WELL THERE YOU GO BUDDY....YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR SELF.... BECAUSE A 37-38 YEAR OLD AS YOU SAY "OVERATED CHUCK LIDDELL" TURNED A 31-32 YEAR OLD WANDERLEI SILVA'S FACE INTO HAMBURGER MEAT. IM NOT TAKING NOTHING AWAY FROM WANDERLEI SILVA BECAUSE HE IS A FUCKING LEGEND NOT TO MENTION FOR A LONG TIME ONE OF THE KINGS OF PRIDE. IT JUST SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU JUST HATE CHUCK LIDDELL FOR WHAT EVER PERSONAL REASON YOU HAVE AGAINST HIM. LOL MAYBE YOUR JUST RACIST LOLOLOLOLOL. IM JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE RACIST THING.... BUT ON THE REAL....ITS FUNNY HOW SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW OR SEEM TO FORGET THAT CHUCK LIDDELL WAS 20-3 WITH TWO OF HIS LOSSES REVENGED IN 2007. CHUCK WAS ON A SEVEN FIGHT KNOCK OUT STREAK WHILE DEFENDING THE TITLE. CHUCK WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTERS ON THE PLANET AT THE TIME. THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK. IM JUST STATING FACTS.
The most overrated MMA fighters in their Time?
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WELL THERE YOU GO BUDDY....YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR SELF.... BECAUSE A 37-38 YEAR OLD AS YOU SAY "OVERATED CHUCK LIDDELL" TURNED A 31-32 YEAR OLD WANDERLEI SILVA'S FACE INTO HAMBURGER MEAT. IM NOT TAKING NOTHING AWAY FROM WANDERLEI SILVA BECAUSE HE IS A FUCKING LEGEND NOT TO MENTION FOR A LONG TIME ONE OF THE KINGS OF PRIDE. IT JUST SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU JUST HATE CHUCK LIDDELL FOR WHAT EVER PERSONAL REASON YOU HAVE AGAINST HIM. LOL MAYBE YOUR JUST RACIST LOLOLOLOLOL. IM JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE RACIST THING.... BUT ON THE REAL....ITS FUNNY HOW SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW OR SEEM TO FORGET THAT CHUCK LIDDELL WAS 20-3 WITH TWO OF HIS LOSSES REVENGED IN 2007. CHUCK WAS ON A SEVEN FIGHT KNOCK OUT STREAK WHILE DEFENDING THE TITLE. CHUCK WAS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE BEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTERS ON THE PLANET AT THE TIME. THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK. IM JUST STATING FACTS.
Are you high? What "best 205lbers" did Wand fight in Pride? He beat Rampage and and split wins with Arona and Hendo, other then them Wand was a known japanese can crusher. I love Wand, but for long time MMA fans it's well known Wand was a can crusher. Please tell me outside of Rampage, Arona, and Hendo what "best 205 fighters" Wand fought in Japan? You won't be able to, cause they don't exist.
Chuck's resume' is waaaaaaay better then Wand's man and this is coming from someone who is a huge Wand fan, i'm just a realist.
Chuck's resume' is waaaaaaay better then Wand's man and this is coming from someone who is a huge Wand fan, i'm just a realist.
You call Chuck a can crusher, but say Wand fought the best, let's examine their careers from 2000-2007 and look at both of their good wins.
Chuck Liddell:
Jeff Monson - 2000
Kevin Randleman - 2000
Guy Metzger - 2001
Murilo Bustamante - 2001
Vitor Belfort - 2002
Babalu Sobral - 2002
Alistair Overeem - 2003
Tito Ortiz - 2004
Randy Couture - 2005
Randy Couture - 2006
Babalu Sobral - 2006
Tito Ortiz - 2006
Wanderlei Silva - 2007
Wanderlei Silva:
Guy Metzger - 2000
Dan Henderson - 2000
Sakuraba - 2001
Sakuraba - 2001
Sakuraba - 2003
Rampage Jackson - 2003
Rampage Jackson - 2004
Ricardo Arona - 2005
Besides the names listed Wand literally only had wins over horrible record Japanese cans that didn't belong in a ring with him. Even his wins over Sakuraba are kind of wack, Saku was always an over inflated Welterweight.
So let's here your wack argument about how Chuck is overrated now, cause I know you'll keep going for the sake of argument.
Chuck Liddell:
Jeff Monson - 2000
Kevin Randleman - 2000
Guy Metzger - 2001
Murilo Bustamante - 2001
Vitor Belfort - 2002
Babalu Sobral - 2002
Alistair Overeem - 2003
Tito Ortiz - 2004
Randy Couture - 2005
Randy Couture - 2006
Babalu Sobral - 2006
Tito Ortiz - 2006
Wanderlei Silva - 2007
Wanderlei Silva:
Guy Metzger - 2000
Dan Henderson - 2000
Sakuraba - 2001
Sakuraba - 2001
Sakuraba - 2003
Rampage Jackson - 2003
Rampage Jackson - 2004
Ricardo Arona - 2005
Besides the names listed Wand literally only had wins over horrible record Japanese cans that didn't belong in a ring with him. Even his wins over Sakuraba are kind of wack, Saku was always an over inflated Welterweight.
So let's here your wack argument about how Chuck is overrated now, cause I know you'll keep going for the sake of argument.
cause a loss to Rampage defines Chuck Liddell's entire career.....
who did Wand fight to get the finals? Sakuraba and fucking Hidehiko Yoshida, an inflated Welterweight and a can.
so now your entire argument is Chuck Liddell's whole career is overrated because he lost to Rampage Jackson in 2003. So basically either you're a huge moron or your grasping for straws for the sake of argument.
who did Wand fight to get the finals? Sakuraba and fucking Hidehiko Yoshida, an inflated Welterweight and a can.
so now your entire argument is Chuck Liddell's whole career is overrated because he lost to Rampage Jackson in 2003. So basically either you're a huge moron or your grasping for straws for the sake of argument.
YOU GUYS GOTTA CONSIDER PRIDES RULES AS WELL...WAND AND SHOGUN HAVE BEEN STRIPPED OF SOME MAJOR TOOLS IN THEIR ARSENALS WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN RULES...UFC RULES FAVORED CHUCK IMO
COMPARING PRIDE FIGHTERS AND UFC IS HARD...JUST ON THAT ALONE...
AMERICAN RULES ALWAYS FAVORED WRESTLING BASED FIGHTERS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE...ESPECIALLY WITH A CAGE...
BUT THEN AGAIN PRIDE DIDNT TEST FOR STEROIDS...SO GO FIGURE
COMPARING PRIDE FIGHTERS AND UFC IS HARD...JUST ON THAT ALONE...
AMERICAN RULES ALWAYS FAVORED WRESTLING BASED FIGHTERS TO A CERTAIN DEGREE...ESPECIALLY WITH A CAGE...
BUT THEN AGAIN PRIDE DIDNT TEST FOR STEROIDS...SO GO FIGURE
cause a loss to Rampage defines Chuck Liddell's entire career.....
who did Wand fight to get the finals? Sakuraba and fucking Hidehiko Yoshida, an inflated Welterweight and a can.
so now your entire argument is Chuck Liddell's whole career is overrated because he lost to Rampage Jackson in 2003. So basically either you're a huge moron or your grasping for straws for the sake of argument.
who did Wand fight to get the finals? Sakuraba and fucking Hidehiko Yoshida, an inflated Welterweight and a can.
so now your entire argument is Chuck Liddell's whole career is overrated because he lost to Rampage Jackson in 2003. So basically either you're a huge moron or your grasping for straws for the sake of argument.
yeah thats wat infamous said. if you really think chuck liddell was overrated then you're a moron plain and simple. when chuck was in his prime he defeated everybody in his path with the exception of rampage who isnt a slouch and IMO was the better fighter anyway but thats not the argument here. saying chuck is overrated then you might aswell call both Wand and Rampage overrated aswell seeing as how they both lost to fighters aswell lol. Rampage lost to forrest griffin so he must be overrated right? no but you're argument is so dumb that the basis of it is on that exact logic that would make both wand and rampage overrated. you're stupid so please just stop posting in the MMA threads. just stick to mayweather and leave the MMA to the actual fans of the sport.
actually just went back and looked at the shit you post and it's full of Lulz. so when wand came into the UFC he's been an average fighter and he came the same time "all the good" 205ers came in and even lost to chuck. sure it could be argued that the rules of the UFC didnt suit his fighting style but the same argument can be said when chuck fought in 03 in pride correct? any argument you have of chuck being a bum can literrally be reversed and said about wand and even rampage and you know why? because he was great just like those fighters and he's a legend just like those fighters and they all had similar careers. chuck's legendary statis will always be better than wand and rampage since he fought here and became great here in america, but true fans know that you really cant put 1 above the other.
WITH THE WAY MMA CHANGES AND EVOLVES SO MUCH.
THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY OF WHAT QUALIFIES SOMEBODY AS OVERRATED. CHANGES.
LOOK AT ROYCE...WHEN HE WAS WINNING HE WAS THE EPITOME OF WHAT A UFC CHAMP WAS...NOW HE IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT A UFC CHAMPS SKILL SET WOULD BE NEEDED.
WAS HE OVERRATED? MAYBE... BUT NOT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU GOTTA TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE...MOST LIKELY SOMEBODY WE THINK IS INVINCIBLE.... GETS KNOCKED OFF BY SOMEBODY YOU DIDNT EXPECT...
THATS FIGHTING MAN...A WIN OR LOSS, IS A PUNCH AWAY...THROW SUBS,CHOKES,AND ALL THE OTHER STRIKES IN THE MIX...ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE...BUT THATS THE BEAUTY OF IT.
THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY OF WHAT QUALIFIES SOMEBODY AS OVERRATED. CHANGES.
LOOK AT ROYCE...WHEN HE WAS WINNING HE WAS THE EPITOME OF WHAT A UFC CHAMP WAS...NOW HE IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT A UFC CHAMPS SKILL SET WOULD BE NEEDED.
WAS HE OVERRATED? MAYBE... BUT NOT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU GOTTA TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE...MOST LIKELY SOMEBODY WE THINK IS INVINCIBLE.... GETS KNOCKED OFF BY SOMEBODY YOU DIDNT EXPECT...
THATS FIGHTING MAN...A WIN OR LOSS, IS A PUNCH AWAY...THROW SUBS,CHOKES,AND ALL THE OTHER STRIKES IN THE MIX...ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE...BUT THATS THE BEAUTY OF IT.
People it's all opinions in the end stop getting all butthurt. People like different things give your input and keep it moving. I really just like hearing other peoples point of view on MMA. But some people get a little too emotional if you say something about there favorite fighter. Good stuff KrazeeRDM and WXS Stomper keep it going..
only thing i disagree with you about is that chuck is overrated. hate him or love him it is a fact he was not overrated, especially if you dont find wand or rampage overrated. that's all. i was never a chuck fan but i understood the dude was a legit good fighter and fought the best and beat most of them. i like rampage and wand WAAAY more than chuck, but i'm a realest and know he was far from overrated, thats all.