THE FAKEST RELIgION
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There is a word everyone should look into. It's called THEOPHANY. It comes from the greek word theophaneia. You may have to do some digging to find teh word and its meaning but look into it. When you research the word the majority of your findings will probably deal with January 6th and the Feast of Theophany. Dig a bit deeper....
Malak (angels) are messengers but research Malakim, Hamalik and malik YHWH.
Concerning WHAT Abraham saw I don't know. I do know he interacted with THE LORD. I might look into other translations to see how this word is used in this instance. I do know however that he did interact with three beings. The fact that he saw them, ran towards them, bowed, spoke to them and offered to wash their feet should be enough evidence to show he isn't speaking to God in his mind. The fact that these men ATE and interacted with Sarah should also show that abraham actually saw something and interacted with it.
I don't know if THE ANGEL OF THE LORD is preincarnate Yeshua/Jesus, Gabraiel OR Metatron BUT in some cases it refers to a "regular" angel. I do know in SOME cases The angel of the LORD has YHWH'S name, power and shekinah. Read Gen 16. In Judges 13 this angel of the LORD is simply a messenger. In the new testament the angel of the LORD appears several times. In matt 2:19 the angel of the LORD appears ****AFTER**** Yeshua/Jesus was born.
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Malak (angels) are messengers but research Malakim, Hamalik and malik YHWH.
Concerning WHAT Abraham saw I don't know. I do know he interacted with THE LORD. I might look into other translations to see how this word is used in this instance. I do know however that he did interact with three beings. The fact that he saw them, ran towards them, bowed, spoke to them and offered to wash their feet should be enough evidence to show he isn't speaking to God in his mind. The fact that these men ATE and interacted with Sarah should also show that abraham actually saw something and interacted with it.
I don't know if THE ANGEL OF THE LORD is preincarnate Yeshua/Jesus, Gabraiel OR Metatron BUT in some cases it refers to a "regular" angel. I do know in SOME cases The angel of the LORD has YHWH'S name, power and shekinah. Read Gen 16. In Judges 13 this angel of the LORD is simply a messenger. In the new testament the angel of the LORD appears several times. In matt 2:19 the angel of the LORD appears ****AFTER**** Yeshua/Jesus was born.
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Migg Like I said it could be redaction. It's everywhere in the bible. In Genises alone, we have two examples of God creating the earth. In one he creates it in ONE day, while in the Other he creates it in 6. That's not to say that either is wrong, its just a different way to tell the story. I believe redaction rears its head again when Jesus gives his sermon at the mountain. In one occurence he is on a mountain while in another he is in a level plain. Same story, conveys the same message just worded differently. Maybe to get the point across to the particular audience of that time the editor made it seems God was reall there when he wasnt. Maybe one of the Angels represented God to the extent that he took Yawehs name in that particular story. As my greek, latin, hebrew is weak (or non-existant) i cant possibly look into this much further than I have.
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There's no evidence at all. The funny shit is that they get all butt hurt when you question their religion, when there is no proof behind it. If it is fact, then prove it.
Then they go and call other religions "pagan" because they use astrology or because they have 'gods.' In the Bible it says you only pray to God, only judged by God, etc. Then why do people pray to Jesus, the Virgin, Michael...sounds pagan to me.
In the Mexica religion there is one God, and he/she is very provable. Ometeotl is God, and there are no others. The Quetzalcoatl and others you may hear of are deities. Ometeotl is everything. There is no good and evil; good and evil are inside of man. Ometeotl is the ground, the air, the trees, the sky, which are all visible with the eye and easily proven. Christians got to learn how to think for themselves.
Then they go and call other religions "pagan" because they use astrology or because they have 'gods.' In the Bible it says you only pray to God, only judged by God, etc. Then why do people pray to Jesus, the Virgin, Michael...sounds pagan to me.
In the Mexica religion there is one God, and he/she is very provable. Ometeotl is God, and there are no others. The Quetzalcoatl and others you may hear of are deities. Ometeotl is everything. There is no good and evil; good and evil are inside of man. Ometeotl is the ground, the air, the trees, the sky, which are all visible with the eye and easily proven. Christians got to learn how to think for themselves.
when it comes to christianity, i believe the bible is hard evidence. but i think christians are the fakest fallowers. every once in a while you meet some one who is totally dedicated and gives it there all, but in my experiences most christian churches have just been popularity contests. no real hear in it.
Good shit Ruthless Rick.
@Edj, lamest response ever.
Skeptic - "Where is the proof?"
Believer - "The bible is proof"
Skeptic - "How so?"
Believer - "Because it's the word of god"
Skeptic - "How do you know?"
Believer - "Because it is"
yada yada yada
Simple fact: NO HARD EVIDENCE. All you have is FAITH that it is the word fo god. That is it. No logic, no reason, just blind faith.
@Edj, lamest response ever.
Skeptic - "Where is the proof?"
Believer - "The bible is proof"
Skeptic - "How so?"
Believer - "Because it's the word of god"
Skeptic - "How do you know?"
Believer - "Because it is"
yada yada yada
Simple fact: NO HARD EVIDENCE. All you have is FAITH that it is the word fo god. That is it. No logic, no reason, just blind faith.
Quite interesting topic
For one, it is pointless to go back and forth over the fact of whether God exists or doesn't. He was, still is and always be the final authority. And he alone will make justification for himself.
I do however understand the strong emotions that come into play with a christian defending his faith and giving god the honor and glory only like they can. Their proof not only lies in their testimonies, but also in the scientific research that has been done. Arifacts, Mummies that were found, that had the individual holding the holy writ in his arm.
I remember my son falling limp in the arms of my lady, face loosing color breathing slowy disapating, my sanity and serenity rested in the arms of God. I infact was helpless as he was.
He had no known health or medical conditions, but the first thing I relied on was the word of God. I held him and prayed passionately to God that he would restore the life. I never had to call 911, except to God and he answered.
He brought restoration back to my son and to him I am forever indebted to him. I know the skeptics will always raise the eyebrow of criticism and justfully so. They have every right to believe in Satan and worship him or whomever they choose.
I have had other experiences as well. They aren't all about defying death, but they vary and they line up with the word of God and his promises.
God will never force himself on the unbeliever, or the one who denies him, that spirit was prevalent when he walked the face of the earth then, when he performed miracles right in their face. And it is still here today.
To the believer, don't waste your time trying to convince someone of Gods exixtence that doesn't want to have anything to do with him in the first place.
God alone seeks those that are hungry for his truths and in the end he will laugh at the calamity of the skeptic. Can we proove he exists? Easily? Can they proove he doesnt? Sure. they will always only be able to proove he doesn't exist to themselves.
For starters he doesn't exist to them anyway. No need to waste time, Cause for every hard fact you will bring their will be a loophole to counter it in their mind.
Faith to Me
I do blindly trust God to do that which is right by me in his eyes. He has given every man a measure of faith. Now what you choose to put it in up to the individual. So what does the skeptic say about all of this? It really doesn't matter what they say!
For one, it is pointless to go back and forth over the fact of whether God exists or doesn't. He was, still is and always be the final authority. And he alone will make justification for himself.
I do however understand the strong emotions that come into play with a christian defending his faith and giving god the honor and glory only like they can. Their proof not only lies in their testimonies, but also in the scientific research that has been done. Arifacts, Mummies that were found, that had the individual holding the holy writ in his arm.
I remember my son falling limp in the arms of my lady, face loosing color breathing slowy disapating, my sanity and serenity rested in the arms of God. I infact was helpless as he was.
He had no known health or medical conditions, but the first thing I relied on was the word of God. I held him and prayed passionately to God that he would restore the life. I never had to call 911, except to God and he answered.
He brought restoration back to my son and to him I am forever indebted to him. I know the skeptics will always raise the eyebrow of criticism and justfully so. They have every right to believe in Satan and worship him or whomever they choose.
I have had other experiences as well. They aren't all about defying death, but they vary and they line up with the word of God and his promises.
God will never force himself on the unbeliever, or the one who denies him, that spirit was prevalent when he walked the face of the earth then, when he performed miracles right in their face. And it is still here today.
To the believer, don't waste your time trying to convince someone of Gods exixtence that doesn't want to have anything to do with him in the first place.
God alone seeks those that are hungry for his truths and in the end he will laugh at the calamity of the skeptic. Can we proove he exists? Easily? Can they proove he doesnt? Sure. they will always only be able to proove he doesn't exist to themselves.
For starters he doesn't exist to them anyway. No need to waste time, Cause for every hard fact you will bring their will be a loophole to counter it in their mind.
Faith to Me
I do blindly trust God to do that which is right by me in his eyes. He has given every man a measure of faith. Now what you choose to put it in up to the individual. So what does the skeptic say about all of this? It really doesn't matter what they say!
