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Yes Muay Thai. I know that this isn't the only way and there are more variates to the low kick. I was just saying almost nobody does it. And when they are fighting standing up. Being able to perform a perfect low kick on your opponent would be of great advantage.
I know BJJ is on whole other level, especially on the ground. And that is also something every MMA fighter should be able to do. And I like to see a match where they both are really good in BJJ so it will be a technical ground match.
I kind of agree with what you are saying, but I believe Muay Thai is best utilized with elbows and knees, close up and you got the grappling technique as well. In my early teens I did Muay Thai for a few months and to be honest that taught me the first thing I do is throw an elbow, not a punch. Faster, less strength needed and nicely landed blow to the nose makes the other guy tear up and they cant see shit. As far as kicking, I think you need a good amount of strength and really need to be a top notch athelete to really be dominant with Muay Thai kicks. From what I have seen though, I think Taekwondo is the best for kicks, but again, jump kicks and that kind of stuff is really stupid and you don't see it often.

And yeah BJJ is the most superior form of ground fighting without a doubt.

But to me, the most realistic form of martial art, would be Ninjutsu. It has everything as well as using makeshift weapons you would find in a street fight situation. Gun/Knife disarming techniques, probably one of the most underrated self defence martial arts, and realistic in the sense that the aim is to kill your attacker.
 
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Damn I wrote a reply and it was gone....


I wasn't advocating on the entire Muay Thai system but the MMA guys should capitalize on the low kick much more.
It will be a great addition to their already existing arsenal of weapons.

TeaKwonDo is nice for the movies you learn some high kicks but these are far inferior to the Muay Thai kicks.
Also TKD is about 80% kicking, but if your opponent is in close range you cannot kick, he has to be in far range for that.
Also you cannot use this system when you are in closed confinement, like an elevator, classroom, building, public transportation etc.

JuJitsu is out dated. It might come in handy when someone is attacking you with a katana sword but other then that also quite useless.
They have some good techniques and some good grabs but what if you cannot catch the punch your opponent throws at you? I doubt they can ever catch a punch and put it in a lock. It's just too fast.

All (M)MA systems have advantages and disadvantages, some have more advantage then disadvantage. And others have more advantage then disadvantage.

I didn't want to offend anyone, this is just the way I see it.
Sometimes I think it's better not to learn a complete system but to learn maybe 2 or 3 combinations. Practice them 6 zillion times. So it will be a natural reaction. You won't even have to think about what to do. Your muscles remember and they act and react before your brain knows what's going on.

Learning an entire system could have disadvantages as well.. because you have too much choice what to do and your practicing way too much stuff to print them in your 'muscle memory'.
 
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Shes a 23 year old former model whos asian. what did she really think she was being hired for.
HAPPY ENDINGS heres the question when he brought her in and it started looking like it was going sexual why did she not just leave no she did it more than once from what i heard. maybe she ...
 

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Damn I wrote a reply and it was gone....


I wasn't advocating on the entire Muay Thai system but the MMA guys should capitalize on the low kick much more.
It will be a great addition to their already existing arsenal of weapons.

TeaKwonDo is nice for the movies you learn some high kicks but these are far inferior to the Muay Thai kicks.
Also TKD is about 80% kicking, but if your opponent is in close range you cannot kick, he has to be in far range for that.
Also you cannot use this system when you are in closed confinement, like an elevator, classroom, building, public transportation etc.

JuJitsu is out dated. It might come in handy when someone is attacking you with a katana sword but other then that also quite useless.
They have some good techniques and some good grabs but what if you cannot catch the punch your opponent throws at you? I doubt they can ever catch a punch and put it in a lock. It's just too fast.

All (M)MA systems have advantages and disadvantages, some have more advantage then disadvantage. And others have more advantage then disadvantage.

I didn't want to offend anyone, this is just the way I see it.
Sometimes I think it's better not to learn a complete system but to learn maybe 2 or 3 combinations. Practice them 6 zillion times. So it will be a natural reaction. You won't even have to think about what to do. Your muscles remember and they act and react before your brain knows what's going on.

Learning an entire system could have disadvantages as well.. because you have too much choice what to do and your practicing way too much stuff to print them in your 'muscle memory'.
Knees are the better option for up close, low kicks are meant to either sweep, push back (push kick on the knee, thigh, stomach or groin) or wear down the opponents legs so it makes it harder for them to stand.

Jujutsu is outdated, thats why Helio Gracie developed Gracie Jiujutsu (Brazillian Jiujutsu). It followed the same basics but emphasized the ground.

Just one thing for you to undertsand though, Jujutsu = used by the Samurai (the ruling class, rich) in Feudal Japan and Ninjutsu = used by the Shinobi (villagers, farmers, poor). So saying Jujutsu is only good for when someone is attacking you with a sword is not the best statement to make. I think you don't understand the concept here. It teaches you to disarm a gun or knife, how is that outdated? So for example if someone came at you with a knife (very realistic here in australia because they don't allow us to have Guns) you would be able to defend yourself just by using your hands or any object that is next to you. I think you should learn about it a bit more because it does not seem you understand it Ninjutsu very well, no offence.
 
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im a black belt in the art of blockin out of my mind long ass posts that are convos between 2 people about martial arts in threads about steven seagal sexually harrassing bitches mayne.....
btw wwf wrestling>>>ninjitsu
 

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im a black belt in the art of blockin out of my mind long ass posts that are convos between 2 people about martial arts in threads about steven seagal sexually harrassing bitches mayne.....
btw wwf wrestling>>>ninjitsu
I'm a red belt in WWF

 
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Knees are the better option for up close, low kicks are meant to either sweep, push back (push kick on the knee, thigh, stomach or groin) or wear down the opponents legs so it makes it harder for them to stand.
Either you misinterpreted the low kick or I didn't explain myself very well.
What I ment with a low kick is just one particular kick.
I'll add a video to show you what I ment exactly
And for the close combat situations we can fire up a whole different discussion because I also have a thing or two about that on my mind.
I practice a system that is special developed for close combat and we practically never use knees.

This video is quitte long but the low kicks are performed perfectly by Ernesto Hoost here. Check out 0.43, 0.57, 1.52 or 2.10 sec for example. A low kick like that is devastating and down you go. When someone performs a kick like that on your upper thigh. No matter how big you are.
But he performs a lot more in this clip.


This is all I ment to say that the MMA guys would benefit a great deal if they would capitalize on this kick. Because I see them slacking in that. Also most MMA fighters I've seen don't have a proper defense against this kick.


Jujutsu is outdated, thats why Helio Gracie developed Gracie Jiujutsu (Brazillian Jiujutsu). It followed the same basics but emphasized the ground.
I know about the Gracie family and the start of BJJ, I think BJJ is a very affective system. Probably the best ground fighting system there is. But like every other system. It's not complete. If you would practice only BJJ for example, you would be prepared for some guy punching or kicking (or even pinching) you on the ground. Like for instance a Pencak Silat Harimau player would do. And they in their return are not prepared for someone who plays BJJ. There isn't one complete system out there.

Just one thing for you to undertsand though, Jujutsu = used by the Samurai (the ruling class, rich) in Feudal Japan and Ninjutsu = used by the Shinobi (villagers, farmers, poor). So saying Jujutsu is only good for when someone is attacking you with a sword is not the best statement to make. I think you don't understand the concept here. It teaches you to disarm a gun or knife, how is that outdated? So for example if someone came at you with a knife (very realistic here in australia because they don't allow us to have Guns) you would be able to defend yourself just by using your hands or any object that is next to you. I think you should learn about it a bit more because it does not seem you understand it Ninjutsu very well, no offence.
Oh but I understand the concept of JuJitsu/Ninjutsu very well, And I know about the history of Jujitsu or a lot of other martial arts for that matter. And I used to think a lot like you. But I know so much better now.
There isn't one 'established' or widely known system out there that impresses me anymore.
Let me tell you a thing or two about Jujitsu (from my point of view).

1. Jujitsu is focused on one attack from one opponent. (most people will not attack one punch at a time).
2. They practice their defense on a opponent who hits in a straight line (like a karate punch). But in all my life, I've never seen anyone fight like that. Practicing like this is just unrealistic.
3. Like all Japanese fighting styles, Jujitsu is static. I don't think that it started out that way, but it is now. They only practice "solid forms". And never go "outside the box".
4. They don't focus on kicking, punching or attacking so much but the focus is more on getting a arm bar, leg bar or what ever. Every fight is so quickly, you don't have any time for something like this during the fight. If however you need to control a person after you beat him up to wait for police to arrive or something. Then these techniques are the best to have.

But other then that, no I am sorry there are just too many disadvantages for jujitsu to be an effective MA system in this time.


As for the knife defenses. A lot of MA system practice knife defenses. I also know a lot of knife defenses and practice them on a almost daily basis for several years now.
You know what I do when someone comes up to me with a knife... I get the fuck out of there.
EXCEPT!! when the guy would hold a knife and stretched out his arm. This way you can tell the guy doesn't really want to harm you but he pulls out his knife because he is scared.
If someone pulls a knife and keeps it close to his own body, means this guy probably knows what he is doing and he is meaning to put that knife in me.
You can train against this all you want but that guy needs only one change and you could be dead. For what?

Knife fighting is even quicker then a regular fist fight. The best defense for this is. Get the fuck away from there. (at least that's how I see it but I think it's pointless to fight anyway, especially when someone pulls a knife).
 
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im a black belt in the art of blockin out of my mind long ass posts that are convos between 2 people about martial arts in threads about steven seagal sexually harrassing bitches mayne.....
btw wwf wrestling>>>ninjitsu

That bitch is a drug using lying whore. We've already established that.
And I am sorry for partially being responsible for hijacking this thread.. but the wheels are already rolling.. lol

And yeah man, there is no better system then wwf wrestling lol
 
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That bitch is a drug using lying whore. We've already established that.
And I am sorry for partially being responsible for hijacking this thread.. but the wheels are already rolling.. lol

And yeah man, there is no better system then wwf wrestling lol