Slavery Reparations

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

Again, you have no idea about slavery. ANY person claiming the holocaust slaves and cambodian killing fields were worse than 15 to 20 million slaves dying and another 15 to 20 million surviving is an idiot.

Stop posting.

Because you CAN'T prove it. You want to know why you can't prove it? Because HISTORY tells a different story.

But these are NOT worse than the slavery that the africans had to endure. How long did these people endure slavery? 20-70 years? How long did africans endure slavery? Over 100? As a result of holocaust slavery and cambodian killing fields how many slaves died? 4 - 8 million. As a result of african slavery how many slaves died? 15-20 MILLION.

How can you logically say these forms of slavery were worse?

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

HERESY said:

Again, you have no idea about slavery. ANY person claiming the holocaust slaves and cambodian killing fields were worse than 15 to 20 million slaves dying and another 15 to 20 million surviving is an idiot.

Stop posting.

Because you CAN'T prove it. You want to know why you can't prove it? Because HISTORY tells a different story.

But these are NOT worse than the slavery that the africans had to endure. How long did these people endure slavery? 20-70 years? How long did africans endure slavery? Over 100? As a result of holocaust slavery and cambodian killing fields how many slaves died? 4 - 8 million. As a result of african slavery how many slaves died? 15-20 MILLION.

How can you logically say these forms of slavery were worse?

I think you owe me 3 bills.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

swoop187 said:

You have no idea what the fuck your talking about only a fool would say African slaves were treated worse then Holocaust slaves AND only a fool would think that the Cambodian killing feilds was nothing compaired to American slavery.

I dont have to prove shit too you because i could give 2 fucks what you think AND on top of that you dont know anything at all about history.

$300.00??? yea right you said "name one slave period in time that was worse then black slavery and i will never come back to the boards"

I then said the "killing fields" were way worse and then i said the holocaust slaves were worse.

1. Nazi Germany 38 million deaths,
in World War Two, and the Holocaust,
2. Imperial Germany 34 million deaths,
by causing WW1, and the 1917 Flu, and the colonial depradations, in Africa.
3. Imperial China 28 million deaths
by the 1900s famines, and slavery,
4. Imperial Japan 27 million deaths,
by WW2, and the colonial oppressions
5. Imperial Russia 24 million deaths,
by helping cause WW1, and numerous famines, and the Iranian famine of 1917
6. Communist China 22 Million deaths
By famines, and democides

7. Communist USSR 21 million deaths,
By famines, and oppressions
8. Imperial Austria 17.5 million deaths,
by helping cause WW1
9. The demon Belgian king 15 million deaths,
By inflicting the Congo empire democides,
10. British Empire 12 million deaths
By numerous famines, and wars in the early 20thC

10 KMT 12 million deaths in WW2, and other oppressions

ALL had slavery do you want more?

THESE ARE REGIMES YOU DUMB ASS!!!!! STOP PLAGIARIZING AND FORMULATE AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT OF YOUR OWN!!!!

http://www.lonympics.co.uk/Worstregimesofthe20thcentury.htm

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

HERESY said:

Your a fucking moron......what do regimes have in common????????

SLAVERY..........ALL OF THESE REGIMES HAD SLAVERY UNDER THEIR BELTS.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

For everyone reading swoop said:

I asked him to show a worse form of slavery and he lists crimes commited by REGIMES. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

If you currently do or don't is not a matter for debate. You said when you were 18- 20 that you thought the same way I currently do. I am saying there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT YOU HAD THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS I CURRENTLY HAVE WHEN YOU WERE 18-20, BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULD HAVE OWNED A BUSINESS (at 18-20) WOULD BE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL (at 18-20), AND WOULD BE HELPFUL IN YOUR COMMUNITY (at 18-20.) Instead you were LOCKED UP between 18-20, and I am not doing anything to cause myself to be incarcerated. With that being said you did NOT have the same mentality as I currently have.

Critical Thinking. Please look into it.

Again you are listing regimes and none of them exceed the number od SLAVE DEATHS or number of people DISPLACED.

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

HERESY said:

For everyone reading swoop said:

I asked him to show a worse form of slavery and he lists crimes commited by REGIMES. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

If you currently do or don't is not a matter for debate. You said when you were 18- 20 that you thought the same way I currently do. I am saying there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT YOU HAD THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS I CURRENTLY HAVE WHEN YOU WERE 18-20, BECAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULD HAVE OWNED A BUSINESS (at 18-20) WOULD BE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL (at 18-20), AND WOULD BE HELPFUL IN YOUR COMMUNITY (at 18-20.) Instead you were LOCKED UP between 18-20, and I am not doing anything to cause myself to be incarcerated. With that being said you did NOT have the same mentality as I currently have.

Critical Thinking. Please look into it.

Again you are listing regimes and none of them exceed the number od SLAVE DEATHS or number of people DISPLACED.

Take your pick China, Cambodian, Roman, Carribian, South American slavery was all worse and not to mention jewish slaves durring Nazi Germany which you REFUSE to reconize.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

swoop187 said:

Again, you have been busted. You are passing off knowledge as if it were your own, when in reality, it deals with REGIMES. No one is saying these regimes did not have slavery under their belt. What I am saying is these regimes did not implement SLAVERY that resulted in 15 - 20 million deaths ALONE.

LMAO! Do you realize you are comparing apples to oranges? ALso, you REFUSE to recognize the fact that the so-called jews were COMPENSATED FOR THE CRIMES COMMITED BY NAZI GERMANY. Again, the numbers do NOT add up, and comparing crimes commited by regimes to slavery is laughable....which is why I am laughing. LMAO!

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

I think you fail to realize what these “regimes” did, the conquered foreign land and enslaved their people. Do you not understand that? Take your pick from the China to the Caribbean slaves.

Do you have any fucking idea howmany people died durring the holocaust?

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

HERESY said:

Whatever you wanna believe....... You dont know what your talking about and anyone that knows anything about history will tell you your wrong.

20 million slaves? ....what the fuck does that mean exactly? 20 million people died durring slavery as a result of slavery? and you know this how? does it mean 20 million blacks died durring the slavery period?

Read this shit and tell me American slaves had it worse

http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/toll.htm

http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/fields.html

In 4 years (1975-1979) 2 million people died of slavery in cambodia. Lets see here you say 20 million died in a span of 400 years in America.

Lets adjust these numbers that would be 200 million slave deaths over that span of time.

Simple basic math says the cambodian slaves had it 50,000,000 times worse then what the American slaves had it.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

Junior, you are NOT making any sense right now. Again, you are comparing the crimes commited by regimes to the slave trade. If I were to mention the euro american regime that was in power and benefited from slavery the numbers would SKY ROCKET because I would have to include the murders and displacement of MILLIONS of native americans. Again, comparing regimes to slavery is downright FOOLISH.

Let me show you how FOOLISH you are for even cutting and pasting that madness and passing it off as your own:

Many historians place the deaths caused by the holocaust at 6 to 12 million. In addition even if the deaths were 38 million these are caused by ACTS OF WAR and NOT 38 million caused by slavery. You are a dumb ass.

Again, this 34 million was caused by WAR, a FLU and so-called colonial depradations. How much of the 34 million is caused by slavery? You are a dumb ass.

Again, this does not take into account that wars were going on at the time, but it DOES attribute 28 million to FAMINE and slavery. Again, you are a dumb ass.

This says NOTHING about slavery. Why mention it? Can you say dumb ass?

This says NOTHING about slavery. Why mention it? Can you say dumb ass?

In closing, the majority of deaths you listed are attributed to DEMOCIDE and acts of GENOCIDE. The ONLY one that attributed ANYTHING to slavery was China, and the numbers are divided amongst famine, war AND slavery.

Thanks for playing junior.

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

Oh ok i see it dont count when regimes invade then enslave people?
WTF?

Junior?

Like i said 200,000,000 would be the adjusted numbers to Cambodian slavery or aka "the killing fields"

2 million alone died due to slavery in 4 years.

You owe me 300.00 bones.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

swoop187 said:

Whatever you wanna believe....... You dont know what your talking about and anyone that knows anything about history will tell you your wrong.

20 million slaves? ....what the fuck does that mean exactly? 20 million people died durring slavery as a result of slavery? and you know this how? does it mean 20 million blacks died durring the slavery period?

Read this shit and tell me American slaves had it worse

http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/toll.htm

http://www.aiipowmia.com/sea/fields.html

In 4 years (1975-1979) 2 million people died of slavery in cambodia. Lets see here you say 20 million died in a span of 400 years in America.

Lets adjust these numbers that would be 200 million slave deaths over that span of time.

Simple basic math says the cambodian slaves had it 50,000,000 times worse then what the American slaves had it.

You have completely lost it buddy.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

swoop187 said:

THEY ARE ACTS OF DEMOCIDE YOU DUMB ASS!!!! THE PERSON WHO MADE THE SITE IS ATTRIBUTING ALL THOSE DEATHS TO DEMOCIDE!!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS LOOK IT UP IN A DICTIONARY!!! HOW CAN ANYONE BE SO DUMB?!?!?!?!

swoop187 · Jul 13, 2006

HERESY said:

Lost it????

2 million people died as a result of slavery in 4 years.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

swoop187 said:

Again, your logic is flawed. At present, the cambodian population is only 12-15 million, so in reality the cambodians would have been WIPED OUT in LESS than ten years. You have african tribes that NO LONGER EXIST. THEY ARE LOST!!!! THE CAMBODIANS STILL EXIST YOU RETARDED WORM!!! In addition, you would also have to show that the cambodians would even make it to 200 million, and if they haven't made it to 200 million now, how the FUCK would your number be applicable? LMAO!!!

TWO MILLION ALONE DIED IN TWO YEARS. HOW DOES THAT EXCEED 20 MILLION AND THE LOSS OF ENTIRE TRIBES?

BTW, I WOULD GIVE YOU $300.00 IF YOU HAD PROVEN YOUR CASE BUT YOU HAVE NOT. YOU HAVE PASSED INFO OFF AS YOUR OWN AND YOU DID NOT READ THE INFO YOU PRESENTED. IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD REALIZE THE DEATHS WERE ATTRIBUTED TO DEMOCIDE. YOUR POSTS ARE PROOF THAT THE AVERAGE SICCNESS MEMBER DOES NOT READ.

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

You are comparing this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

To this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

LMAO!

HERESY · Jul 13, 2006

http://www.geocities.com/dtmcbride/hist/disasters-war.html

Some of the incidents you mentioned may be found on this list. Moreover, the site lists the death toll of african slaves as 15 million - 20 million, and it does NOT cite any other form of slavery as having a higher death toll. The site is MORE credible than your cut and paste job. Good day, junior.

William206 · Jul 13, 2006

You guys both have good points.. Hersesy I agree with. but Im to lazy to state why.

What you guys are talking about is a good subject but.. we are talking about If black americans Should get Money for the wrong that our people had to deal with..

Native americans Had it the worst atlest there are still black people around.. They are endanderd and there prob wont be any full blooded natvies around in 100 years.. thats a shitty end.. They never Recoverd from what europe Did to them. and we complain?

swoop187 · Jul 14, 2006

HERESY said:

15-20 in 400 years? opposed to 2 million cambodian slaves in 4 years? I said who had it worse not howmany people died. Clearly you would see the Cambodians had it worse.

You should watch the move called the "killing fields"

HERESY · Jul 14, 2006

swoop187 said:

This guy...listen, you have already been proven incorrect several times. Why do you insist on typing madness? You are comparing an act of DEMOCIDE to SLAVERY. These are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT circumstances. What you are failing to grasp is that the Cambodians are STILL ALIVE. The Cambodians have GROWN in population from the time the incident happened. What you are also failing to realize that MANY afrikan tribes NO LONGER EXIST. They will NEVER exist again, their numbers are 0. Again. Cambodians = 13 million people right now. Numerous Afrikan tribes = 0. If 2 million Cambodians were dead in 4 years, it would take apprx 10 years to kill them off IF THEY STOPPED GIVING BIRTH because the current population at that time was 6.5 - 8 million. The Cambodians would be EXTINCT. But what do you do? You come up with some RETARDED form of math and try to blow the numbers through the roof!!!! LMAO!

Again, Cambodians = 13 million. Many Afrikan tribes = 0. Which is worse, still existing or no longer existing? Which is worse, still having a culture or no longer having a culture? Which is worse, still having a language and economy or no longer having a language or economy? Which is worse, still having someone to carry on your legacy and history or no one to carry on your legacy or history?

Also, the numbers were NOT 2 million SLAVES. Please get your facts STRAIGHT. A significant amount of that 2 million died BEFORE they were even forced into labor.

Also, you said, afrikans didn't have it worse, BUT WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR WORSE????????? WHAT ARE YOU BASING IT ON?!?!?!?!

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