RUDY, RUDY, RUDY!!!!!!
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no we hang on to rudy!!! after all this hype I gotta see what this guy can do in the NBA
I say we package up jack and frye and some second round picks, not that exactly, but some combination of that to either move up in the draft or trade for a PG
I say we also try and get calderon from the raptors!
I say we package up jack and frye and some second round picks, not that exactly, but some combination of that to either move up in the draft or trade for a PG
I say we also try and get calderon from the raptors!
Me either, but I love the idea of a premier pg on the team to go with Roy, LMA and Oden. If that happened we don't need to do anything about our situation at the 3 and the 09 cap space plan could be used to bring in 2 or 3 cagey vets instead of one superstar. To me thats the perfect situation because it gives the young guys plenty of time to develop and then it brings in vets for many years of strong playoff runs.
so mannish what do you think our starting line up for the season opener next year
I think i gotta go with
1-Blake(or some new player)
2- Roy
3- Webster(maybe outlaw if he keeps playing well at the 3 this year)
4- LA
5- oden
then our bench
Rudy
Outlaw/webster
Dolla Billa
frye
Rafe
jack(god I hope he isnt on the team next year)
I think i gotta go with
1-Blake(or some new player)
2- Roy
3- Webster(maybe outlaw if he keeps playing well at the 3 this year)
4- LA
5- oden
then our bench
Rudy
Outlaw/webster
Dolla Billa
frye
Rafe
jack(god I hope he isnt on the team next year)
hard to say. depends on what happens on draft day and the development of the current crop of players we have. I'm not holding my breath for Jack or Rodriguez to magically turn into starting quality pgs though. So here's my realistic projection:
1.Blake
2.Roy
3.Fernandez?(probably not strong enough to play 3 but may command starters minutes and Roy is definitely not taking a back seat at the 2)/Webster? (could possibly have his break out year like Outlaw and turn into the guy we thought he could one day be when he was picked at 6. He'll never live up to being picked higher than Paul or Williams but I'll always be grateful for Patterson and Nash and their tremendous draft day fuck up because it got us 3 stars instead of 1. Ok enough about the 3 spot, Jesus Christ!
4.LMA (obviously)
5.Oden (obviously)
ok now my pipe dream lineup after the unrealistic Rudy for Rose deal:
1.Rose
2.Roy
3.Webster (Outlaw is better as a 6th man IMO)
4.LMA
5.Oden
1.Blake
2.Roy
3.Fernandez?(probably not strong enough to play 3 but may command starters minutes and Roy is definitely not taking a back seat at the 2)/Webster? (could possibly have his break out year like Outlaw and turn into the guy we thought he could one day be when he was picked at 6. He'll never live up to being picked higher than Paul or Williams but I'll always be grateful for Patterson and Nash and their tremendous draft day fuck up because it got us 3 stars instead of 1. Ok enough about the 3 spot, Jesus Christ!
4.LMA (obviously)
5.Oden (obviously)
ok now my pipe dream lineup after the unrealistic Rudy for Rose deal:
1.Rose
2.Roy
3.Webster (Outlaw is better as a 6th man IMO)
4.LMA
5.Oden
my dream lineup would be
1.Chris Paul
2.Brandon Roy
3.?????????(outlaw/webster???) I think A. Jamison would fit well with us
4.LMA
5.Oden
I also I agree with Outlaw is better off the bench, you want a guy like him who can score while roy and LA are on the bench getting rest
yeah seems again that the 3 is the biggest ??? going into next season....
1.Chris Paul
2.Brandon Roy
3.?????????(outlaw/webster???) I think A. Jamison would fit well with us
4.LMA
5.Oden
I also I agree with Outlaw is better off the bench, you want a guy like him who can score while roy and LA are on the bench getting rest
yeah seems again that the 3 is the biggest ??? going into next season....
fuck i didnt think about the bench, ok lemme try again
1.Blake/Sergio ( I have a feeling Jack is done in Portland)
2.Roy/Rudy
3.Webster/Jones
4.LMA/Outlaw
5.Oden/Joel
Now the pipe dream lineup again
1.Rose/Blake
2.Roy/draft pick
3.Webster/Jones
4.LMA/Outlaw/draft pick (nbadraft.net has us taking Kevin Love, but then again in my pipe dream deal for rose we lose that pick but we still have like 6 million 2nd rounders this year so who knows?)
5.Oden/Joel
1.Blake/Sergio ( I have a feeling Jack is done in Portland)
2.Roy/Rudy
3.Webster/Jones
4.LMA/Outlaw
5.Oden/Joel
Now the pipe dream lineup again
1.Rose/Blake
2.Roy/draft pick
3.Webster/Jones
4.LMA/Outlaw/draft pick (nbadraft.net has us taking Kevin Love, but then again in my pipe dream deal for rose we lose that pick but we still have like 6 million 2nd rounders this year so who knows?)
5.Oden/Joel
lol thats my bad, I didn't either, then went in and edited the bench in after you quoted me...
but whats your opinion on jack, you agree with about 99% of blazers fans that he needs to get the fuck outta portland
he could have 19 points 8rebs 9 asst and only 1 turnover
but that one turnover is gonna be with less then a min to go in the 4th quarter with us down 2... and when he isn't doing that he is gettin 10 points and 5 turnovers
but whats your opinion on jack, you agree with about 99% of blazers fans that he needs to get the fuck outta portland
he could have 19 points 8rebs 9 asst and only 1 turnover
but that one turnover is gonna be with less then a min to go in the 4th quarter with us down 2... and when he isn't doing that he is gettin 10 points and 5 turnovers
lol, man I would LOVE to get Paul ( i think 28 teams in the league would too) but thats even less realistic than getting Rose on draft day. As far as the 3 spot, I think we'll be fine. Webster is coming along nicely and people forget he's still only what, 21, 22? Outlaw turned into a factor for us because he was allowed to develop. Webster is a little less athletically gifted than Outlaw, but still very athletic, a better shooter with much better technique, and has a higher bball IQ. His ceiling is a lot higher than Outlaw's IMO and remember it took Outlaw 4 years to get to this point. I don't think 3 even needs to be addressed when you take that into consideration. Especially if we get a nice upgrade at pg somehow 
lol, man I would LOVE to get Paul ( i think 28 teams in the league would too) but thats even less realistic than getting Rose on draft day. As far as the 3 spot, I think we'll be fine. Webster is coming along nicely and people forget he's still only what, 21, 22? Outlaw turned into a factor for us because he was allowed to develop. Webster is a little less athletically gifted than Outlaw, but still very athletic, a better shooter with much better technique, and has a higher bball IQ. His ceiling is a lot higher than Outlaw's IMO and remember it took Outlaw 4 years to get to this point. I don't think 3 even needs to be addressed when you take that into consideration. Especially if we get a nice upgrade at pg somehow
Yea he has to go. his game just doesnt fit here. its become painfully obvious this year that pg is just not his position in the NBA (at least not for Portland). I still think he can eventually be a borderline starter/nice backup in the NBA, it just wont be here. Eric Snow is probably about where his ceiling ends. but I think KP knows that this offseason will be the time to get rid of Jack, because for some reason, he still has value around the league with a lot of teams. Rod Thorn seems high on him and may even still be willing to give us Harris in some type of Jack+shitty contract+picks package. He was quoted as saying he envisioned Jack as NJ's pg of the future around the time that deal fell through.