The Thing That Seperates Christianity From Other Religions...

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Hmm..

2-0-Sixx said:
"It is better to live your life as if there are no Gods, and try to make the world a better place for your being in it. If there is no God, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent God, He will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in Him."
Dogg, that's not necessarly true, as a matter of fact is completely false. The Christian emphasizes that one's soul is saved by accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. One cannot inherit the kingdom of God unless you've done that, salvation isn't measured by good deeds. Jesus was sent to save souls, therefore if you never received him then his death was pretty much futile, in other words worthless.

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." John 3:5

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^^But your still talking about ONLY christianity.

2-0-Sixx said:
Last time I checked, christianity isn't the only religion out there. This exact same logic can easily be used against you.

How do you know you're god is the one to worship? How can you be so certain the other gods are false? There are plenty of other religions that offer their own version of "hell". Well, what happens if you're worshipping the incorrect god? :dead:
Atheism is about using logic and reason to figure things out. You don't just pick and choose what do believe in, you decide things based on fact, logic and science. There's no guessing involved.
 

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^^^and u dont feel it necessary to put ur faith in something that ur not sure about, and only have a book and other peoples word to base it on. Thinking is power too, being able to think for urself, and perhaps wonder, "what if there is nothing out there?" then u might have wasted all that time trying to be good, even though u never sinned in the first place. o, i forgot, we were all born sinners.
 
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ThatBoyJd said:
To Nefar, U know the Muslims R cousins ( I can't remember their names but it's when two bothers? seperate N one takes the land he see as nice well leaving the the rest to the other, that is less fertile land, the good land went to the man who's desendants would be many of the people who'd become the Muslim people) to the jews, the koran n torah if U look @ both highly resemble each other, the Muslim founder got his ideas from the jews N Christians, who were around 1st. N since the jews were there 1st they ain't stealing no land, hell if they kicked the Palestinians? out they wouldn't really be doing nothing but taking all their land back. The people in Palestine were originaly nomads N R really having most of their problems because the other Muslim countries don't really want them there.
i hope you not trying to justifty Israelis take over of the land. with what you said, mexicans should reclaim southwest USA? (after all it was mexico's land only 150 years ago)

the fact of the matter is that the jews went into muslim land, made war, killed a bunch of people, they haven't stopped, they take more of the muslim's land by force. all within the last 50years. its a big mess. they should have never done this in the first place, those muslims have been living there for the past 2,000 years?!?!?

if i go into your home and kick you out, shoot half your family, becuase my great great great grandfather use to live there is that just?

on top of that the state of Israel is a "JEWISH STATE." Imagine that, can the US ever be a "christian state" focusing on one group of people? one religion?
 
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@everyone else

in biblical times, a prophet meant 'God's messager' it's not someone who can see the future...lol

@ThatBoyJd
islam's koran was written by the prophet Mohammed, with the help of God. The last prophet was Mohammed.
 
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nefar559 said:
@everyone else

in biblical times, a prophet meant 'God's messager' it's not someone who can see the future...lol
Exactly. A prophet relaid God's message
nefar559 said:
@ThatBoyJd
islam's koran was written by the prophet Mohammed, with the help of God. The last prophet was Mohammed.
Mohammed was illiterate, he couldnt write the Koran. He learned it from the Angel and then repeated it to a scribe.
 
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John 3:16

No doubt, the topic says "The thing that seperates Christianity from other religions" so that was the approach I took when responding to this post. Earlier in the thread some of the members challenged Rectal by asking him to supply a list of prophesies, a challenge I was glad to take. The thread originated with the intention of discussing the fullfillment of the prophecies of "Christianity", somewhere down the road it went to what religion is right and which one's not. I believe only in one God, one religion, and one church. Whether you're Baptist, Catholic, Pentacostal, Apostolic, Protestant, or any religion that confesses that Jesus Christ died for your sins you're part of that church. Christ is the only way, hence Christianity in my view. God is not the author of confusion nor evil, unlike some cults, religious groups, even "religions" that teaches their followers hate and violence. It makes no sense for a God to send a messenger to teach violence so they can live forever in paradise. No guessing on my parts, my decision for my beliefs are based solely on facts, supported it with 20 prophecies above. Still got more..

If you're looking for something besides biblical facts, as far as physical evidence of the credentials of the Christian faith you would have to go to Jesus tomb. It's empty which shows the fulfillment of His ascension to God's right hand. Other religion's prophets, saviour, or whatever they may call them bones will still be where they were layed to rest. That's a guarantee.., but other than that watch the times playboy.
 
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nefar559 said:
mexicancommando?...lol
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nefar559 said:
the Koran is God's word, word for word.
Yes, but it wasnt written by Muhammed. The Angel told Mohammed was to remember then Muhammed recited it to a scribe. I am aware that angels are messengers of God, all I clarified was that mohammed was not the one that wrote the Koran.
 
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DubbC415 said:
^^^and u dont feel it necessary to put ur faith in something that ur not sure about, and only have a book and other peoples word to base it on. Thinking is power too, being able to think for urself, and perhaps wonder, "what if there is nothing out there?" then u might have wasted all that time trying to be good, even though u never sinned in the first place. o, i forgot, we were all born sinners.
Exactly, faith plays an important part in the Christian faith. You have to believe, but when a Christian professes their faith the usual response by unbelievers is "how you know you're religion is right". If they anwser cause i know, i feel it, i have faith etc.. such as Rectal did earlier suddenly it comes to them having to prove themselves. When they're asked to validate their salvation by using the bible, then it's "you're basing your beliefs by a book" lol. The faith of the Christian isn't the problem, it's the unbeliever's faith to open their heart to receive the truth. I've actually read the bible, using concordances, commentaries, and other study material that broke the bible down by books, scriptures, even words. I searched the scriptures continually looking for contradictions and was eventually convicted cause I found none. So my beliefs aren't based on what I heard, what someone else said, but on what I know and feel. But, just to clear things up I'm far from perfect, I haven't been to church in years, I don't live the life of a Christian but I know the word of God. Real talk, no frontin' on mines. I know the truth but I don't live the life, at least I'm not right now..

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i can understand why people have that belief...although some would disagree, we wouldnt have a civilization if we never had religion...believe that. its just a lotta times, believers and non believers chop back and forth about being open minded...the one thing that kinda gets under my skin is calling it "the truth".
 
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DubbC415 said:
^^^and u dont feel it necessary to put ur faith in something that ur not sure about, and only have a book and other peoples word to base it on. Thinking is power too, being able to think for urself, and perhaps wonder, "what if there is nothing out there?" then u might have wasted all that time trying to be good, even though u never sinned in the first place. o, i forgot, we were all born sinners.

You're right, thinking is power and Atheism improves ones thinking skills. Instead of saying, "Wow, thats amazing, I can't explain it, must have been god" an atheist thinks to himself, "wow, thats amazing. Lets try and figure it out".
 
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Contagious Locc said:
Exactly, faith plays an important part in the Christian faith. You have to believe, but when a Christian professes their faith the usual response by unbelievers is "how you know you're religion is right". If they anwser cause i know, i feel it, i have faith etc.. such as Rectal did earlier suddenly it comes to them having to prove themselves. When they're asked to validate their salvation by using the bible, then it's "you're basing your beliefs by a book" lol. The faith of the Christian isn't the problem, it's the unbeliever's faith to open their heart to receive the truth.

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Ohhhh, I see. You just "have to believe". Ok, that makes sense. So, If I close my eyes really tight and say "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can" I will instantly know the "truth?" Oh shit, I feel it! I feel the lord in my heart! Oh damn, it hurts!!! Oh wait, I think thats the breakfast burrito I ate. :confused:
 

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this might be way off topic, i didn't read most of the thread....but the first post, who the fuck is this guy? give me a fuckin break....prophecies my ass! anyway, this guy that worked for the israeli gov't, just got out of jail after 18 years.....he exposed plans for israel's nuclear weapons and shit....but the funny thing is, he converted to christianity in jail..

btw, the bible is so broad in EVERYTHING that is says, i could tell everyone that i was god's son and that i was here to save the world, and that would fullfil a fucking prophecy.....bible thumpers are so quick to judge anyone who doesn't believe the same thing as them...for those people this goes out to you....FUCK YOU! :cool:
 

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Contagious Locc said:
If you're looking for something besides biblical facts, as far as physical evidence of the credentials of the Christian faith you would have to go to Jesus tomb. It's empty which shows the fulfillment of His ascension to God's right hand. Other religion's prophets, saviour, or whatever they may call them bones will still be where they were layed to rest. That's a guarantee.., but other than that watch the times playboy.

which brings us to the point that there is no proof that jesus existed to begin with
 
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Two things, quickly:

1. I'm working on the list. It's painstaking but I want it to be thorough and have both Old and New Testament quotes, so bear with me, I'll have it ASAP.

2. Regarding my sig: I had the Begotten sig as long as I've had this account, I put the "makes eraserhead look like ernest saves christmas" so people on the board would know what the fuck my sig was, not to insult 2-O-Sixx. Besides, I think David Lynch is one of the best directors of all time. The "makes eraserhead look like ernest saves christmas" is a real review of Begotten, and not meant to be antagonistic toward 2-0-Sixx. Though I disagree with him on many issues, I respect him as an intellectual, and though I think some of his reasoning is flawed, unlike many people, at least he's reasoning. He and I have argued before, and his willingness to debate keeps this forum alive. I will change my sig ASAP so there won't be any confusion.
 
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Rectal Prolapse said:
2I put the "makes eraserhead look like ernest saves christmas" so people on the board would know what the fuck my sig was, not to insult 2-O-Sixx. Besides, I think David Lynch is one of the best directors of all time. The "makes eraserhead look like ernest saves christmas" is a real review of Begotten, and not meant to be antagonistic toward 2-0-Sixx.
I never took it as in insult. I never heard of this movie, but after a quick google search it looks like something I must see. I'm guessing it's probably not the kind of movie blockbuster would carry, so can you recommend a place where I can either view it or purchase it?
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
Yes, I remember our conversation we had on this subject. What did scientists say? Did ALL scientists say one thing or did they argue? Science NEVER said Neanderthals were ape or human. They said, before DNA, that they were RELATED to humans. That’s exactly what the facts show us now.



Yes, I remember that you were completely wrong about Neanderthals being able to speak and having their own religion. They were NOT that intelligent. Do some research homie.
Contradiction 2-0....
The consensus was that they were early humans at the very least.
You contradict that by sayin that they weren't intelligent enough to speak? LOL!
Do some research bro, then get back to me....

2-0-Sixx said:
Who? What scientists? Religious scientists? LOL. You’re trippin about the “the rest of the scientific world catching up”. Lets see some evidence. Show me some studies.
Funny thing is that many of these scientists were not religious, they were "honest"....

Remember what I said about being nuetral?
Scientists often times get hooked on their own ideals.
That's why the key is not to only educate yourself but to humble your ego.
What good is it to read a book with your mind closed?

2-0-Sixx said:
Umm, sorry but you’re wrong once again. You’re bible is full of shit, plain and simple. Show me ONE piece, just ONE simple of evidence that shows Nephilims are Neanderthals.
Ignorance....

You require an ID, finger prints and a birth certificate.
That was not available a few thousand years ago....

2-0-Sixx said:
Damn Miggidy, you’re like talking to a 4 year old. What do you think Evolution is? Explain it to me, because obviously you are talking about something completely different from the rest of the science community.
Does evolution have to with mutations? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Evolution:
a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations.

I hope that helps.
Here's the link:
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

2-0-Sixx said:
Again, those wacky Christian Scientists? The same ones who say the grand canon was made in a couple of days?

You know these guys are complete jokes to the science community. Come on Mig, you’re constantly battling Science, and yet you use science when its from some nut Christian.
Again 2-0,
not all of these scientists are religious.
You know that....

2-0-Sixx said:
Yeah, that is hilarious considering I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS ARTICLE.
BTW, what does this article have to do with anything? Looks to me that it is more evidence for Evolution.
“Modern humans have such big brains and weak jaws because of a genetic mutation that occurred 2.4 million years ago, U.S. scientists say.”
If that’s not Evolution, then I don’t know what is.
I remember this being all over the news 2-0.
Compare these findings with the theory of evolution....
This threatens your theory because it suggests that humans today became what we are not by evolution, but by some coincedental mutation.

2-0-Sixx said:
I didn’t ignore shit. I posted “prophesies” from the first and only link I clicked on.

Listen, I don’t care what you said in the past to me. You are the one making claims of these prophesies, so either A). Point them out to us or B). Don’t bring them up anymore.
Ok I'll post the details later today or tomorrow.
But let me say this, there is physical documented evidence that the old prophets of the Torah prophecised the coming the Messiah hundreds of years before.
With very clear details, right down to his crucifixion.
That's why I suggested that folks should look into the Dead Sea scrolls, the oldest biblical scripts known to man....