THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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JR smokes weed, so he prolly dont care too much, hes gettin paid regardless if he gets "fired" or not
SO WHAT?? YOU KNOW HOW MANY OTHER NFL PLAYERS SMOKE WEED, DO COKE, DRINK TOO MUCH. ETC?? WHO THE FUCK CARES?? SO YOUR BOY SMOKED SOME WEED WITH RUSSELL. WHO CARES CHREE?? FIND ANOTHER ANGLE..
 
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lol im just sayin, Vince would be soo much mellower if he was smokin some cali bud lol and had the money JR do
VINCE YOUNG JUST SUCKS AND IS A FUCKIN HEAD CASE. RUSSEL IS COMING ALONG NICE. THE BEST THING ABOUT RUSSELL, BETTER THAN HIS ARM AND ALL THAT, IS HIS MIND. HE IS UNFLAPPABLE AND CONFIDENT AS FUCK NO MATTER WHAT. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT VIRTUES A QB CAN HAVE.

2009 WILL BE HIS BREAKOUT YEAR. WATCH.
 

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VINCE YOUNG JUST SUCKS AND IS A FUCKIN HEAD CASE. RUSSEL IS COMING ALONG NICE. THE BEST THING ABOUT RUSSELL, BETTER THAN HIS ARM AND ALL THAT, IS HIS MIND. HE IS UNFLAPPABLE AND CONFIDENT AS FUCK NO MATTER WHAT. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT VIRTUES A QB CAN HAVE.

2009 WILL BE HIS BREAKOUT YEAR. WATCH.
I couldn't have said this any better!

All Qb's struggle early on at some point in their careers. So what if Russell missed 15 straight passes... After the Ravens game, Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs gave Russell his props because he stood strong throughout the whole game even though he was getting blasted. Ray was quoted as saying Russell would get up after getting blasted and just pat them on their backs and say good hit. That's a good sign because that shows that Russell couldn't get "rattled". It's a good experience and it'll make Russell even tougher as his career goes on!

Vince probably would have quit after getting hit like that...
 
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The diffrence is that russel is entering his 3rd season and young is entering his what 5th season he's suppose to be a good qb alleready but he's not even starting
 
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The diffrence is that russel is entering his 3rd season and young is entering his what 5th season he's suppose to be a good qb alleready but he's not even starting
they got drafted one year apart....raider fans wanna act like JRs rookie season just didnt happen cuz of the money whore shit he pulled LOL...

trust me IT HAPPENED....JR will be entering his 3rd season and the 4th for vince..:hurt:
 
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If the titans thought young was a better qb why would jeff fisher say that he wants collins the starter for 09 they dont trust him thats the only reason hes not starting
 
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vince young behind collins says nothing about young and russell....

all your points are invalid....they are either wrong or just a way to trash him with saying nothing about the debate at hand...

the numbers are there....choose to soak em up or not...

just remember how much shit i got for backing young even now, and your qb who is in yall eyes...."light years ahead" of vince is doing NOTHING more then him....SORRY
 
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haha invald how explain.....

young behind collins says it all they drafted him to be a pro bowl caliber qb not a whinny ass bench warmer
 
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vince young behind collins says nothing about young and russell....

all your points are invalid....they are either wrong or just a way to trash him with saying nothing about the debate at hand...

the numbers are there....choose to soak em up or not...

just remember how much shit i got for backing young even now, and your qb who is in yall eyes...."light years ahead" of vince is doing NOTHING more then him....SORRY
What numbers? And please explain why VY is the backup to a nearly 40 year old veteran QB?
 
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Vince:
TDs: 32 T.O.s 38 P.PCT: %57.3 AVG: 6.4...

Russell:
TDS: 16 T.O.s 21 P.PCT: %53.9 AVG: 6.4..

why do i gotta explain to you why vince is on the bench....its clear the coach thinks we have a better shot at winning with collins under center...collins would probally start on the raiders too...it is what it is...

numbers are hella similar but for some reason raider fans cant understand it...
 
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Vince:
TDs: 32 T.O.s 38 P.PCT: %57.3 AVG: 6.4...

Russell:
TDS: 16 T.O.s 21 P.PCT: %53.9 AVG: 6.4..

why do i gotta explain to you why vince is on the bench....its clear the coach thinks we have a better shot at winning with collins under center...collins would probally start on the raiders too...it is what it is...

numbers are hella similar but for some reason raider fans cant understand it...

VINCE YOUNG IS ON THE BENCH BECAUSE HE'S A BASKET CASE, MENTALLY WEAK FAGGOT.
 
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Yeahh the vince young numbers are better but with one more year under his belt is suppose to make him better plus having a good football team helps out a young qb.....
The last 2 games of the season russell played good against legit teams that's why we say he's on the comeup while young is crying over being booed and acting like a bitch
 
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Yeahh the vince young numbers are better but with one more year under his belt is suppose to make him better plus having a good football team helps out a young qb.....
The last 2 games of the season russell played good against legit teams that's why we say he's on the comeup while young is crying over being booed and acting like a bitch
good TEs/WRs (which wasnt the case for young) and good o-line (decent untill this year).....

a good D doesnt help a young qb much...specially if your the only playmaker on the offense like Young was when he was the starter (he only got to play one game with CJ)