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May 8, 2002
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D-Style said:
This worlds full of bullshit governments and just because we're better than the worst doesn't make us good.
you mean better than most right?

you know if this country is so bad you do people from every country in the world want to come here and be americans like us???
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


and that i find disrespectful, and all other people who have lost loved ones fighting for this country and to keep it free, should also find it disrespectful.
I also find it disrespectful that right wings like you don't do shit for veterans after they get out of the service. My grandpas a vegetable in a veterans hospital when he could be walking if they gave him better care. He risked his life for this country and that's what he gets? My dad was in vietnam and this country didn't give him shit. "We used you for all you were worth so fuck you". How were we keeping this country free in vietnam? They weren't invading us, they weren't threatening our way of life. Shit like that is why people have that fuck you attitude towards the government.
 
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D-Style said:
Most mexicans can't do shit because they aren't citizens. That's why it's like that. They're too worried about the INS jumpin on their back. It has nothing to do with not having the will to do rally & fight like the blacks are, they don't have to worry about being deported
they wont get arreested for protesting unless they get unruly. and as for the INS i know what your saying but you mean the border patrol because INS wont do shit as a matter of fact they would rather help you than deport you
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


they wont get arreested for protesting unless they get unruly. and as for the INS i know what your saying but you mean the border patrol because INS wont do shit as a matter of fact they would rather help you than deport you
not if you do something to piss them off (migra-Immigration and Naturalization Service), in this case stand up for your rights.
 
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D-Style said:
not if you do something to piss them off
look at jonh lee malvo the sniper the border patrol picked him up and was going to deport him when the INS stepped in and forced them to change the status of malvo so they could release him in the USA and guess what 10 months later hes kills many in the beltway thats why i say the INS sucks
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


look at jonh lee malvo the sniper the border patrol picked him up and was going to deport him when the INS stepped in and forced them to change the status of malvo so they could release him in the USA and guess what 10 months later hes kills many in the beltway thats why i say the INS sucks
He isn't hispanics, INS is a lot harder on hispanics. You should know that, shits common knowledge. Look at el salvador, that countries overrun by gangs all thanks to the United States. Most of those people left salvador when they were little kids and were raised in the US. The INS has successfully fucked up a lot of the countries in central america so they defenitely get the job done when it comes to mexicans, salvadoreans, etc.
 
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D-Style said:


I also find it disrespectful that right wings like you don't do shit for veterans after they get out of the service
not right wings like me. i cant say "poof" and a law will come into effect you mean the conservatives that are in power right now. and before them the clinton administration (liberals) that were in power before and after both Bushes. and you can keep going farther and farther and you will find that both political parties are at fault.
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


not right wings like me. i cant say "poof" and a law will come into effect you mean the conservatives that are in power right now. and before them the clinton administration (liberals) that were in power before and after both Bushes. and you can keep going farther and farther and you will find that both political parties are at fault.
Right wing thinking, and of course I mean the conservatives that are in power. Do you not think like the conservatives that are in power? I shouldn't blame it all on conversatives, I blame it on greed also. JFK got us into vietnam but then he ended up trying to pull us out because he knew we shouldn't have been there, a little while later he was assasinated and a republican came into power and kept the war going. No war has been as pointless as vietnam. Bush was the last person to get us into war, a republican.
 
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D-Style said:
JFK got us into vietnam but then he ended up trying to pull us out because he knew we shouldn't have been there, a little while later he was assasinated and a republican came into power and kept the war going.
look as you stated kennedy got us into vietnam, as he was assasinated then his vice president lyndon baines johnson(democrat-liberal) kept us in vietnam. it wasnt until Richard Nixon (a republican-conservative) that we got out of vietnam.
 
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D-Style said:
Do you not think like the conservatives that are in power
Bush was the last person to get us into war, a republican.
actually not exactly i am a moderate conservative which means i am in the middle often and believe in views from both sides only i believe in more from the right than the left

example>>
i believe in a womans right to choose (liberal idea)
i believe in the death penalty>>>>>>(conserv. idea)
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


would i be right in saying the a "NIXON" republican (conserative) had the sense to get out of the mess that a "KENNEDY"democrat (liberal) put us in
i don't know much about this topic, but its seemms very hard
that Kennedy was the one pushing for war, as bush is doing now.
i really don't want to dig throught history to prove this.

{NIxon that bastard, resigned before being impeached.}

u make it seem as presidents had to do with the whole "getting
us into war, and out" to a certain extended they do.
but u'r forgetting about the huge opposition to the war.
the US citizens had sometime to do with us getting out of that war.
 
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nefar559 said:

but u'r forgetting about the huge opposition to the war.
the US citizens had sometime to do with us getting out of that war.
NO IM NOT FORGETTING . THE OPPOSITION WAS THERE DURING THE KENNEDY AND JOHNSON YEARS AS WELL AS THE NIXON YEARS. OF COURSE THE PEOPLE HAD A LARGE PART IN IT BUT WHO LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE>>>>> RICHARD NIXON
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


NO IM NOT FORGETTING . THE OPPOSITION WAS THERE DURING THE KENNEDY AND JOHNSON YEARS AS WELL AS THE NIXON YEARS. OF COURSE THE PEOPLE HAD A LARGE PART IN IT BUT WHO LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE>>>>> RICHARD NIXON
pretty sure Keddedy would have too, any pres. (well except dubaya..lol.)
 
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Mcleanhatch said:


ya huh he had more shame than dear old clinton who would rather drag the country threw the sewer before resigning.
clinton another fuck.....well at lease his ass went through the impeachment.....never knew what was down with the whole
watergate thing....some big secret conspircy and shit.