THE TERM "AFRICAN AMERICAN"

[EDJ]

^YUP

MIggIDY,
I AIN'T ASHAMED OF SHIT. IT'S JUST THAT NIggAS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT AFRICA. I NEVA BEEN THERE. PLUS THEM NIggAS SOLD US OUT AND MOST AFRICANS LOOKED DOWN ON BROTHAS OUT HERE THINKIN' WE WHITE-WASHED AND SELL-OUTS. SO WHY SHOULD I CALL MYSELF AN AFRICAN IF I'M NOT DIRECTLY FROM THAT SHIT? I SAY NUBIAN CAUSE THAT TERM FITS BETTER AND IS RESPECTABLE.

 

[EDJ]

^YOU ON AN EgO TRIP, AN UNREALISTIC ONE AT THAT.

 

[miggidy]

I don't think he's ashamed. He just knows what he is and what he isn't. His point is that African Americans are people that were born in that continent and then migrated over to the US. His ancesters may have migrated here but I don't think it was voluntary, so he's making an identity he feels ok with, rather than be generalized into something he doesn't feel he is. Which brings me to my second point. I may be Latino, but I don't like the term Latin American to define my nationality. I am not Puerto Rican, Guatemalan, Chilean, etc. I may share similar cultural aspects with them but I am Mexican.

All I gotta say to that is divide and conquer....
Basic military pre-strike strategy. It applies in all aspects of the game....

 

[miggidy]

^YUP

MIggIDY,
I AIN'T ASHAMED OF SHIT. IT'S JUST THAT NIggAS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT AFRICA. I NEVA BEEN THERE. PLUS THEM NIggAS SOLD US OUT AND MOST AFRICANS LOOKED DOWN ON BROTHAS OUT HERE THINKIN' WE WHITE-WASHED AND SELL-OUTS. SO WHY SHOULD I CALL MYSELF AN AFRICAN IF I'M NOT DIRECTLY FROM THAT SHIT? I SAY NUBIAN CAUSE THAT TERM FITS BETTER AND IS RESPECTABLE.

I know you ain't ashamed but I was tryin to find out why you didn't like the term.
I understand your argument here but I must stress on the importance of unity. It was division that got a lot of slaves here in the first place. And it's this division between blacks that's got them killin each other.
How you feel about native Africans is how Chicanos feel about Mexicans and vice versa. Look at the problems Mexican Americans have, same with blacks here in America....

Unity man....
Blacks are all one race, just like all Latinos.
We can't divide each other, there's strength in numbers....

 

[miggidy]

wtf are you talkin about? all i said was it is THEIR LAND. i never said they were or weren't immigrants or "_____ American".

Then why should they lable themselves Americans and not European Americans?

 

[EDJ]

MIggIDY,
I FEEL YOU. BUT THAT TERM IS MISLEADIN'. I WONDER WHO WAS THE FIRST BROTHA TO THINK OF THAT TERM?

 

[UKantCMe]

Then why should they lable themselves Americans and not European Americans?

you jus need someone to argue wit huh???

i never said they should or shouldn't call themselves ANYTHING. i really don't give a fuck what they wanna call themselves. they're still white and i'm still black at the end of the day.

 

[NOSTRIL KING]

I like fuckoff's idea of blackanese.

 

[MizeryU]

yeaha or blackeracan

 

[MizeryU]

or blackish or blackican

 

[miggidy]

you jus need someone to argue wit huh???

Oh are you forgetting something?
I said the following:

Tecnhically speaking, black folks are African Americans, just like white people are European Americans, Asians are Asian Americans, Latins are Latin Americans and so on.

How ever I find it very interesting that white folks reffer to themselves as Americans only. Why?

To which you replied:

^^^ cuz this is their land

 

[miggidy]

MIggIDY,
I FEEL YOU. BUT THAT TERM IS MISLEADIN'. I WONDER WHO WAS THE FIRST BROTHA TO THINK OF THAT TERM?

That's a good question.

 

[2ill4u]

i din't read the whole post but i call anyone born in america american. we gotta unite some time...

 

[Locahontas]

i din't read the whole post but i call anyone born in america american. we gotta unite some time...

That's a decent point. Just like this...there are oriental people who live in South Africa & call themselves Africans.

But here's the problem with the term 'Nubian'...it actually only encompasses a certain group of people.

(from Merriam-Webster)
Main Entry: Nu·bi·an
Pronunciation: 'nü-bE-&n, 'nyü-
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 a : a native or inhabitant of Nubia b : a member of one of the group of dark-skinned peoples that formed a powerful empire between Egypt and Ethiopia from the 6th to the 14th centuries
2 : any of several languages spoken in central and northern Sudan
- Nubian adjective

Main Entry: Nu·bia
Pronunciation: 'nü-bE-&, 'nyü-
Usage: geographical name
region & ancient kingdom NE Africa along the Nile in S Egypt & N Sudan

The first problem lies in being able to identify exactly where in Africa you came from (as someone mentioned earlier). The second problem (well, I don't know if it's really a problem, more of an issue) would be what to call black people who didn't come from 'Nubia.' But like EDJ said, we're mixed with so many different cultures, it would probably be too damn hard to pinpoint an exact country. There would probably be too many countries to include in your title. So let's say for example, I found out that the black side of my family came from Egypt, Ethiopia, and Tanzanian. And being that I'm mixed, would I then be a Nubian-Tanzanian-German-Austrian-Hungarian-American?

It's sometimes hard to pick out on part of your heritage to choose as your title. Because then it seems like you're discrediting the rest of your ethnicity.

 

[Locahontas]

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_pol_2003.pdf

 

[UKantCMe]

good luck, but none of this will ever work... you're tryin to make logic out of an ignorant system..

if you want to get technical we should be called humans, cuz we all came from the same continent. and we all know which continent that is...

 

[Locahontas]

good luck, but none of this will ever work... you're tryin to make logic out of an ignorant system..

basically

if you want to get technical we should be called humans, cuz we all came from the same continent. and we all know which continent that is...

Europe or Australia?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Locahontas]

I hope no one took that seriously...

 

[UKantCMe]

man is originally from Afghanistan. i thought you thought?

 

[EDJ]

LOCAHONTAS,
WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU HEARD THAT TERM BROUgHT OUT?