THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD
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We'll see what happens because the draft is a few days away. Should be interesting, if I am wrong about Crabtree not being good in the NFL then I'll come back and admit it. But I just don't see him as being all that good. He may have good hands and can run routes but his lack of speed concerns me and you need to seperate in the NFL because Qb's don't have much time and space to get their balls in there. I was just watching highlights of Crabtree, and I noticed the qb that was throwing him the ball was mostly in Shotgun formation. We'll see what happens!
all the non raider fans just need to admit that they dont want to see the raiders draft crabtree, because if they do then we have the next aikman, smith,irvin combo with russel,dmc and crabtree not to mention bush and miller. the offensive playmakers would be set for the future and all yall would hate it because you want these cats to be on your squad.and tony crabtree is gonna be raw fitzgerald and boldin dont have great speed and they turned out pretty damn good speed isnt errythang only to al davis it is. with all of that said the raiders will probably take andre smith and he will be a bust lol.
If not Crabtree, then Raji by default
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As noted in Tuesday’s on-line chat, I’m involved in a mock draft which started this way:
Detroit_QB Matt Stafford, Georgia
St. Louis_LT Jason Smith, Baylor
Kansas City_LT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Seattle_LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
Cleveland_WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Cincinnati_LT Andre Smith, Alabama
Sounds plausible, since it’s difficult to know at this point exactly what teams are thinking. There are reports the Cleveland Browns have soured on Crabtree because of his attitude, although I can remember hearing similar things about Charles Woodson only to discover he was actually a pretty straight-forward guy and was far from a “diva.”
Let’s assume for a moment Crabtree is gone when the Raiders pick, as are three of the four premeire tackles.
The consensus at that point, if you went through all the mock drafts, would probably be Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin.
My inclination?
First, try and trade down. Easier said than done, if indeed seven of the teams in the top 10 are having similar thoughts, as Scot McCloughan is suggesting.
If the Buffalo Bills saw something they really wanted at No. 7 and were hesitant to give up Nos. 11 and 28 in the first round, then you throw in a player and a second- or third-round pick from next season’s draft to get it done, with the idea of getting those picks back through future deals.
If trading back simply isn’t an option, then I’m reluctantly going with Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji.
If the Raiders truly believe he is best front-seven run-stopper in the draft, then you address a six-year weakness and make the pick.
Over the last six years, the Raiders have finished no better than 25th in rushing defense. They’ve been 32nd once and 31st in each of the last two years.
In those 96 games, the Raiders have given up 122 rushing touchdowns. At the other end of the spectrum, the Pittsburgh Steelers have given up 54 rushing touchdowns.
I realize the problems in that area are in part because the Raiders score so few touchdowns. If I didn’t believe that, I wouldn’t be advocating the pick of Crabtree.
But more touchdowns isn’t going to suddenly make the Raiders a good team against the run _ it would only the opponent less persistent.
And if those touchdowns aren’t on the board, you move to stop a six-year land rush against your defense.
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
As noted in Tuesday’s on-line chat, I’m involved in a mock draft which started this way:
Detroit_QB Matt Stafford, Georgia
St. Louis_LT Jason Smith, Baylor
Kansas City_LT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Seattle_LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
Cleveland_WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Cincinnati_LT Andre Smith, Alabama
Sounds plausible, since it’s difficult to know at this point exactly what teams are thinking. There are reports the Cleveland Browns have soured on Crabtree because of his attitude, although I can remember hearing similar things about Charles Woodson only to discover he was actually a pretty straight-forward guy and was far from a “diva.”
Let’s assume for a moment Crabtree is gone when the Raiders pick, as are three of the four premeire tackles.
The consensus at that point, if you went through all the mock drafts, would probably be Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin.
My inclination?
First, try and trade down. Easier said than done, if indeed seven of the teams in the top 10 are having similar thoughts, as Scot McCloughan is suggesting.
If the Buffalo Bills saw something they really wanted at No. 7 and were hesitant to give up Nos. 11 and 28 in the first round, then you throw in a player and a second- or third-round pick from next season’s draft to get it done, with the idea of getting those picks back through future deals.
If trading back simply isn’t an option, then I’m reluctantly going with Boston College defensive tackle B.J. Raji.
If the Raiders truly believe he is best front-seven run-stopper in the draft, then you address a six-year weakness and make the pick.
Over the last six years, the Raiders have finished no better than 25th in rushing defense. They’ve been 32nd once and 31st in each of the last two years.
In those 96 games, the Raiders have given up 122 rushing touchdowns. At the other end of the spectrum, the Pittsburgh Steelers have given up 54 rushing touchdowns.
I realize the problems in that area are in part because the Raiders score so few touchdowns. If I didn’t believe that, I wouldn’t be advocating the pick of Crabtree.
But more touchdowns isn’t going to suddenly make the Raiders a good team against the run _ it would only the opponent less persistent.
And if those touchdowns aren’t on the board, you move to stop a six-year land rush against your defense.
ESPN radio mock
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how the ESPN radio mock draft played out from picks 1 through 32:
1. Detroit Lions: QB Matt Stafford, Georgia. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
2. St. Louis Rams: OT Jason Smith, Baylor. Selector Brian Stull, ESPN Radio-St. Louis.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia. Selector: Adam Teicher, Kansas City Star.
4. Seattle Seahawks: LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest. Selector: Danny O’Neil, Seattle Times
5. Cleveland Browns: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech. Selector: Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland Plain Dealer.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: OT Andre Smith, Alabama. Selector: Joe Reedy, Cincinnati Enquirer.
7. Oakland Raiders: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College. Selector: Jerry McDonald, Oakland Tribune.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri. Selector: Cole Pepper, WOKV Radio in Jacksonville.
9. Green Bay Packers: DE Brian Orakpo, Texas. Selector: Jason Wilde, Wisconsin State Journal.
10. San Francisco 49ers: DE/OLB Aaron Maybin, Penn State. Selector: Cam Inman, Contra Costa Times.
11. Buffalo Bills: DE Everette Brown, Florida State. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
12. Denver Broncos: DE Tyson Jackson, LSU. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
13. Washington Redskins: QB Mark Sanchez, USC. Selector: Jason LaCanfora, Washington Post.
14. New Orleans Saints: CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State. Selector: Sheldon Mickles, Baton Route Advocate.
15. Houston Texans: LB Clay Matthews, USC. Selector: Megan Manfull, Houston Chronicle.
16. San Diego Chargers: RB Beanie Wells, Ohio State. Selector: Kevin Acee, San Diego Union-Tribune.
17. New York Jets: RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia. Selector: Erik Boland, Newsday.
18. Denver Broncos: CB Darius Butler, UConn. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Vontae Davis, Illinois. Selector: Rick Stroud, St. Petersberg Times.
20. Detroit Lions: LB Rey Maualuga, USC. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: RB LeSean McCoy, Pitt. Selector: Bob Brookover, Philadelphia Inquirer.
22. Minnesota Vikings: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi. Selector: Sean Jensen, Pioneer Press.
23. New England Patriots: DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee. Selector: Mike Reiss, Boston Globe.
24. Atlanta Falcons: LB Brian Cushing, USC. Selector: D. Orlando Ledbetter, Atlanta-Journal Constitution.
25. Miami Dolphins: WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina. Selector: Jeff Darlington, Miami Herald.
26. Baltimore Ravens: TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State. Selector: Jamison Hensley, Baltimore Sun.
27. Indianapolis Colts: DT Peria Jerry, Mississippi. Selector: Justin Cohn, Fort Wayne Journal Gazette.
28. Buffalo Bills: T Eben Britton, Arizona. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
29. New York Giants: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland. Selector Ralph Vacchiano, New York Daily News.
30. Tennessee Titans: WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers. Selector: Jim Wyatt, The Tennessean.
31. Arizona Cardinals: RB Donald Brown, UConn. Selector Kent Somers, Arizona Republic.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood, Missouri. Selector: Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how the ESPN radio mock draft played out from picks 1 through 32:
1. Detroit Lions: QB Matt Stafford, Georgia. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
2. St. Louis Rams: OT Jason Smith, Baylor. Selector Brian Stull, ESPN Radio-St. Louis.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia. Selector: Adam Teicher, Kansas City Star.
4. Seattle Seahawks: LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forest. Selector: Danny O’Neil, Seattle Times
5. Cleveland Browns: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech. Selector: Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland Plain Dealer.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: OT Andre Smith, Alabama. Selector: Joe Reedy, Cincinnati Enquirer.
7. Oakland Raiders: DT B.J. Raji, Boston College. Selector: Jerry McDonald, Oakland Tribune.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri. Selector: Cole Pepper, WOKV Radio in Jacksonville.
9. Green Bay Packers: DE Brian Orakpo, Texas. Selector: Jason Wilde, Wisconsin State Journal.
10. San Francisco 49ers: DE/OLB Aaron Maybin, Penn State. Selector: Cam Inman, Contra Costa Times.
11. Buffalo Bills: DE Everette Brown, Florida State. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
12. Denver Broncos: DE Tyson Jackson, LSU. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
13. Washington Redskins: QB Mark Sanchez, USC. Selector: Jason LaCanfora, Washington Post.
14. New Orleans Saints: CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State. Selector: Sheldon Mickles, Baton Route Advocate.
15. Houston Texans: LB Clay Matthews, USC. Selector: Megan Manfull, Houston Chronicle.
16. San Diego Chargers: RB Beanie Wells, Ohio State. Selector: Kevin Acee, San Diego Union-Tribune.
17. New York Jets: RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia. Selector: Erik Boland, Newsday.
18. Denver Broncos: CB Darius Butler, UConn. Selector: Mark Klis, Denver Post.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: CB Vontae Davis, Illinois. Selector: Rick Stroud, St. Petersberg Times.
20. Detroit Lions: LB Rey Maualuga, USC. Selector: Nick Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: RB LeSean McCoy, Pitt. Selector: Bob Brookover, Philadelphia Inquirer.
22. Minnesota Vikings: OT Michael Oher, Mississippi. Selector: Sean Jensen, Pioneer Press.
23. New England Patriots: DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee. Selector: Mike Reiss, Boston Globe.
24. Atlanta Falcons: LB Brian Cushing, USC. Selector: D. Orlando Ledbetter, Atlanta-Journal Constitution.
25. Miami Dolphins: WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina. Selector: Jeff Darlington, Miami Herald.
26. Baltimore Ravens: TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State. Selector: Jamison Hensley, Baltimore Sun.
27. Indianapolis Colts: DT Peria Jerry, Mississippi. Selector: Justin Cohn, Fort Wayne Journal Gazette.
28. Buffalo Bills: T Eben Britton, Arizona. Selector: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News.
29. New York Giants: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland. Selector Ralph Vacchiano, New York Daily News.
30. Tennessee Titans: WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers. Selector: Jim Wyatt, The Tennessean.
31. Arizona Cardinals: RB Donald Brown, UConn. Selector Kent Somers, Arizona Republic.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood, Missouri. Selector: Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
I know I keep changing and switching... but this is final. I think we should draft DHB!! Just think of the match up problems he'll cause because once he gets better at running routes, teams won't cover him one on one, so that means that the extra safety won't be able to come down and play against the run because once DHB gets behind you, he's gone! So that'll open up the run somewhat too! Wether we pick him at 7 or trade down, I still think we should draft DHB regardless. Come on Al, stick to your guns and go for speed!!!
