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Either you misinterpreted the low kick or I didn't explain myself very well.
What I ment with a low kick is just one particular kick.
I'll add a video to show you what I ment exactly
And for the close combat situations we can fire up a whole different discussion because I also have a thing or two about that on my mind.
I practice a system that is special developed for close combat and we practically never use knees.

This video is quitte long but the low kicks are performed perfectly by Ernesto Hoost here. Check out 0.43, 0.57, 1.52 or 2.10 sec for example. A low kick like that is devastating and down you go. When someone performs a kick like that on your upper thigh. No matter how big you are.
But he performs a lot more in this clip.


This is all I ment to say that the MMA guys would benefit a great deal if they would capitalize on this kick. Because I see them slacking in that. Also most MMA fighters I've seen don't have a proper defense against this kick.




I know about the Gracie family and the start of BJJ, I think BJJ is a very affective system. Probably the best ground fighting system there is. But like every other system. It's not complete. If you would practice only BJJ for example, you would be prepared for some guy punching or kicking (or even pinching) you on the ground. Like for instance a Pencak Silat Harimau player would do. And they in their return are not prepared for someone who plays BJJ. There isn't one complete system out there.



Oh but I understand the concept of JuJitsu/Ninjutsu very well, And I know about the history of Jujitsu or a lot of other martial arts for that matter. And I used to think a lot like you. But I know so much better now.
There isn't one 'established' or widely known system out there that impresses me anymore.
Let me tell you a thing or two about Jujitsu (from my point of view).

1. Jujitsu is focused on one attack from one opponent. (most people will not attack one punch at a time).
2. They practice their defense on a opponent who hits in a straight line (like a karate punch). But in all my life, I've never seen anyone fight like that. Practicing like this is just unrealistic.
3. Like all Japanese fighting styles, Jujitsu is static. I don't think that it started out that way, but it is now. They only practice "solid forms". And never go "outside the box".
4. They don't focus on kicking, punching or attacking so much but the focus is more on getting a arm bar, leg bar or what ever. Every fight is so quickly, you don't have any time for something like this during the fight. If however you need to control a person after you beat him up to wait for police to arrive or something. Then these techniques are the best to have.

But other then that, no I am sorry there are just too many disadvantages for jujitsu to be an effective MA system in this time.


As for the knife defenses. A lot of MA system practice knife defenses. I also know a lot of knife defenses and practice them on a almost daily basis for several years now.
You know what I do when someone comes up to me with a knife... I get the fuck out of there.
EXCEPT!! when the guy would hold a knife and stretched out his arm. This way you can tell the guy doesn't really want to harm you but he pulls out his knife because he is scared.
If someone pulls a knife and keeps it close to his own body, means this guy probably knows what he is doing and he is meaning to put that knife in me.
You can train against this all you want but that guy needs only one change and you could be dead. For what?

Knife fighting is even quicker then a regular fist fight. The best defense for this is. Get the fuck away from there. (at least that's how I see it but I think it's pointless to fight anyway, especially when someone pulls a knife).
Thats the shin kick you are talking about and yes it fucking hurts like hell, but if your opponent knows how to block it, you might need a new shin lol

GJJ doesn't seem complete now, because if you look at the UFC, all the fighters have some form of ground fighting behind them, but in the early days of MMA it was style v style like I said and GJJ came out on top.

I said you have common misconceptions about Ninjutsu, not Jujutsu. Ninjutsu like BJJ/GJJ use rolling in their practise every day to make it as realistic as possible with more attacks than a straight attack lol. With Ninjutsu you learn how to defend yourself from multiple angles of attack against weapons, punches and kicks (not high kicks) as well as throws, ground work, locks, snaps, chokes ect. ect.

and let me give you a situation with a knife. You are walking down the street with your wife and new born, are you still going to run or get the fuck out of there?
 
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Thats the shin kick you are talking about and yes it fucking hurts like hell, but if your opponent knows how to block it, you might need a new shin lol

GJJ doesn't seem complete now, because if you look at the UFC, all the fighters have some form of ground fighting behind them, but in the early days of MMA it was style v style like I said and GJJ came out on top.
I didn't knew you called it 'the shin kick' in Australia. We call it the low kick but I've also heard it was being referred to as a 'leg kick' but that was the kick I meant.
You will only break your leg if you do not master the technique properly. But there is danger in using any technique improperly.
BJJ is a good system but it is not complete. There is no one complete system, really.

I said you have common misconceptions about Ninjutsu, not Jujutsu. Ninjutsu like BJJ/GJJ use rolling in their practise every day to make it as realistic as possible with more attacks than a straight attack lol. With Ninjutsu you learn how to defend yourself from multiple angles of attack against weapons, punches and kicks (not high kicks) as well as throws, ground work, locks, snaps, chokes ect. ect.
Can you please post a video as accurate to your description so I can visualize what you mean.

and let me give you a situation with a knife. You are walking down the street with your wife and new born, are you still going to run or get the fuck out of there?
In this given situation I am happy to have been practicing all that time.
 

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I didn't knew you called it 'the shin kick' in Australia. We call it the low kick but I've also heard it was being referred to as a 'leg kick' but that was the kick I meant.
You will only break your leg if you do not master the technique properly. But there is danger in using any technique improperly.
BJJ is a good system but it is not complete. There is no one complete system, really.
Yes it is more of a slang term shin kick, but the proper term would be leg kick. I'm not arguing about complete systems man, any martial art would be good in certain situations, what I'm stating is that GJJ went up against other forms of martial arts and won, back when it was one style verse another style, not a mix of styles. Even so, Most MMA atheletes have GJJ/BJJ as their ground game, either that or wrestling or something else or atleast basic GJJ/BJJ principles.


Can you please post a video as accurate to your description so I can visualize what you mean.

What do you want a video of mate?
 
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Yes it is more of a slang term shin kick, but the proper term would be leg kick. I'm not arguing about complete systems man, any martial art would be good in certain situations, what I'm stating is that GJJ went up against other forms of martial arts and won, back when it was one style verse another style, not a mix of styles. Even so, Most MMA atheletes have GJJ/BJJ as their ground game, either that or wrestling or something else or atleast basic GJJ/BJJ principles.





What do you want a video of mate?
BJJ might have come out on top. But it was in a competition form.
And competition = unrealistic.

I would like to see a video of what you mean by your vision of ninjutsu. We misinterpreted each other before, so this way I can see excavate what you mean.
Because where I am from ninjitsu and jujitsu are both exactly the same only one is with weapons and the other without.
Not every MA is the same everywhere in the world..
 

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BJJ might have come out on top. But it was in a competition form.
And competition = unrealistic.

I would like to see a video of what you mean by your vision of ninjutsu. We misinterpreted each other before, so this way I can see excavate what you mean.
Because where I am from ninjitsu and jujitsu are both exactly the same only one is with weapons and the other without.
Not every MA is the same everywhere in the world..
And there is alot of things held back from GJJ when they entered competition, remember that. It wasn't just a sport form, that is what developed later because of the rules. Whereas Ninjutsu is not a sport, never has been never will be.

Jujutsu was developed for close quarter fighting with armor, for when the Samurai (the rich ruling class in Fuedal Japan) where dismounted from their horses and had to fight hand to hand.

Ninjutsu was developed by the Shinobi (the weak working class in Fuedal Japan) to fight against the Samurai and also uses stealth, assassination, espionage, weaponry and special tactics. Some of what is used by modern special forces around the world.

It would be better to have a look up for yourself instead of me telling you. If it interests you, it is worthy to spend some time reading up on it.
 
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why arent any celebrity bitches being called out for being cheating cumdumpsters you know theyre out there

whoopie goldberg cheating on her husband 3 times and shit admitting it on the view like its no biggie with no backlash, fuck that
 
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And there is alot of things held back from GJJ when they entered competition, remember that. It wasn't just a sport form, that is what developed later because of the rules. Whereas Ninjutsu is not a sport, never has been never will be.

Jujutsu was developed for close quarter fighting with armor, for when the Samurai (the rich ruling class in Fuedal Japan) where dismounted from their horses and had to fight hand to hand.

Ninjutsu was developed by the Shinobi (the weak working class in Fuedal Japan) to fight against the Samurai and also uses stealth, assassination, espionage, weaponry and special tactics. Some of what is used by modern special forces around the world.

It would be better to have a look up for yourself instead of me telling you. If it interests you, it is worthy to spend some time reading up on it.
I know what you mean and I must say I don't want to offend you but I am not at all impressed by any Japanese or Chinese for that matter MA.
I am interested in MA and I know a lot about a lot of styles, also about what you mentioned. But I am still not impressed. I used to be. But I know better now.

But BJJ is not the only version that is watered down, every MA is for competition form.
That's why being a 'champion' for anything doesn't really mean anything.
 

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I know what you mean and I must say I don't want to offend you but I am not at all impressed by any Japanese or Chinese for that matter MA.
I am interested in MA and I know a lot about a lot of styles, also about what you mentioned. But I am still not impressed. I used to be. But I know better now.

But BJJ is not the only version that is watered down, every MA is for competition form.
That's why being a 'champion' for anything doesn't really mean anything.
Each to their own.

For me, every culture brings something to the table. Not everything will impress me, but I will respect it especially when I learn a bit about it.

I think saying 'I know better now' is condesending to those people you are speaking about, they didn't fight with guns or B-52 bombers or battleships back in those days.. They were hacking the fuck outta each other with big rusty ass swords most of the time lol.
 
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Each to their own.

For me, every culture brings something to the table. Not everything will impress me, but I will respect it especially when I learn a bit about it.

I think saying 'I know better now' is condesending to those people you are speaking about, they didn't fight with guns or B-52 bombers or battleships back in those days.. They were hacking the fuck outta each other with big rusty ass swords most of the time lol.
For each their own indeed.
I still go to schools of other styles and practice with them every once in a while.
Even though I play something completely different. And there is always something I pick up and learn. I do keep an open mind for other styles so I will be able to keep evolving myself.
But because I do this I ran into something that was so impressed with I had to revise my opinion about a lot of martial arts I've seen and experienced before.

The people I speak of where a halfbreed of Indonesian indigenous people and European people.
They were not accepted by the Indonesian people because they had a European father.
And they were not accepted by the Europeans because they were brown.
They were hated by both sides and to defend themselves from the Indonesian who practiced either a form of Pencak Silat or Kun Tao.
Or the Europeans who practiced boxing and are physically bigger and stronger, they created their own.