THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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LOL Dont dare try comparing him to JR...... jr will never ever ever everrrrrrrrrrrrrr come close to being as good as peyton is
i'm not, but according to your philosphy, this would be true.

my point is every quarterback with the exception of ryan and flacco last year has growing pains in the NFL.

you just hate on things just to hate. you cant go through life like that. you will be stuck depending on others for ever.
 

M.o.B

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Rookie year. thrown to the wolves vs indy game. with no wrs no ol, and barlow as his rb

soph year, norv as oc, lead niners to 7-9 record

3rd year, 2-1 as starter, gets hurt game 4 vs seattle (the 1 loss was controversial with the VD "fumble/int" vs the stealers)

4th year, put on IR before year started
What does that say about smith he doesn't only suck but he's injury prone too ha dam what a bust!
 

Chree

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i'm not, but according to your philosphy, this would be true.

my point is every quarterback with the exception of ryan and flacco last year has growing pains in the NFL.

you just hate on things just to hate. you cant go through life like that. you will be stuck depending on others for ever.
So then youre saying that VY and Alex Smith arent busts, they are just going thru growing pains?
 

Chree

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Chree come on, not even your ass believes that
Why not? He only played 4 years, and never played a full season, never hit 1000 yards, never had more than 5 tds in a season...... BUST

oh wait
wait wait


stats are almost identical to cedric benson............
 
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So then youre saying that VY and Alex Smith arent busts, they are just going thru growing pains?
no. they were given the starting the job and lost it due to injury and poor play. they didnt live up to their draft pick status. if they were not busts, both would be the undisputed starter at this point in both their careers. i admit, sometimes it takes qb's time to develop. but not #1 picks.

all i'm saying is you guys calling JR a bust is out of hate more than anything. the kid hasnt even been given a fairshot to label him a bust. if he doesnt pan out, you have a valid argument. but as of right now, JR was the only QB on the field last year that showed PROGRESS. nothing personal.

heres a great example for you. Cassell/brady.

Cassell played good football last year but once brady is healthy it doesnt matter. he is their #1, its undisputed. Brady is a winner plain and simple, as hard as that is to admit knowing he TUCKED the first superbowl. you cant deny end results.

bottomline is if either VY of ASS performed at an acceptable level, both would be starting right now, unquestionably.
 
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Why not? He only played 4 years, and never played a full season, never hit 1000 yards, never had more than 5 tds in a season...... BUST

oh wait
wait wait


stats are almost identical to cedric benson............
I hope your just showing that stats dont mean everything cuz Bo was a beast