THE FAKEST RELIgION
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So you managed to respond after all eh?
I bet you were thinking the same about me. Well I’m back, just finished moving to an apartment of my own and getting personal shit straightened out. Mad ass fuck though cuz suckas done took one of my homeboys (would be producer) out the game….
Any how….
Me biased? Like the bias you show with your heretic Jehova Witnesses ideals?
So be it…. We’ve already covered some of my interpretations that conflict with Heresy’s and your interpretations.
The end of days. The final days before the 1st judgement. The tribulation period in which the 7 seals are removed….
Ok let me stop here for a second cuz I played along enough.
Let me ask you this; do you ask me this because you are putting me to test? Or because you honestly do not know?
There, I’ll continue and answer your question,
The “Great Multitude” according to the elder who spoke to John are the people (Jesus’ sheep) who lived and died through the tribulation period.
I’ve given you enough. Try and dispute my interpretations of hell and the anointed ones.
It is clearer than water and only a person in denial will even attempt to dispute it (as you’ve already done with “hell”).
Here’s an example for the anointed ones, read Revelation 14: 1-5
I know that the bible doesn’t contradict itself as proven from the above passage.
But YOUR interpretation does contradict it. But you “try” to twist it around so that it doesn’t seem that way.
DONG! Wrong again.
“And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image”
You “assume” that they were simply erased but they weren’t.
What happened to the Nephilim? You talk about cross referencing but have you ever crossed referenced the Apocrypha? Or the book of Enoch? Isn’t it the spirits of the Nephilim who were killed in the flood who became what we know now as Demons?
I threw everything I knew from Catholicism when my Grandmother passed away.
But you on the other hand still cling on to JW’s beliefs.
“Oh no I won’t celebrate Christmas cuz that’s what Catholics do! I won’t do this cuz they do it! And I won’t do that cuz them other people do it!”
Heresy at it’s finest….
You’ve yet to show any of that. It only appears contradictory to you because you wanna see it that way. It’s the usual case of being addicted to your own ideas.
I meant that it doesn’t have to be a literal lake.
Are you forgetting what Jesus said about sin?
Did he not say every sin is equal? (With the exception of the sin against the Spirit of coarse)
Simple, this phrase was not a parable because it required no explanation as Jesus’ other parables.
You really do not understand the entire bible do you?
At one point God made this covenant with Abraham because he truly loved God.
God “blessed” him and his children. Now blessed doesn’t necessarily mean salvation.
Even if it were, it doesn’t change the fact that Jesus changed the rules to salvation.
In the days of Abraham, salvation was achieved by sacrificial offerings to God.
It later changed to following the 10 commandments in the days of Noah.
Now in the days of Jesus and till present day, salvation is achieved by accepting God’s own sacrifice of Jesus.
First of all the water that we're reffering to, isn’t meant to put out the fire of hell. It is meant to keep you from “falling” in hell.
This water alone has the power to keep you from burning in the flames of hades. But this very same water cannot help one who is already in hades….
The story is literal. Only that the water is used as metaphor for the Word.
Continued.
I bet you were thinking the same about me. Well I’m back, just finished moving to an apartment of my own and getting personal shit straightened out. Mad ass fuck though cuz suckas done took one of my homeboys (would be producer) out the game….
Any how….
Me biased? Like the bias you show with your heretic Jehova Witnesses ideals?
So be it…. We’ve already covered some of my interpretations that conflict with Heresy’s and your interpretations.
The end of days. The final days before the 1st judgement. The tribulation period in which the 7 seals are removed….
Ok let me stop here for a second cuz I played along enough.
Let me ask you this; do you ask me this because you are putting me to test? Or because you honestly do not know?
There, I’ll continue and answer your question,
The “Great Multitude” according to the elder who spoke to John are the people (Jesus’ sheep) who lived and died through the tribulation period.
I’ve given you enough. Try and dispute my interpretations of hell and the anointed ones.
It is clearer than water and only a person in denial will even attempt to dispute it (as you’ve already done with “hell”).
Here’s an example for the anointed ones, read Revelation 14: 1-5
I know that the bible doesn’t contradict itself as proven from the above passage.
But YOUR interpretation does contradict it. But you “try” to twist it around so that it doesn’t seem that way.
DONG! Wrong again.
“And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image”
You “assume” that they were simply erased but they weren’t.
What happened to the Nephilim? You talk about cross referencing but have you ever crossed referenced the Apocrypha? Or the book of Enoch? Isn’t it the spirits of the Nephilim who were killed in the flood who became what we know now as Demons?
I threw everything I knew from Catholicism when my Grandmother passed away.
But you on the other hand still cling on to JW’s beliefs.
“Oh no I won’t celebrate Christmas cuz that’s what Catholics do! I won’t do this cuz they do it! And I won’t do that cuz them other people do it!”
Heresy at it’s finest….
You’ve yet to show any of that. It only appears contradictory to you because you wanna see it that way. It’s the usual case of being addicted to your own ideas.
I meant that it doesn’t have to be a literal lake.
Are you forgetting what Jesus said about sin?
Did he not say every sin is equal? (With the exception of the sin against the Spirit of coarse)
Simple, this phrase was not a parable because it required no explanation as Jesus’ other parables.
You really do not understand the entire bible do you?
At one point God made this covenant with Abraham because he truly loved God.
God “blessed” him and his children. Now blessed doesn’t necessarily mean salvation.
Even if it were, it doesn’t change the fact that Jesus changed the rules to salvation.
In the days of Abraham, salvation was achieved by sacrificial offerings to God.
It later changed to following the 10 commandments in the days of Noah.
Now in the days of Jesus and till present day, salvation is achieved by accepting God’s own sacrifice of Jesus.
First of all the water that we're reffering to, isn’t meant to put out the fire of hell. It is meant to keep you from “falling” in hell.
This water alone has the power to keep you from burning in the flames of hades. But this very same water cannot help one who is already in hades….
The story is literal. Only that the water is used as metaphor for the Word.
Continued.
The apostles spoke of it before the church did.
Yes and what I find tells me a lot about human nature. The flaws in human nature that is….
Read the books following the gospels.
They is the apostles and the guy is the heretic man who tries to be different just to be different. A symptom of selfishness, the biggest flaw of human nature….
In the heart was selfishness at the root of defiance.
You talk about the research being what’s important but the research is his fruit. And you playa, is eating that fruit.
True, that is my biggest flaw. I know what I must do, but yet I do not do it or end up doing the opposite. (Human nature)
Only the Spirit of God can help me and everyone else who suffers the same….
You should test the word of man but not the Word of God.
After all you and I right now are testing the word of one mere man….
The Truth is obvious. Compare the actual scripture with their own research, you will see that they are blinding you from the right path. But I won’t single them out, Catholics and Protestants do the same. Not as blatant as JW’s and Mormons but it’s just as damaging.
Oh yeah, rulers do not need calibration.
I am not lying man, I thought I saw the what ever the JW bible’s name is, at the top of the page you took me too. I had several windows open lookin at different versions of the scripture. Maybe I looked at the wrong window. Who knows? I don’t care….
Hmmm… I cannot remember why I edited the last post. Could’ve been that I cut it shorter, could’ve been that I added something.
LOL! But no bro, I never talk shit to my friends. Unless I’m joking around for a few laughs, but never shit talking. Not my nature….
I never tried to discredit you, that is how you are taking it. It’s typical offensive human nature in your part.
Nuthin personal on my part, that’s why I could care less. I stated that even when I “allegedly” attempted to discredit you. Go back and see for yourself.
LOL! Where did you get the apple from? Genesis only says that it was fruit….
Great! Go back to my last reply above this one.
And you need to open an account with Soundclick.com cuz MP3.com has ceased to be LOL!
Yes and what I find tells me a lot about human nature. The flaws in human nature that is….
Read the books following the gospels.
They is the apostles and the guy is the heretic man who tries to be different just to be different. A symptom of selfishness, the biggest flaw of human nature….
In the heart was selfishness at the root of defiance.
You talk about the research being what’s important but the research is his fruit. And you playa, is eating that fruit.
True, that is my biggest flaw. I know what I must do, but yet I do not do it or end up doing the opposite. (Human nature)
Only the Spirit of God can help me and everyone else who suffers the same….
You should test the word of man but not the Word of God.
After all you and I right now are testing the word of one mere man….
The Truth is obvious. Compare the actual scripture with their own research, you will see that they are blinding you from the right path. But I won’t single them out, Catholics and Protestants do the same. Not as blatant as JW’s and Mormons but it’s just as damaging.
Oh yeah, rulers do not need calibration.
I am not lying man, I thought I saw the what ever the JW bible’s name is, at the top of the page you took me too. I had several windows open lookin at different versions of the scripture. Maybe I looked at the wrong window. Who knows? I don’t care….
Hmmm… I cannot remember why I edited the last post. Could’ve been that I cut it shorter, could’ve been that I added something.
LOL! But no bro, I never talk shit to my friends. Unless I’m joking around for a few laughs, but never shit talking. Not my nature….
I never tried to discredit you, that is how you are taking it. It’s typical offensive human nature in your part.
Nuthin personal on my part, that’s why I could care less. I stated that even when I “allegedly” attempted to discredit you. Go back and see for yourself.
LOL! Where did you get the apple from? Genesis only says that it was fruit….
Great! Go back to my last reply above this one.
And you need to open an account with Soundclick.com cuz MP3.com has ceased to be LOL!
I talked with someone doing a Bible study with JW's and she didn't know anything about this. She did talk about some prophesy that they interpret as Jesus taking over control of God's kingdom, but without returning to Earth. However, she did state that the Bible says that Jesus won't die again, so she doesn't see why they would believe he'd be back.
I dunno exactly what's what because I'm not religious, so I can't comment on validity or anything.
I dunno exactly what's what because I'm not religious, so I can't comment on validity or anything.
I just did a quick search on Harold Camping.
Looks like he's going around urging Christians to abandon their churches.
Ummmm.... I don't know what to say about this. I mean I understand his point, just about every church is corrupt. But we need to be very careful about this.
His intentions are legit and so were Martin Luthers' but in the end it ended up hurting Christianity.
No need for division, only education. I guess the only remedy Harold sees is through division and then education.
I can see his argument, I just don't like the dividing part. There is power in numbers, Satan's only chance is to divide us amongst ourselves. Which he has already accomplished, my solution?
Instead of asking people to stop going to church, go to their churches and educate them. Question their pastors and priests in front of everyone and so on. That's what Jesus did, and later his apostles did the same. It worked for them and it can work for us as well. This will then open the publics eyes, they'll either leave their churches and start new ones, or remove the pastor/priest and put one of their own....
Looks like he's going around urging Christians to abandon their churches.
Ummmm.... I don't know what to say about this. I mean I understand his point, just about every church is corrupt. But we need to be very careful about this.
His intentions are legit and so were Martin Luthers' but in the end it ended up hurting Christianity.
No need for division, only education. I guess the only remedy Harold sees is through division and then education.
I can see his argument, I just don't like the dividing part. There is power in numbers, Satan's only chance is to divide us amongst ourselves. Which he has already accomplished, my solution?
Instead of asking people to stop going to church, go to their churches and educate them. Question their pastors and priests in front of everyone and so on. That's what Jesus did, and later his apostles did the same. It worked for them and it can work for us as well. This will then open the publics eyes, they'll either leave their churches and start new ones, or remove the pastor/priest and put one of their own....
Ok I just checked out Camping's "Family Radio" website and I see their point. They say that according to the bible, the church will be judged first, and then everyone else. That's why they want everyone else to hear their ministry.
I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact the only thing I disagree with is that it's not close to the end of the world yet.
We're closer, but it's not like it's around the corner as everyone else thinks it is....
I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact the only thing I disagree with is that it's not close to the end of the world yet.
We're closer, but it's not like it's around the corner as everyone else thinks it is....
ya, like Heresy said family radio.
i have listened to him from time to time and agree with most of the things he says because he uses the bible as proof for just about everything he says.
now the only problem that i got with him (but i think you might agree with him) is where he says that the "church age" is over and that the spirit of Jesus Christ is no longer in the Church (all christian demonination).
but anyway i thought i heard you say something about not liking churches.
anyway he is based out of Oakland and is on the radio everday and on channel 64 on Antenna (dont know the exact channel number on cable) in case you want to check him out.
i have listened to him from time to time and agree with most of the things he says because he uses the bible as proof for just about everything he says.
now the only problem that i got with him (but i think you might agree with him) is where he says that the "church age" is over and that the spirit of Jesus Christ is no longer in the Church (all christian demonination).
but anyway i thought i heard you say something about not liking churches.
anyway he is based out of Oakland and is on the radio everday and on channel 64 on Antenna (dont know the exact channel number on cable) in case you want to check him out.