Roy Jones Jr VS Ruiz...MARCH 1st!!!

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Mclean I can say that with ease!! Ridduck beat Holyfield after his prime!! Holyfield wasnt even a tru heavyweight and knocked mufuckaz out!! Riddick aint even a champion mane!! Get that shit outta here, and Tyson wooped him twice in his prime!! GOT EM!!!
thats where yo are wrong when bowe and holy fought they were both in their prime. when tyson and bowe fought bowe was past him prime.
 
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THAT HOLYFIELD-TYSON FIGHT WAS OFF THE HOOK!!! I WAS WIT LIKE 10 OF MY BOYS AND THEY WAS ALL SAYIN TYSON WAS GONNA KILL HIM, I WAS TELLIN EM ALL NIGHT HOLYFIELD WAS GONNA SMASH!!! THEY WAS ALL STUNNED AND SHIT CUZ HOLY PUT IT ON THAT PUNK!!!
 
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Come on dogg, u would be the only one period to say ridduck Bowe was greater than Holyfield!! Bowe was a pussy first off! he gave up a belt because he didnt want to see Lennox, and Holyfield in his prime wooped ass period!! Bi had a good couple years, but he wasnt shit and will never be in the same group as Holyfield!! Try again!! GOT EM!!!
 
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Come on dogg, u would be the only one period to say ridduck Bowe was greater than Holyfield!! Bowe was a pussy first off! he gave up a belt because he didnt want to see Lennox, and Holyfield in his prime wooped ass period!! Bi had a good couple years, but he wasnt shit and will never be in the same group as Holyfield!! Try again!! GOT EM!!!
OK, but i still think that bowe in his prime was better than holyfield and thats why he beat him 2 outta 3. now i am not taking anything away from holyfield and he too should be considered one of the greats because he never ducked any1, never complained , wasnt a true heavy and still won, and because of his longevity.
 
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BOWE WAS HUGE AND HOLYFIELD STILL TAPPED THAT ASS!!! HOLYFIELD IS A FUCKIN WARRIOR!! HIS HEART CANT BE MATCHED AND FO SHO CANT BE MATCHED BY ALL THE PUSSY'S THAT FIGHT TODAY!!!
 
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Naw homie Bowe aint close to Holyfield in his prime!! U might think so, but not most of us!! Holyfield did things his size that probably no one else will ever do, unless Roy gets off when he fights these heavyweights which I doubt!! But bottom line Bowe to me aint in Holyfields class!! GOT EM!!!
 
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KINGCZAR said:
Naw homie Bowe aint close to Holyfield in his prime!! U might think so, but not most of us!! Holyfield did things his size that probably no one else will ever do, unless Roy gets off when he fights these heavyweights which I doubt!! But bottom line Bowe to me aint in Holyfields class!! GOT EM!!!
well maybe when BigE gets back he can clarify things. i will go by whatever he sais simply because he is the most knowledgable about boxing here period
 
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How do u know that!! How do u know he has more knowledge than me or anybody else u dont know on this board!! I know alot, but what i dont know my uncles know as well!! And we talk very often and trust me Bowe cant fuck wit Holyfield period!!! If this so-called expert bige says other wise, then maybe he dont know as much as u think!! GOT EM!!!
 
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KINGCZAR said:
How do u know that!! How do u know he has more knowledge than me or anybody else u dont know on this board!! GOT EM!!!
because boxing is part of his work, he knows alote of the fighters and interviews alote of them also.

even me i consider myself very knowledgeable because i watch boxing all the time a got every PPV and HBO, Showtime boxing there is. the only sport i consider myself more knowledgeable in is baseball
 
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BOSS925 said:
I WOULD TRUST MY OWN KNOWLEDGE OVER ANYONE ELSE'S
ya i know but if i say 1 thing and king says the opposite and it is eveident neither of us will budge than it is reasonable (at least on my part) to bring in a third party that is also very knowledgeable to settle the dispute
 
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But it aint no dispute! Its a debate and what the 3rd person gonna do? he aint gonna change my mind so he aint no factor! 2ndly he wont be the third person, cause Boss has already agreed with me! So that makes it 2 to 1! So now the so-called dispute is over...I wanna see u type Holyfield is better!! GOT EM!!!
 
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I am back to add my two cents. First thing, I would consider myself very knowledgable about Boxing, I cover it for many websites have gone back and forth with Jim Lampley,Larry Merchant,Max Kellerman etc. That doesnt make me the know all of Boxing, but I do know a helluva a lot. And I can go to any Boxing fight in the country and get a free seat. As for the Holyfield/Bowe debate, I agree with both sides. I would easily say that Holyfield will go down in History as a much better Heavyweight than Big Daddy. That being said, They did fight 3 times and had 3 wars. You could say that Riddick had his number. I would say that Bowe would win at least 65% of the time if they fought, so yes that might make him better than Holyfield one on one, but put their careers side to side and Holyfield's dwarfs Bowes. Sometimes a fighter just has another guys #, look at Mosley/Forrest. Thats not to say that Mosley might not comeback and have a better career though. You cant judge everything on 1 series of fights, but also if a guy beats another 2 outta 3 times chances are he is better than him.
To add even more to back up my point, look at Andrew Golota. Take away the low blows and he was destroying Bowe in the first fight, and winning the second also. So I would say that he was a better fighter than Bowe against each other, but as a career goes Bowes was much better and he will always go down in history as being a higher regarded fighter.
 
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Thats all Im sayin bige!! Holyfield is a gretaer fighter and will go down as a greater fighter! I figured if u really knew your shit, u would have said what u just said, so good shit!! There u go mclean!! GOT EM!!!
 
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KINGCZAR said:
Thats all Im sayin bige!! Holyfield is a gretaer fighter and will go down as a greater fighter! I figured if u really knew your shit, u would have said what u just said, so good shit!! There u go mclean!! GOT EM!!!
ya we were both right and both wrong wrong at the same time. i'll take a draw
 
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Nope.. he said Holyfield is a greater fighter, so u were wrong mane!! He said Bowe had Holyfields number, but that Holyfield was a greater heavyweight and his resime will tell that!! But u can take the moral victory if u like!! GOT EM!!
 
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BigE916WRM said:
As for the Holyfield/Bowe debate, I agree with both sides.

I would easily say that Holyfield will go down in History as a much better Heavyweight than Big Daddy.

That being said, They did fight 3 times and had 3 wars.

I would say that Bowe would win at least 65% of the time if they fought, so yes that might make him better than Holyfield one on one,

but put their careers side to side and Holyfield's dwarfs Bowes.
there are 5 points he made