The fear of death

[SeriouslyThug]

There is a difference between Self and Mind. Thoughts are mind, as are ambitions, fears, etc. The Self is the observer that is watching you make these decisions, watching you comb your hair to look pretty and soothe the ego/mind.

The mind is still a wonderful tool, but as you can see instead of us using it, we are the tool of the mind.

you can still get liberated from the mind while you are still alive, as many have done so.

 

[JoMoDo]

I suggest Carlos Castenda's (sp) 'Journey to Ixtalan'

espcially the chapter 'Death as an Advisor'

 

[BASEDVATO]

Mescaline and DMT are suppose to give you trips that will let you experience a spiritual world, It will give you a glimpse of whats could come after your dead... I believe this is why many Shamanistic cultures do not have the same anxiety of death as the western world.

 

[rekomstop]

^^^WHAT!!??

i want to hear more responses on this...it is interesting..

em, that was very close on what comes to mind..

you see, perfect example of 2 people on different part of the(ir) journey.

i've had many responses just like these 2, and some just ask me for more info about it..

all i can say is, fear is never gonna liberate anyone.

 

[handbook]

death will be the greatest thing we will experience, we'll be recycled into cosmic dust and energy, "one" with the universe "god" for some "reincarnation" possibly...i've experienced death on a high dose of mushrooms, this was my 2nd experience and i was tripping wayy too hard and went under the blanket so it was just me inside my slightly depressed mind and seemed no different from the physical reality, i wanted/thought i could fly/kill myself so i was on my balcolny and jumped, thought it worked for half a second but then realized i couldn't fly and was plummeting so i prepared for the collision and right when it happened a bright white flash happened and i was in the most blissful state i have ever experienced in my entire life, enlightenment, call it god, nirvana, heaven, doesn't matter cause they're all apart of the same thing. after a bit the state started to fade and my thoughts were telling me why not go out and do it forreals but thoughts of family and trying to make a better life for em, "love," was holding me back and i was reallly considering jumping when i got out of the blanket it felt like a rebirth and i felt so great and refreshed and wanted to explore the world like it was new to me. to date i haven't had a trip that has been soo intense on my mind, body and spirit. this was probably the greatest trip on mushrooms i have ever had and i am very fond of mushrooms, sometimes too fond.

 

[rekomstop]

yeah i used to think drugs could liberate someone unto God. but i still think its not full truth.
i think drugs in general allow your body to see multiple points of view, but still never grasp the Nothing(or Everything)

i definitely wouldn't find many of my thoughts possible coming from a western culture without weed or Salvia, tho.

 

[NovaFire]

you see, perfect example of 2 people on different part of the(ir) journey.

i've had many responses just like these 2, and some just ask me for more info about it..

all i can say is, fear is never gonna liberate anyone.

my reaction was in response to you saying that you could have been all those different people and animals. Ive thought about stuff like this, not what you said in particular, but how we can think in different perspectives, and the same question always comes up. How do i know that "this" is real and not a delusinal thought?

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

death will be the greatest thing we will experience, we'll be recycled into cosmic dust and energy, "one" with the universe "god" for some "reincarnation" possibly...i've experienced death on a high dose of mushrooms, this was my 2nd experience and i was tripping wayy too hard and went under the blanket so it was just me inside my slightly depressed mind and seemed no different from the physical reality, i wanted/thought i could fly/kill myself so i was on my balcolny and jumped, thought it worked for half a second but then realized i couldn't fly and was plummeting so i prepared for the collision and right when it happened a bright white flash happened and i was in the most blissful state i have ever experienced in my entire life, enlightenment, call it god, nirvana, heaven, doesn't matter cause they're all apart of the same thing. after a bit the state started to fade and my thoughts were telling me why not go out and do it forreals but thoughts of family and trying to make a better life for em, "love," was holding me back and i was reallly considering jumping when i got out of the blanket it felt like a rebirth and i felt so great and refreshed and wanted to explore the world like it was new to me. to date i haven't had a trip that has been soo intense on my mind, body and spirit. this was probably the greatest trip on mushrooms i have ever had and i am very fond of mushrooms, sometimes too fond.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

You werent "dead", you were just extremely fuckin high on shrooms.

Lets get one thing straight, NO ONE on here knows what its like to be dead...because you are all ALIVE (unless you have BEEN dead, and resisitated to life).

 

[KingBravo]

Im not afraid of "being dead" at all. Death is just a part of life. I think when one is dead, thats it ,,,they are dead. I look at human/animal life much more simple than the most.

However,, im slightly afraid of dieing. Just the possible phyical pain and the sorro of friends & family.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I'm not afraid of death, just afraid of dieing. That makes sense? Meaning, I don't want to go yet because I need to accomplish a few more things...death, or non-existence, doesn't scare me (it will be exactly like how it was before you were born ).

 

[daluvlymel]

im okay with death...death is a means to a new when i think about it...a chance to be someone or something different...i once read a story of a boy that had a birthmark on his head. He recalled living another life, and knew who killed him and who his previous family was. they took the kid to where he believed he had lived. the family of that person who died asked the child a series of questions. he answered them perfectly and said he was shot right in the spot of his birthmark. now the kid visits the other family often.

if reincarnation is true- I believe if we knew every life we have lived it would clowd our judgement on the current. for example. your girlfriend now could have been your enemy in a last life and could have plotted against you but in this life you fight and its as a means of working out the unresolved issues in a sense so perhaps you can just move forward...who knows...no-one will know till we die but my theory is death probably is a lot like sleep and your soul drifts in and out of different places with no control or connection to one object from keeping it to wander...maybe thats why people have to go to a light and other side? no one will know the truth until they die..

 

[EDJ]

WELCOME TO MY WORLD....... IF YOU WOULD OF DID A SEARCH..........

 

[Jim_beam]

I do not fear death, I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it - Mark Twain

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

I don't fear death..
i've been dead once already...
and I must say it was quite liberating.. you might think of it as thearpy...

and yes I had to be on a respirator to come back to life...

Now... When I was "dead" I felt at peace.. and very free...

I think after that tragic event happen.. not other problem.. ever seems
to big now..

Now i don't want to die.. but I am not afraid of death...

I feel my soul is eternal.. and maybe.. after I die..
I'll keep moving to another destiny...
I'm not sure...

What I do.. know.. is that I don't fear death...
because.. when I died.. it was when I felt 100% free
You never feel so free.. as when you know you will die soon...
it's peaceful....

Now if you can find that same feeling of freedom and bliss
while alive.. then you might fear death...
but Death... is when you are free from anything that torments your soul
in this life...

Just my view on it.. but to me death is nothing to fear..
I've seen my loved ones die before my eyes..
and tasted death myself... so It's nothing to fear to me..
People who have never seen or almost died..
are the ones who fear death...

 

[handbook]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

You werent "dead", you were just extremely fuckin high on shrooms.

Lets get one thing straight, NO ONE on here knows what its like to be dead...because you are all ALIVE (unless you have BEEN dead, and resisitated to life).

don't people who've had near death experiences say there was a light? or something along those lines.

 

[MAVA]

great shit

 

[daluvlymel]

You have no idea if anyone here had a death experience..that's not what was asked..you fear death but death isn't nothing to fear..everyone must die at some point..embrace life now instead of dwelling on death n when it will come..

p.s. im glad everyone came out to discuss this.. carry on

 

[NovaFire]

^^^
a true samuri meditates on death everyday. This gives us a perspective on life and makes us more aware of how we use our time.

 

[rekomstop]

a true philosopher is anticipating and looks forward to death of the body.^ (just to add on)

but yea novafire, i actually thought of things/feelings i had attachment too, i'm a huge 'joker' so i was laughing about all the things that i have realized about myself
but yeah no doubt i was a man a couple fuckin times.
its not the most serious thing in the world to me, either, like who is to say that i wasn't something before, when i believe everything is part of everything.

but yeah mel, me and my man know that our souls have met before. i know we have been married n stuff before. i have had psychic moments when we FIRST started actually talking, i would feel the thought, no matter how mundane, i would FEEL what he was about to say and think IN me, and i stopped him right before and iw as like "were you about to say this n this?" he's like 'wtf!!'

that was in the first couple weeks of us actually knowing eachother.

 

[Talus]

you live till you die