the question is do you think the Earth is 6000 years old or not
just say "yes" or "no", it's as simple as that
you refuse to answer every time you're asked this question and this is called being intellectually dishonesty and coward
I explained why I was NOT going to answer. ***IF*** you had come straight out and asked instead of typing fuck shit and trying to insult me I would have answered you. YOU set the tone of the convo, and I already told you why after you used your fallacies that the "question", if it can truly be called that, did NOT deserve an answer.
so it's case 3 I guess....
and you don't believe in YEC but you defend the right of some frauds to ruin the education of kids who attend the museum?
Case 3 you guess? LMAO! On
page one I said:
I don't give a damn about this museum or any "science" museum, but the point is they have a right to express themselves and their beliefs as long as it is inaccordance with the law of this country.
On page two I said:
No, I officially declared a FREEDOM OF SPEECH position. They have a right to promote their views in accordance with the law of this country. Some may not agree with it, I DON'T agree with spending millions of dollars on some wacky museum when that money can be used to benefit the poor and help children (which would be a better "christian" cause.) However, they have teh right to do so.
Why did it take you multiple pages to "guess" my position has more to do with freedom of speech when I OPENLY stated it on pages 1 and 2? :dead:
And no, your claim is far fetched. They are not ruining the education of anyone. If the museum just opened less than 2 years ago, on what grounds can you say it is going to ruin a childs education? For all we know every child who goes there may take the information to school, get attacked by the teacher for promoting said information, and ultimately REJECT the information based on the teachers actions. So in reality, this museum
may actually be counterproductive to their cause, but leave it up to you and your sidekicks to go loony over it.
It does matter what you answer
If it matters what I answer WHY did you provide the words in parenthesis?
(in which case he will only confirm how dumb and anti-science he is)
Why answer YES when you already have your mind made up?
(in which case he will leave us wonder why he supports something he doesn't believe in (I call this hypocrisy))
Why answer NO when you already have your mind made up?
There is NO logical reason to answer because an answer is NOT the answer. The answer is to R-E-A-D your so-called question CRITICALLY and NOT respond to it.
In the future, if you TRULY want an answer from someone, DON'T poison the well. Allow the person to answer, and you'll be able to get what you desire.
I am trying to have discussions based on reason and evidence, what I am getting is How-To-Have-10,000-Posts-Without-Ever-Really-Saying-Anything 101
see above, and if I ask you how and why you actually believe post count is a factor you'll either blab on or not answer so let us move on.
I have explained it in THIS post, and I explained it in my PREVIOUS post directed to you.
years of journal clubs, reading papers, solving problems and designing, performing and analyzing experiments give much better training in critical thinking than any bullshit humanity education you can get
Yet you openly admit to using fallacies. Good job, sport. All those years wasted because as I have shown before, you lack social skills and can't talk to people in a normal fashion unless they agree with you. Take a look at convo's between you and myself, you'll notice a pattern and you'll notice I am right. And lol@bullshit humanity education. At least I am getting one, and I am HAPPY persuing my goals and watching them go as planned.
You are the one who started with the ad hominem arguments a long time ago.
You sure about that? If I did do so, can you explain why/how it is applicable to this thread?
I am not a native english speaker and I do not claim to know the language better than most people here and I do make mistakes. Yet instead of focusing on what I'm saying, you and others started arguing about how the way I am saying it discredits what I am saying. This was long before my post on page 2 and if I had the time to look for posts I would give you plenty of examples.
ThaG, I have told you that I don't give a SHIT if you make typos and that I make them myself. I'll put a comma here, forget to put a semi colon there, mispell shit etc. The point is, people COMPREHEND what I am conveying to them because I speak cogently and have command presence. YOUR sole method of discussing things here is to RIDICULE others, while mine is to ASK QUESTIONS derived SOLELY on what they have said or implied. However, if I need to insult someone I will. Why you chose to harp on typos is beyond me, but if you want to use it as a crutch go ahead. But when you do just make sure you cross your I's and dot your T's because you made yourself look like a fool when you utilized spell check (something I rarely do) and STILL had more fuck ups than I did.
If I ask you to CLARIFY what you are saying, and you continue to NOT do so, I can only assume that you have mental issues going on, are under the influence of a controlled substance or that english is not your native tongue. You have been asked time and time again by others and myself to clarify what you are saying, and no one is discrediting what you are saying because you don't type well. People discredit your shit because you insult, they ask you to clarify, you insult some more, they ask you to clarify again, you insult some more, and they say to hell with it.
Yes, because you misspelled the same word the same way twice in the same post.
And I also spelled it that way in another thread weeks ago. I'm also sure that if you were to google it you'd find some other person on the net doing teh same thing. The point is YOU introduced something that had NOTHING to do with the topic, and you did so because you are still holding a grudge and have a personal issue with me. Talk about violation of the rules. Where is our precious atheist "goderator" when you need him?
This can't be a coincidence unless you type by copy-pasting the words you already typed.
:SMH:
I make mistakes in English and I admit it, the difference between me and you is that I never make mistakes in my own language, even with very sophisticated words.
Suck it up!
Yes you do. If you can't get it right with spell check you can't get it right period. Relax bud, suck it up, and realize that you are holding a grudge over nothing important.
However, what does any of this have to do with what I said? I directed my
words at someone else, you interjected, directed a post at me, utilized spell check, pointed out my errors, yet FAILED to run spell check on yourself. The entire scenario caused you to appear as an even bigger dummy, so keep digging the ditch, Bucko.
These are two completely different things
We need a decrease in population (5 billions to be exact) and very good purely secular education for the rest.
We definitely don't need all those children in the third world who are destined to become either uneducated indoctrinated fanatics, or uneducated and ignorant cheap work force, or both. We also don't need more fat dumb ignorant american kids rejecting science and thinking they know better; plus USA is overpopulated too.
So the best thing to do is kill them off, and only go with those who agree with your views? The best thing to do is kill them off and murder any chance of change they may have? The best thing to do is kill them off and murder their chance at life?
You are a NAZI.
The problem is that the two things (ignorance, religion and lack of education/miseducation on one side and overpopulation on the other) are closely connected as every major religion teaches that birth control is a bad thing and people should have as many kids as possible. There is an inverse correlation between the educational status of people and the number of kids they have and the opposite is true about religion (both Christianity and Islam)
ThaG, why is it that China, has a large population? Are you
really going to sit here and tell us that the main reason places are over populated is because every major religion teaches birth control as a bad thing and people should have as many kids as possible? ThaG, MANY sects of islam allow for abortion, and their books have verses pertaining to the subject, when it should be used, and when it is not to be used. In regards to the bible, it should be obvious that some form of birth control be implemented. Have you ever read the verses about a man being with ONE woman? Have you ever read the verses about CELIBACY?
In summary: to solve the overpopulation problem we need to get rid of religion and give children very good education so they 1. don't have more than one kid, 2. realize the significance of the problem
To solve the problem of overpopulation we need to address caste systems and social inequalities. In addition, we need to address resources and immigration, address the lack of education, address the fact that certain countries have terrible infrastructures which contribute to that lack of education, address white americas and europes quest for imperialism, and address how SCIENCE has INCREASED life expectancy and LOWERED mortality rates.
Your "lets get rid of religion" campaign will NEVER work and isn't logical, for MANY religions in this world see sex ONLY for procreation purposes, and MANY actually see sex as a BAD thing.
And since it's already late and we're already using 30% more resources than the planet can provide, we need to somehow get rid of 5 billion people ASAP. I know the truth hurts, but that doesn't make it less true
You prove me right every single time man.
The rational and sane thing to do is to kill 5 billions. Immediately. The rational and sane person also realizes this is impossible. The irrational and insane person prefers to bury his head in the sand as if the problem doesn't exist
Can someone PLEASE increase our sig size so we can have more characters?
Yes, I do and I spent a significant amount of time explaining you why. We have too many children, so many it's fucking up everything. We have very few bones which can help us understand the history of the planet. It's obvious which is more important, you just need to look at the bigger picture to understand
Refer to my last two comments.
I can shoot you some books that might improve your science education so you stop supporting anti-scientific positions. Are you going to read them? I doubt it. Save yourself the effort, I don't need your pdfs
Send them! I used to read a book a week, and I need to get back to doing so. You can send any pdf/ebooks/word text to
[email protected] or
[email protected]
Also, I already have books by Dawkins, Shanks and a couple of others, so I don't need more atheist lit.
