The Official West Coast Gangs History Thread!!!

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og714oc said:
let me clarify something..... you jumping on the example and not the reality.
never said they came out here to start what we stand for... i said what they wanted us to represent and stand for. Cali-blacks we're like fuck that, we ain't listeninng to no damn chi-town and that was pretty much that.

glad you understood what i meant by using the term blood, because that what i was talking about...having to do with no gang banging just all blacks said young blood or what up blood... ask your gee's!

sorry, but back in the 60, colors didn't have a signifigance yet so you wore what ya momma bought you and if it was red, you wore. point blank!
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and lets be real about the whole thing....shyt didn't turn in to real black gang activity until after the watts riot in 65 and that's when niggas said fuck it.

i'll give you parts on the BPP and that's why i shot you the info on the party shit from out there to here....but your getting all fired up and ain't quite understanding....i said TRIED not did. and that party shyt was based under the same principles as the black panthers. but like i said...cali niggas wasn't having it!!


the word crip came in late 72 to be exact and the color blue in 73 was the flag.

raymond was never a bgd, never heard that one.

not knocking what cha know, but it's just not all the whole story
i'm damn near forty with 10 years in the system with these same niggas.. including your big homies hoova hog 107 and hoova lurch 52 and a few others who talked about all this.

these are just parts of the history is all.... now don't go getting like the white man and take your parts of the truth as the only truths out... that's why our black history is messed up now.

know all about the cco's they slid paper under the door and i slid it back.

i was a gang member reppin my set, not no pen gang.
they respected that and that was that.

but your right about the westside...it was the first



Cool on the Overstanding of what you were getting across with the "blood, young blood" thing back in the days, Me and you are on the same Age so I'm already knowing Cuzzo.... but the wrong person could read that and think you meant that Crips wore red and was walking around saying blood and shit, and that's false so I wuz speaking on it from a fallacy perspective cause there's a gang of niggas peepin this thread not saying shit but you know them niggas is Ear Hustlin and all they need 2 do is get a bar of somethin like that, run with it and spread some fucced up false rumours on Crip homie, I'm 2nd generation Crip and my Knowledge comes directly from the niggas that started it all OG Gangsta Killas 4 real my dogg, on my mama homie, it's so much shit that I just won't talk about on the internet tho, a lot of this shit I be Choppin it on is straight generic shit that I'm sure squares is intrigued by but this ain't shit, but there IS a whole lot of bull-shit floatin around on here on this "C" shit, my Knowledge might not be the "Whole story" but it's realclose Cuzz, and the West-side sprouted the 2nd Crip set ESC 32nd St-Was The 1st "Crip" Set, But It's Now Known As ECC East Coast Crip CuZZ...ALL DAY!!!
 
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Social-Political Period, 1965-1970
In the aftermath of the rebellion, young people, namely former club members from the community, began to build political institutions to contest social injustices, specifically police brutality, which sparked the 1965 Watts Riots. Following the Watts Riots, and throughout the rest of the 1960s, black groups were organizing and becoming politically radical.

For nearly five years, beginning in 1965, there were almost no active black street gangs in Los Angeles. Several reports that black gang activity was on the decline began to circulate (Klein 1971: 22). According to Sergeant Warren Johnson, “during the mid and late 1960s, juvenile gang activity in black neighborhoods was scarcely visible to the public at large and of minimal concern to south-central residents” (Cohen 1972). It was the formation of these new movements that offered black youths a vehicle of positive identification and self-affirmation that occupied the time and energies that might have been spent in gang activity. A sense of cohesiveness began to form, along with self-worth and positive identification, as pride pervaded the black community (Los Angeles Times 3/19/72).

After the Rebellion in 1965, club members began to organize neighborhood political groups to monitor the LAPD and to document their treatment towards blacks. Ron Wilkins (ex-member of the Slausons), created the Community Action Patrol (CAP) to monitor police abuses (Davis 1990:297), and William Sampson (ex-member of the Slausons), along with Gerald Aubry (ex-member of the Orientals), started the Sons of Watts, whose key function was to “police the police” (Obtola 1972:7). The B started a chapter in Los Angeles shortly after Huey Newton, and Bobby Seale started the Party in Oakland, California, in 1966. The BPP in Los Angeles also organized both the black on several high schools campuses in Los Angeles and the black, a meeting place for black residents concerning community issues on Florence and Broadway in 1967. Ron "Maulana" Karenga organized a nationalistic group called US Organization, and Tommy Jacquette organized the Self Leadership for All Nationalities Today (SLANT) in October of 1966 (Bullock 1969:67; Tyler 1982: 222). After splitting away from the US Organization, Hakim Jamal started the Malcolm X Foundation in 1968, and Robaire Nyjuky founded the Marxist Leninist Maoist (MLM) which had an office on 78th Street and San Pedro (Tyler 1983:237). Student Non-ViolentCoordinating Committee (SNCC), a national organization of black nationalists visited Los Angeles and opened an office on Central Avenue in 1967. Also during this period, Ron Karenga created Kwanza, a non-religious holiday that celebrates African heritage.

All these groups were formed in the wake of the 1965 rebellion to provide political support to the civil rights movement that was gaining strength within the black community of Los Angeles. There were several other black nationalist groups in Los Angeles, but the Panthers and US Organization were considered to have the largest following and the most political influence in the black community of Los Angeles following the Watts Rebellion. The BPP heavily recruited members from the Slausons, an East side club, while the US Organization had a large a following from the West side clubs, including the Gladiators, but members of both political groups came from a variety of different clubs from all over Los Angeles. _____________Carter was elected president of the Los Angeles Chapter of the black Panther Party (BPP), whose sole purpose was monitoring the actions of the Los Angeles Police Department. Several members of the black Panthers and the US Organization[7] headed by Ron “Maulana” Karenga, were at one time members of the black clubs of Los Angeles during the 1950s and early 1960s. Some experts have suggested that the rivalry between the BPP and US was rooted in previous club rivalry, but it was actually associated with the opposite philosophies of the two groups.
 
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After the formation of several progressive groups in Los Angeles, local and federal law enforcement agencies began to target those groups that they viewed as a threat to society and the nation as a whole. The emerging black consciousness of the 1960s, that fueled the political movement, was viewed as hostile. The efforts of these political and militant groups to organize young blacks against police brutality were repressed by the FBI, because they specifically viewed the actions of the Panthers and other groups as subversive and a threat to the security of the nation. Chief Thomas Reddin of the Los Angeles Police Department retained the military model and police tactics that his predecessor (Chief Parker) had employed for sixteen years. Reddin believed that the black Panthers represented a major threat to the safety of his officers and their authority on the streets (Scheisl 1990: 168).

By 1967, the Panthers were one of the strongest black political groups in the nation, and by November 1968, J. Edgar Hoover dispatched a memorandum calling his field agents to “exploit all avenues of creating ...dissension within the ranks of the BPP” (Churchill and Wall 1990:63). This was accomplished by the use of counterintelligence (COINTELPRO) which are tactics designed to divide, conquer, weaken, and to make ineffective the actions of a particular organization. COINTELPRO tactics that the FBI began to use against the BPP to weaken its power base, were previously used during the 1940s and throughout the 1950s against the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) and the Communist Party (CPUSA) in the United States (Churchill & Wall 1990:37). From 1968-1971, these tactics were used against the BPP to control and neutralize what was believed to be “a dangerous black political group.” The most vicious and unrestrained application of COINTELPRO techniques during the late 1960s and early 1970s was clearly reserved for the BPP (Churchill & Wall 1990:61; Horne 1995:13).

After several confrontations for over two years, the disputes between the BPP and US continued to the campus of UCLA resulting in the murders of BPP leaders. There are several versions of the events in the described oral histories of those who were present and those who knew the victims personally, but US members were ultimately arrested for the murders. The years of 1969 and early 1970 marked the end of any forward progress by black political groups in Los Angeles.
 
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Gang Resurgence, 1970-1972

The attack on black political leadership in Los Angeles, and the power vacuum that remained, created a large void for young black youths in the late 1960s that coincided with the resurgence of black gangs. A generation of black teens in Los Angeles saw their role models and leadership decimated in the late 1960s. Raymond Washington, a 15-year-old student at Fremont High School, started the first new street gang in 1969, shortly after much of the Panther power base was eliminated and as other social and political groups became ineffective in Los Angeles. Washington, who was too young to participate in the Panther movement during the 1960s, absorbed much of the Panther rhetoric of community control of neighborhoods (Baker 1988:28) and fashioned his quasi-political organization after the Panther’s militant style, sporting the popular black leather jackets of the time. Washington got together a few other friends and started the first new black gang in Los Angeles on 78th Street near Fremont High School called the Baby Avenues.

In addition to emulating the Panther appearance, Washington also admired an older gang that remained active throughout the 1960s called the Avenues. He decided to name his new quasi-political organization the Baby Avenues, to represent a new generation of black youths. They were also known as the Avenue Cribs, and after a short time they were referred to as the Cribs, which was a comment on their youthfulness. Their initial intent was to continue the revolutionary ideology of the 1960s and to act as community leaders and protectors of their local neighborhoods, but the revolutionary rhetoric did not endure. Because of immaturity and a lack of political leadership, Raymond Washington and his group were never able to develop an efficient political agenda for social change within the community.

The Cribs were successful in developing a style of dress and a recognizable appearance. In addition to their black leather jackets, they would often walk with canes, and wear an earring in their left ear lobe. Some were also avid weightlifters. The Cribs began to venture into their own criminal behavior, committing robberies and assaults. In 1971, several Crib members that were assaulting a group of elderly Japanese women were described by the victims as young cripples that carried canes. These young cripples were the Cribs, but the local media picked up on this description, and referred to this group as the Crips (Los Angeles Sentinel, 2/10/72). The print media first introduced the term Crip, and those that were involved in a life of crime were considered to be Crippin’ by other Crib members who were still trying to be revolutionary, with the same political thinking of the 1960s. According to ______________ Danifu, an original Crib member, the Cribs was the original name of the Crips, but the term Crips was substituted by the use of the word C through a newspaper article that highlighted specific individuals who were arrested for a murder.[8] Because some of the early Cribs carried canes, the entire notion of Crip as an abbreviated pronunciation from crippled caught on. Jerry Cohen wrote that Crip members wore earrings in their left lobe, in addition to carrying canes, but the walking sticks were not the source of the gang’s name that many believed (1972: C3). Danifu continued to add that Crippin’ was a separate thing from being a Crib… “Crippin’ meant robbing, and stealing, and then it developed into a way of life.”[9]
 
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As mentioned earlier, these youths tried to emulate the fashion of the Panthers by developing a style of dress that included black leather jackets. Those youths who had the crippin’ mentality, became excessively concerned with imitating the Panther appearance. By 1972, most Cribs had been completely transformed into the Crippin’ way of life, which often led into criminal activities. For example, the acquisition of leather jackets by unemployed black youths was accomplished by committing robbery and strong-arming vulnerable youths for their jackets. Jerry Cohen (1972) described the early Crips as:

a group of juveniles that committed extortion of merchandise, mugging the elderly, and ripping off weaker youths, particularly for leather jackets that have become a symbol of Crip identity. (p C3)

Ironically, three days after this article was published, the desire for leather jackets led to perhaps the first Crip murder, when a sixteen-year old son of an attorney was beaten to death over a leather coat. The victim, who was not a gang member, was a West side resident who attended Los Angeles High School and played cornerback for the football team. According to the Los Angeles Police Department, the group that assaulted him fled the scene with five leather jackets, two wallets, the victim and his friends. A few days later, nine youths, including members of the infamous Crip gang, were arrested for the murder. The previous month there was a similar incident where 20 black youths had attacked and beaten a 53- year-old white man to death on Figueroa and 109th Street in South Los Angeles. It was believed that the Crips were responsible for this killing, but no arrests were ever made (Los Angeles Sentinel 2/10/72).

The sensational media coverage of the event at the Hollywood Palladium, plus continued assaults by the Crips, attracted other youths to join the Crips. For youths that have been marginalized along several fronts, such gangs represented manliness to self and others (Vigil & Yun 1990:64). Many youths joined the Crips, but others decided to form their own gangs. The increased attention the early Crips received by the police and from the community, because of the violence they were involved in, actually attracted more youths to join these early gangs. The violence was said to have been committed to attract attention and to gain notoriety (Rosenzweig 1972). In addition, several other youths formed other non-Crip gangs, in response to continued Crip intimidation. The idea of Crippin’ had taken over the streets of south Los Angeles, and Mike Davis stated that “Cripmania” was sweeping South side schools in an epidemic of gang shootings and street fights in 1972 (1990:300). In three short years, the first Crip gang on the East side on 78th Street had spread to Inglewood, Compton, and the West side, totaling eight gangs, as ten other non-Crip gangs formed. By years end, there were 29 gang-related homicides in the city of Los Angeles, 17 in unincorporated areas of Los Angeles County, and nine in Compton (Rosenzweig 1972). Gang violence was in the early stages of what would soon become an epidemic in Los Angeles.
 
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I feel ya.
that's why i had to reclarify it. cuz you right about taking things the wrong way.

Above is a pretty close history of what took place, but black gangs or "clubs" in the 20's through late 50s we're here.

i'm only speaking on common knowledge... will not give a play by play of my hood...*LOL*

THAT WOULD BE VIOLATING THE ORIGINAL CODE OF CRIP!.

Big C-Style said:
Cool on the Overstanding of what you were getting across with the "blood, young blood" thing back in the days, Me and you are on the same Age so I'm already knowing Cuzzo.... but the wrong person could read that and think you meant that Crips wore red and was walking around saying blood and shit, and that's false so I wuz speaking on it from a fallacy perspective cause there's a gang of niggas peepin this thread not saying shit but you know them niggas is Ear Hustlin and all they need 2 do is get a bar of somethin like that, run with it and spread some fucced up false rumours on Crip homie, I'm 2nd generation Crip and my Knowledge comes directly from the niggas that started it all OG Gangsta Killas 4 real my dogg, on my mama homie, it's so much shit that I just won't talk about on the internet tho, a lot of this shit I be Choppin it on is straight generic shit that I'm sure squares is intrigued by but this ain't shit, but there IS a whole lot of bull-shit floatin around on here on this "C" shit, my Knowledge might not be the "Whole story" but it's realclose Cuzz, and the West-side sprouted the 2nd Crip set ESC 32nd St-Was The 1st "Crip" Set, But It's Now Known As ECC East Coast Crip CuZZ...ALL DAY!!!
 
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og714oc said:
I feel ya.
that's why i had to reclarify it. cuz you right about taking things the wrong way.

Above is a pretty close history of what took place, but black gangs or "clubs" in the 20's through late 50s we're here.

i'm only speaking on common knowledge... will not give a play by play of my hood...*LOL*

THAT WOULD BE VIOLATING THE ORIGINAL CODE OF CRIP!.




No doubt...Good Lookin Cuzz... Nice drop!
 
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now that thats clarified you two go eat your bran muffin and metamucil cause the shuttles coming to take you to the senior citizen center

Im just clownin Im turning 35 in a few weeks and damn time sure is passing and some of these kids look at me like Im old
 
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Boi, you is old!! don't know what the hell you talkin' bout...but cha old....*LOL*
get use to it....it's call experience!!!

50cal said:
now that thats clarified you two go eat your bran muffin and metamucil cause the shuttles coming to take you to the senior citizen center

Im just clownin Im turning 35 in a few weeks and damn time sure is passing and some of these kids look at me like Im old
 
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[BLUE RAG]
I'm dippin' on the East Side of the Compton Hub
For the neighborhood Crip gang Cuz I got much love
I'm givin' it up
To the rest of the Crip gangs
Steady crippin' and puttin' in work on them Slobs main
KELLY PARK, ATLANTIC DRIVE and SOUTH SIDE
SPOOK TOWNS always down to hoo-ride
FARM DOG, NUTTY BLOCC and TRAGNIEW
It's killin' up them Snoops like Vietnam gooks
LANTANA BLOCC, the SWAMPS and ORIGINAL FRONT
Be hoo-ridin' on Slobs all through the month
DUCKY HOOD, PALMER BLOCC and ORIGINAL POCKET
Be pluggin' on off brands like a plug socket
PARK VILLAGE, SANTANA and MONA PARK
The ?come-up? is up to way
Puttin' a slug in a Snoop's heart
And by the way: Crippin' don't stop!
Cause them FRONT STREET CRIPS in WATTS gots much props
JORDAN DOWNS, FUdge TOWN and P.J's
Two 1-11 N-HOOD is steady crippin' on them Avenues
MAIN STREET, EAST COASTS and ROLLIN 60 N-HOOD
Is always crippin' and nuthin' on damn good
Two C's up to L-B-C
SCHOOL YARD SHOTGUN and A-G-C
Shot outs to them 9-7 KITCHENS
And Original Crip sets
That I couldn't mention
Much Crip love, Blue Rag's outta here and I'm steady dippin'

remember that
 
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That's right, but what about tweety bird loc...opeople be forgeting about him... his shyt was pretty damn hard back in the day.

50cal said:
[BLUE RAG]
I'm dippin' on the East Side of the Compton Hub
For the neighborhood Crip gang Cuz I got much love
I'm givin' it up
To the rest of the Crip gangs
Steady crippin' and puttin' in work on them Slobs main
KELLY PARK, ATLANTIC DRIVE and SOUTH SIDE
SPOOK TOWNS always down to hoo-ride
FARM DOG, NUTTY BLOCC and TRAGNIEW
It's killin' up them Snoops like Vietnam gooks
LANTANA BLOCC, the SWAMPS and ORIGINAL FRONT
Be hoo-ridin' on Slobs all through the month
DUCKY HOOD, PALMER BLOCC and ORIGINAL POCKET
Be pluggin' on off brands like a plug socket
PARK VILLAGE, SANTANA and MONA PARK
The ?come-up? is up to way
Puttin' a slug in a Snoop's heart
And by the way: Crippin' don't stop!
Cause them FRONT STREET CRIPS in WATTS gots much props
JORDAN DOWNS, FUdge TOWN and P.J's
Two 1-11 N-HOOD is steady crippin' on them Avenues
MAIN STREET, EAST COASTS and ROLLIN 60 N-HOOD
Is always crippin' and nuthin' on damn good
Two C's up to L-B-C
SCHOOL YARD SHOTGUN and A-G-C
Shot outs to them 9-7 KITCHENS
And Original Crip sets
That I couldn't mention
Much Crip love, Blue Rag's outta here and I'm steady dippin'

remember that
 

YOUNGNUTT

I'm so O.C.
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og714oc said:
and sorry, nut hood crip didn't form till the early 90's and not a year earlier. and the dues treys which came from 20's and 30's from los angeles. i think like 1 or two dudes came out here and started that in the mid 90's. i could be wrong, but not by much. no disrespect. gage st crips been around for quite some time, stationed in fullerton originally.mid 90's....
FIRST OF ALL, WHO ARE YOU FROM WATERGATE???

YOU CALL'N' ME FUNNY BUT TRYNA TELL ME ABOUT MY HOOD!!! LMFAO!!!

EARLY 90'S???
CUZ YOU CRAZY, YOU NEED TO KEEP NUTTHOOD OUT YO MOUTH CUZ OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT MY HOOD!!!
THE HOOD STARTED IN '84, AND BELEIVE ME I KNOW,
MY BROTHERS WERE AMONGST THE FIRST FROM THE HOOD!!!
DUECE TRE & GAGE ST. IS OUR ALLIES!!!

og714oc said:
lets get down to basics about your hood and who started it, because it wasn't you or your big homie that your thinking about ( big mike-black) ....unless your talking about gandi, big ese mike sansen (not sure about the spelling), the bradfords and pieir.how about evil ill, c-dog, chucky, blue, jamal, tark, roy, ain't knowing the spelling on some of these. and when terry died (RIP) you didn't do shyt, so save it. you would have been way to young to participate. if so, i would have known!
WHAT???
YOU THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING CUZ YOU CAN NAME OFF SOME OF THE HOMIES???
TSSSSSSS PLEASE, YEAH, THEM IS MY NIGGAS,
AND OF COURSE "I" DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WHEN THE HOMIE HUSTLER (R.I.P.)
WAS TOOKEN FROM US, THAT WAS THE GENERATION BEFORE ME!!!
BUT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE THAT CAUSED THAT WHOLE INCIDENT???
I THINK NOT, CUZ THAT'S HOOD BUSINES!!!

og714oc said:
and besides all that, didn't ya'll use to be a party crew?? around 88-89?? and for the record, me and your brother is str8 Green Eyes or aka Roy. matter of fact, quite a few of oc's gangs we're inspired by that movie colors (1988) next day, all out the blue, everybody is a hi-tech gang member.. that shyt was hella damn hillarious!! not gonna mention which other sets that followed this line, but they know who they are.
PARTY CREW IS TRUE, BUT THAT WAS PRIOR TO '84!!!
WHAT'S YOUR COLORS MOVIE COMMENT SUPPOSE TO MEAN???
WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE THAT!!!
 
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young nutt let me sum this up if this was menace to society youd be siting at the police station and the detective would be saying

you know you fucked up?... you know you fucked up right,
In his post he said early 90s he said he could be off so you say 84 thats pretty close to me but on the real this dude,, blah blah blah fuck it if you aint smart enough to keep your mouth shut then you grown enough to face consequences for your actions
Last I heard nuthood wasnt fuckin wit you but you know them rumors
 
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Just Like I thought couldnt keep your suck shut.I dont need to know you. shit Im in norwalk off of Imperial and curtis & king if you got something on your head come and get it knocked tha fuck off.
 
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