The System's War Againgst Tupac

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before i copy and paste this article from the allhiphop website, i'd like to add i do believe that the system was actively against the brother tupac, because of his positive power amongst our community, from the time he helped that human being brother that was being brutalised by an off duty cop in atl back in the day and beat the charges, you see what i'm saying and didn't do nuthin about his death because of how deep police corruption is in america, plus he was there enemy and me personally now, i believe in street justice, or if i can't get that, then i keep it moving, i don't believe in system justice anyway, but thats not taking anything away from any 'civillians' right for due justice, thats just my personal take on things and i don't really adhere to 'civillian' rules and i ain't a gangsta or a road brother neither, its just the way i've came up, i've lived in middle class surburbs, estates(projects), homeless, hostels, the whole shebang, i'm just an average nobody out here, trust me on that

but i don't believe in the conclusions that he is adding up to from the evidence he has, i'm not gonna go into who i really think killed tupac and why on no internet computer boards because from my experience you get suspect mudda fockers on here and in certain experienced personal cases, feds(police) too, you see what i'm saying, conspiracies don't exist witout evidence, you get what i'm saying fam, true story, real talk, fuck rats, i feel like yeah, everybody knows who and why, this isn't nuthin new, street talk should stay in the street, especially if it ain't got nuthin to do wit you, stay outta grown folks bizness, you see what i'm saying

i'm just saying, this is a interesting interview of an author of a book called 'the war against tupac' called john potash who reckons the US intellegence community was behind tupac's death....

The War Against Tupac: A Conversation with John Potash

Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:01 AM | 24 comments

By Cornell Dews




Being oppressed in America lends to immediate exposure of America’s harsh realities, which help impregnate the beliefs of the individuals. To believe that the government would infiltrate the Black community and flood it with drugs and guns with the intent of it leading to the community’s could be farfetched until you realize it happened. To believe that local, state and federal authorities would get away with committing subversive acts towards the Black community without being held accountable even after the tactics were supported by fact finding documentation or even recorded through the usage of audio or video is not farfetched at all. Many believe the government helped orchestrate the assassinations of influential Black leaders who fought for both civil and human rights. However, believing that the government had some involvement in the blatant murder of one of Hip-Hop’s most influential musical icons surprisingly is not as believable. Why?

John Potash, a 44-year-old White male, raised in a predominantly Jewish community in Baltimore County penned an interestingly well-written manuscript entitled “The FBI War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders.” I had the opportunity to meet John for lunch and converse with him about his book, which I purchased from Everyone’s Place, an independent black owned bookstore located in Baltimore. For obvious reasons, his book is not being carried in any of the major bookstores.

Upon introduction I extended my hand to greet Mr. Potash and immediately our handshake turned to “dap.” We all know that non-verbal communication says just as much as the things we verbalize, sometimes even more. I was anxious to talk because there was so much for us to talk about pertaining to Tupac and the United States Government. The possibilities and theories are truly boundless. Over lunch, a conversation commenced.

AllHipHop.com: You were quoted in an article in The Baltimore CityPaper written by Bret McCabe that you believed Tupac had become “the most influential Black man in the Black community in the country” which I assume would be the reason, in your opinion, his life would be threatened. Can you expound on that statement?

John Potash: Being that he had the top selling CD’s in the world and was starring in major motion pictures, which made him a rap and film star. He was also engaged to the daughter of Quincy Jones, a well-established and respected person in the entertainment business, which increased his popularity. He had very close relationships with his extended Black Panther Party family, who acted as his mentors. Not to mention that he was trying to do more positive things.

AllHipHop.com: For those who have yet to read your book, could you explain why you believe that Death Row Records were a U.S. Intelligence front against Black activism?

John Potash: A high level police detective named Russell Poole got himself assigned to the murder investigation of Biggie, during his investigation he stumbled across the fact that Death Row Records employed many officers who were considered agents. Poole also found typical intelligence operations such as trafficking drugs, guns and laundering money taking place at Death Row Records.

AllHipHop.com: Do you think Death Row Records was the only label used as a front against Black activism?

John Potash: I’m not certain if there were other labels, just because I didn’t have the time or resources to investigate other labels. However, I will say that Time Warner, the parent company of Death Row at the time, ended up buying the rest of the labels, so I’m sure their operations could have worked towards other labels as well.

AllHipHop.com: Are you scared of any backlash or repercussions with the bold statements and claims that you’re making in your book The FBI War on Tupac and Black Leaders?

John Potash: I’m a little scared, but this is what gives me passion.

AllHipHop.com: In your book, I noticed that you reference being supported by people who were close to Tupac, but you did not mention Tupac’s mother Ms. Afeni Shakur. How does she feel about your book and the research you’ve done in regards to her son?

John Potash: She has not publicly addressed the topic of my book and I can understand why.

AllHipHop.com: What do you intend for your book to accomplish?

John Potash: I hope to get as many people as possible more politically active to save our nations heroes like Mumia Abu Jamal and H Rap Brown; both who are sitting on death row, when they’re much needed back in the community doing great things.

AllHipHop.com: What were the difficulties of publishing this book?

John Potash: Well Kathleen Cleaver, the wife of Eldridge Cleaver, initially took me to her editor. I was told that it was too much to fact check everything. I approached six different publishers with six different proposals and still nothing. So I decided to put it out myself, self-published. I started Progressive Left Press.

AllHipHop.com: Your book suggests and supports the ideas of government agencies use of Cointelpro tactics to control, divide and conquer a community through hip hop. In the hip hop community, there’s speculation that the “Illuminati” is doing the same. In your opinion is there a distinction between the two?

John Potash: I don’t know much about the Illuminati and besides hand signs and other small gestures, I don’t know if it can be proven. So I ask what factors have the best evidence behind them that’s controlling our society? White Anglo Saxon Protestant males are controlling the country and top corporations and that’s a better way to describe it.

AllHipHop.com: Do you find any irony in the fact that you worked as a counselor at a methadone program and you wrote a book about the government conspiring to destroy the Black community through dismantling our leaders with subversive tactics, including infiltrating the community with drugs?

John Potash: I do think that drugs undermine activism in the community. For instance, I feel weed is pushed hard towards the community through the music. Abusing marijuana can cause people to not work towards activism. Towards the end, Tupac himself was getting away from abusing drugs.

AllHipHop.com: In your book “The War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders,” you boldly suggest that Toure’ who have appeared on both BET and MTV as a Cultural Critic, as a person who works for US Intelligence. Why?

John Potash: I was just quoting Tupac’s trial lawyer, Michael Tarif Warren, who said he couldn’t believe how Toure’ set in the front row of Tupac’s sexual assault trial and totally misrepresented it, especially when Toure’ covered Tupac’s time in his life closely that whole time. He also insinuated that Tupac may have set up his own shooting at Quad Studios.

AllHipHop.com: Is it true, as implied in your book, that Death Row Records tried to lure Wu Tang Clan from their record label in an attempt to coerce them into helping further their agenda of destroying Black activism?

John Potash: They just tried to lure them to Death Row to disrupt their group. ODB’s brother was a beloved Black activist and he was producing the music. Obviously it didn’t work with Death Row, but US Intelligence inserted an agent in the group as a manager, his name is Michael Caruso, a drug dealing young Mafia kingpin.

AllHipHop.com: You believe that prior to his ultimate demise that there were five government-sponsored attempts on Tupac’s life?

John Potash: Yes.

AllHipHop.com: Because of the manner in which it happened from what’s been reported, you also believe that Jam Master Jay’s unsolved murder was the act of the government?

John Potash: Well because of similar tactics as having a security camera that caught the incident and still no one was apprehended, The New York Times reporting that his death had something to do with the east coast west coast beef and The Baltimore Sun reporting that he was becoming more political and socially conscience. In addition to all of that, he wasn’t robbed.

AllHipHop.com: You also suggest based on your research that verbal clashes between 50 Cent and other rap artists are influenced by the powers to be with sinister intent. Do you not believe that it’s an attempt to sell records by involved parties or in some cases, just the competitive nature of the sport?

John Potash: I think it’s a little of all three, but the unspoken part is that of the US Intelligence. In my book I talk about the incident involving Lil Kim and Foxy Brown’s entourage. Take into consideration, the harsh and disproportionate punishment the artists receive for the incidents they’re involved in.

AllHipHop.com: Based on your findings, do you honestly believe that the government killed Tupac.

John Potash: Of course. They orchestrated his assassination.

Potash could be the supreme conspiracy theorist full of all speculative nonsense, gibberish, just another attempt to confuse and keep us in the dark or one that has unearthed a jagged pill of raw truth. Who knows what to make of the twelve years of research and documentation that John Patosh gathered to support his claims. The evidence in his book is just as hard to dispute as it is to validate. Those who dispute the information have quite a lot of work to counter “The War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders.”
 

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before i copy and paste this article from the allhiphop website, i'd like to add i do believe that the system was actively against the brother tupac,
Who/what is “the system” you’re referring to?
because of his positive power amongst our community, from the time he helped that human being brother that was being brutalised by an off duty cop in atl back in the day and beat the charges, you see what i'm saying
His positive power amongst what community? Urban communities? Suburban communities?
and didn't do nuthin about his death because of how deep police corruption is in america, plus he was there enemy and me personally now, i believe in street justice, or if i can't get that, then i keep it moving…i've lived in middle class surburbs, estates(projects), homeless, hostels, the whole shebang, i'm just an average nobody out here, trust me on that
It’s cool that you’re giving us a background on your beliefs/opinions.

but i don't believe in the conclusions that he is adding up to from the evidence he has, i'm not gonna go into who i really think killed tupac and why on no internet computer boards because from my experience you get suspect mudda fockers on here and in certain experienced personal cases, feds(police) too, you see what i'm saying, conspiracies don't exist witout evidence, you get what i'm saying fam, true story, real talk, fuck rats, i feel like yeah, everybody knows who and why, this isn't nuthin new, street talk should stay in the street, especially if it ain't got nuthin to do wit you, stay outta grown folks bizness, you see what i'm saying
No, I absolutely don’t see what you’re saying. Tupac has been dead for years now, and I’m sure the sane and insane have conceived every possible type of scenario, hypothesis and theory devoted to the subject.
 
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Tupac was a powerful voice there is no denying that. Would of been interesting to see what he would of did if he lived past 25. There won't be another REAL artist like him again that doesn't bow down to what the suits want to distribute.
 
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Do I think the government or a paid agent of the government (paid snitches don't count) killed 2pac - No

Do I think the government created or participated in the development of an atmosphere that lead to 2pac's deat - Yes


Are those the same things? I don't think so, but it seems the author does
 
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Do I think the government or a paid agent of the government (paid snitches don't count) killed 2pac - No

Do I think the government created or participated in the development of an atmosphere that lead to 2pac's deat - Yes


Are those the same things? I don't think so, but it seems the author does
I feel the government had a role in both tupac and biggie's death. They were as influential as you can get in the streets. They were threats to many, imo. It is not coincidental both were killed in similiar fashion. But we will never know the truth so whatever.
 
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Who are these people? Nevermind, I didn't see the second reply. Why do you feel the government did it?
I feel Tupac and Biggie were influential in the communities the government has no influence in. Tupac was a revolutionary of sorts and comes from an anti-government upbringing. Although Biggie seemed to be an allright dude and had a somewhat normal childhood, the music and lifestyle they supported was/is far from normal in the eyes of the government. You had one guy with millions of people on one side of the country hanging on to his every word, and vice versa on the other coast. Very threatening to national security if these two could have set aside their differences and come together to fight for what they believed in. They were all of 25 or so when killed, just starting to find themselves, imo. Both were killed in a pretty similiar fashion too. Car drives up, hits and kills the intended target, and smashes off. No one else hit by gun fire. Coincidental? In my opinion, no.The east coast/west coast thing, if squashed, would have united many people. I think it was heading there if I am not mistaken. I think they were seen as urban terrorist leaders. What does the United States do to those leaders that oppose their will? These two were too easy for the government not to knock off in the interest of national security. Considering what I have seen with my own two eyes, I can not overlook the possibility. That is my theory.

Or it was Suge!
 

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I feel Tupac and Biggie were influential in the communities the government has no influence in.
What do you mean by communities the government has no influence in?

Tupac was a revolutionary of sorts and comes from an anti-government upbringing.
Revolutionary...interesting.

Although Biggie seemed to be an allright dude and had a somewhat normal childhood, the music and lifestyle they supported was/is far from normal in the eyes of the government.
Forget the government for a second, would a group of non oppressed people find their behavior normal?

You had one guy with millions of people on one side of the country hanging on to his every word, and vice versa on the other coast. Very threatening to national security if these two could have set aside their differences and come together to fight for what they believed in.
A threat to national security? How? Are you implying we were going to have Martin and Malcolm part 2?

They were all of 25 or so when killed, just starting to find themselves, imo. Both were killed in a pretty similiar fashion too. Car drives up, hits and kills the intended target, and smashes off. No one else hit by gun fire. Coincidental? In my opinion, no.The east coast/west coast thing, if squashed, would have united many people. I think it was heading there if I am not mistaken.
The only place unity exists is at the top.

I think they were seen as urban terrorist leaders.
Urban terrorist leaders....who owned the distribution companies and parent labels? Did these people have ties to special interest groups, i.e. CFR, TLC, etc?

What does the United States do to those leaders that oppose their will?
That depends on those in charge at the time, how their will is being opposed and a couple of other factors. Usually, the government has other black people do their dirty work.

These two were too easy for the government not to knock off in the interest of national security.
How were these two a threat to national security?

Considering what I have seen with my own two eyes, I can not overlook the possibility. That is my theory.
That is great that you're speaking from your own experience and with your own eyes. Many people just take what they heard from someone else and go from there.

Or it was Suge!
Doubt it.

What do you know about black culture, black history and the in fighting between black leaders? Answer that question and proceed down the rabbit hole.
 
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What do you mean by communities the government has no influence in?
From a literal standpoint, I am incorrect. People in the areas I am speaking of depend on welfare, government assistance, etc. But overall most in the urban/ghetto settings do not support our government and its functions. Most feel oppressed by our government in poverty stricken areas.

Forget the government for a second, would a group of non oppressed people find their behavior normal?
I think that is very subjective. There will be people who feel this behavior is normal and some that do not.

A threat to national security? How? Are you implying we were going to have Martin and Malcolm part 2?
Uniting the ghettos of the Untied States to stand up for themselves. Tupac was 25 when killed. I think of how much I have grown since that age and can only imagine the type of individual he would have become. There is no doubt abuse of citizens/power is more rampant in urban/ghetto settings. I think he would have been a spokesperson for the people without a voice so to speak. His energy was unbelievable and would have definately rubbed off on many as he had already done. More of a fuck the government, lets go to war with them attitude. Biggie would have supported his black brother at some point I am sure.

Urban terrorist leaders....who owned the distribution companies and parent labels? Did these people have ties to special interest groups, i.e. CFR, TLC, etc?
The distribution comapnies and parent labels see dollar signs, that is it. Tupac was an outlaw. He had influence in the streets. I am not saying he was part of some organized terrorist cell, but his radical views were definately threatening to the government. Power is in the people, if only we recognize that.

How were these two a threat to national security?
If five million people said fuck the government and rebelled against their authority, we would have a war on our hands right here on our soil.

What do you know about black culture, black history and the in fighting between black leaders? Answer that question and proceed down the rabbit hole.
Not too much. But I do know their was a time the color of your skin determined your social status in this country. Something many still have not got over.