made about a year ago, if Beyonce was going to give it up to you, raw dawg, and all she wanted was for you to take an HIV test as close to the date as possible, who wouldn't agree? I know you wouldn't because you said that you would find another one to hit that wouldn't ask you to get tested.
so in the equation of yours... floyd is the pussy?

just making sure i understand what you're trying to say here :cheeky:
 

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lmao@ the beyonce shit again! 2pac turned down an HIV test when janet jackson demanded he take one so your point is invalid.
He said he declined because they were only going to do a scene. So actually the point is valid! 2pac said he'd take 5 of them if he was really going to get down with Janet! But since they really weren't going to get down, he said he wasn't going to take one.
 

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so in the equation of yours... floyd is the pussy?

just making sure i understand what you're trying to say here :cheeky:
No, I'm saying that if you're clean (PED negative, HIV negative) you wouldn't have a problem with taking the test.

Let's play a game here:

$migg Cant Rap: Beyonce, what's up baby girl? I think it's that time.

Beyonce: Time for what?

$migg Cant Rap: Time for me to tap that.

Beyonce: Oh really, it's time huh....

$migg Cant Rap: Yep, so what's up, you ready?

Beyonce: *acting all shy while blushing* Yeah, Im ready. I want you to smash raw dog... But there are a lot of STD's going around. Not saying you're infected with any of them but would you be willing to get tested right before we get down? I'll be taking the same tests to make sure we're both clean.

Now $migg Cant Rap take it from there..... And be honest. Would you pass it up because you don't want to get tested? Would you go find another woman to get down with (like Pacquiao did when he fought Clottey)? Or would you "take the test" and give a lil blood to prove you're not infected right before you smash raw dog?
 
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THE WHOLE BLOOD TEST THING KINDA BACKFIRED FOR FLOYD... HE ASSUMED MANNY WOULD BUCKLE AND DO IT FOR FEAR THAT HE WOULD NEVER SEE THAT KIND OF PAYDAY BUT MANNY HAS PAVED HIS OWN WAY TO BECOMING A BIG MONEY FIGHTER AND NO LONGER HAS TO EVEN THINK ABOUT FIGHTING FLOYD...