Religion Is The Source Of Evil?!

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HERESY

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Really.

Tens of millions of German Christians adored Hitler. Hitler and the Nazis promoted Christian nationalism, religious anti-semitism and a return to traditional values which the Christians appreciated.
If they were christians they would not have supported him. Hitler and the Nazis promoted paganism/witchcraft and occult beliefs. He also promoted racism (which was also rooted in Blavatsky’s occult teachings), and used many other teachings to achieve his point. You're basically implying, "Hitler used christianity so christianity is bad", yet you are NOT considering the actual roots and beliefs of Hitler which ARE relevant.

Even if he was talking shit, he kissed Christianities arse enough to garner their support (in the least, prevent them from fighting against him).
And at the same time talking behind their back:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease.
It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ."
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State.
After all, even if Hitler were not Christian, an appeal to a divine mandate (such that Hitler made constantly) would without doubt win more thiests than athiests to the cause.
No argument here.

As I quoted before "by defending myself against the jew, I am fighting for the work of the lord". Many christians lapped up that argument like a thirsty kitten.
No, I would not say many christians lapped it up. I would say many so-called christians who were uneducated and had no concept of HIS lord did.

What argument would that be? I asked whether Hitler was a Christian and then provided evidence for both potential answers. I was aluding to the fact that he most likely was not a Christian but that he used them as pawns to do his bidding. After all, the majority of them are very gullible, would you not agree?
Your entire argument is Hitler, who might have been a "christian", used
"christianiaty" to smash jews. The man claimed to be catholic, which is different from being christian, but even though he claimed to be such, his actions were NOT on par with those who adhere to traditional catholicism. Catholicism is NOT christianity and this is part of the reason why your argument doesn't make much sense any longer.

They are relevant, that's the whole point.
Yet you previously stated:

Whether he was a true Christian or not is irrelevant.
If his religious affiliation/beliefs are relevant, how can you say, "Whether he was a true Christian or not is irrelevant"? :dead:

Do you have to be Christian to hold any religious affiliations and/or beliefs? No. His chummy relationship with Pope Pius II was most certainly a religious affiliation and as long as Hitler appeared to spread the word of God, Pius was happy to let him rule his own house.
Can you list the two main religions in Germany at the time of Hitlers madness? After you do, I want you to explain why you are linking catholicism with christianity.

Maybe they were, maybe they were not. Again, it doesn't matter whether they are 'real' christians or not.
Indeed it does matter. You had two major religions in Germany at the time, and while both had an economic and political influence, I think you need to clarify which one supported Hitler.

Christianity is a powerful weapon and those who yield it have a significant advantage over those who do not.
The same can be said for ANY belief system or ideaology past, present or future.

In this case, Hitler and the Nazis used religious arguments to garner christian support, providing them with an excuse to perform such atrocities, particularly against the Jews.
Christian or catholic support? And what is your take on the occult support he garnered before and after he rose to power?

As such christianity must share some of the blame for their actions.
No, the people who claim to be christians need to share some of the blame for their actions (if "christians" were his supporters.) Do you see me blaming christianity for Afrikan slavery? No. I blame people who misused christianity and the bible for their own purpose and gain. Christianity did not say "go and slaughter millions of so-called jews", but because the people may have felt threatened by the so-called jews, they fell for it hook line and sinker. Again, christianity and catholicism are two distinct belief systems, and although they have some parallels, nevertheless, they are different.
 

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GTS said:
Athiest just don't understand, they think Christians persecute them for their beliefs, but look how yall talk about Christians.
On this board you'll CONSTANTLY see athiest persecuting christians, yet you won't see many christians returning the favor. You'll CONSTANTLY see athiest talking about the christian God, the religion and the bible, yet these people RARELY say anything about paganism, islam, hinduism and the gazillion of other religions on the face of the globe. The cold part about it is, when on the rare christian DOES say something which may be offensive, the athiests on this board will QUICKLY point out that the person is behaving in a non-christian way. It's like they (the athiest) are entitled to a free pass or something.....
 
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Well its not a free pass..

I personally think its more comical that we have Christians in this "gangster rap sanctuary" than anything else....

And the reason that Christians get it more than other religions (from me) is cause I know more about christianity than I do about the other..

all that beside

I still think collectively your all a bunch of idiots for living your life for someone/something else.

peace...and God, Budda, Mohammad, Yesha, Juko, Dopa, Loko be with you..

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HERESY said:
On this board you'll CONSTANTLY see athiest persecuting christians, yet you won't see many christians returning the favor. You'll CONSTANTLY see athiest talking about the christian God, the religion and the bible, yet these people RARELY say anything about paganism, islam, hinduism and the gazillion of other religions on the face of the globe. The cold part about it is, when the on the rare christian DOES say something which may be offensive, the athiests on this board will QUICKLY point out that the person is behaving in a non-christian way. It's like they (the athiest) are entitled to a free pass or something.....
100% agree. I mean to talk down on people trying to live good lives and raise their family in good environment with good morals as oppossed to the way some of us grew up is funny. There are bad apples in every race, religon, etc. but to judge a whole religon by some wacko isn't logical. I mean everyone has faith, it just varies on what their faith is. Why do some think their better because of their beliefs?
 
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I personally think its more comical that we have Christians in this "gangster rap sanctuary" than anything else....
Why, there's more rap than just gangster rap you know.

And the reason that Christians get it more than other religions (from me) is cause I know more about christianity than I do about the other..
Knowing Christianity is the same as Knowing Jesus, and you already know what happens when you deny Jesus, as you have already admitted.

I still think collectively your all a bunch of idiots for living your life for someone/something else.
Well compared to people who have no morals, and don't truly follow the Way of Jesus. I rather live this way, then think freely and in the end when I get judged, I get thrown away.
 
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HERESY said:
On this board you'll CONSTANTLY see athiest persecuting christians
LOL@persecuting christians!

There is only a small handful of atheists on this board.

yet you won't see many christians returning the favor.
LOL. Ok comrade, if you'd like I can waste an hour of my time pulling up various atheists insults from numerous members. It goes both ways comrade.


You'll CONSTANTLY see athiest talking about the christian God, the religion and the bible, yet these people RARELY say anything about paganism, islam, hinduism and the gazillion of other religions on the face of the globe.
The reason is because most of the members are from the United states where Christianity is the dominating religion. If the siccness.net was founded in India, perhaps there would be mostly Hindu threads. People tend to speak more about things they know. You wont see me making a thread regarding Dinka mythology because 2-0-Sixx is ignorant on that subject.

The cold part about it is, when on the rare christian DOES say something which may be offensive, the athiests on this board will QUICKLY point out that the person is behaving in a non-christian way.
What Would Jesus Do?
 
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Hemp said:
To him Christianity has already been exposed , and his religion is the way. And he has proof of it.
So has Islam in the Christian and Jewish Eyes, and all the other way around. But how can Islam Expose Christianity or TRUE JUDAISM if most of what's in the Koran, is in the Bible and Torah? Christianity, and Judaism came WAY before Islam. Also to add to this, Stories were passed down Generation to Generation until Moses Wrote the First Books. Those stories were God Inspired. Also, if you look at the conflict in the Middle East, Jews against Muslims, It's the Religions of Issac, and the Religion of Ismael. Not Abraham's.
 

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LOL@persecuting christians!

There is only a small handful of atheists on this board.
It doesn't matter if there is 2 or 2 million. The point is atheists on this board persecute christians, when it happens it usually happens like a mob attack or something.

LOL. Ok comrade, if you'd like I can waste an hour of my time pulling up various atheists insults from numerous members. It goes both ways comrade.
I never said they don't resort to insulting atheist, but if you want to waste your time by showing the majority of these insults are often in response to atheists insulting them first feel free to do so. Also, if you know it goes both ways why continue to do it?

The reason is because most of the members are from the United states where Christianity is the dominating religion. If the siccness.net was founded in India, perhaps there would be mostly Hindu threads. People tend to speak more about things they know. You wont see me making a thread regarding Dinka mythology because 2-0-Sixx is ignorant on that subject.
Brother, the fact is, most people (so called christians included) are ignorant on the subject of christianity. However, in this section of the board, we tend to discuss just about everything under the sun--christianity and the bible is never the central theme (here in the GOM). Now, most being from the u.s. does play a slight role in all of this (because it would be an agent of socialization), but what about those outside of the us or those who come from other places?

What Would Jesus Do?
That depends on who you ask. Is the question rhetorical or do you want me to answer it?
 
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Why, there's more rap than just gangster rap you know.
True but this aint the site for it now ...is it? you know.

Knowing Christianity is the same as Knowing Jesus, and you already know what happens when you deny Jesus, as you have already admitted.
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Well compared to people who have no morals, and don't truly follow the Way of Jesus. I rather live this way, then think freely and in the end when I get judged, I get thrown away.

YOU THINK i NEED TO BE A CHRISTIAN TO HAVE MORALS?

YOU ARE FUCKING BRAINWASHED KID.

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JMACK Look at the Society today, either non-believing, or self proclaimed and unproven Christians. I'm not saying you have to be a Christian to have morals, but since you know Christianity well as you have claimed, a True man of his Religions holds his morals, laws, and standards high.
 
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JLMACN said:
True but this aint the site for it now ...is it? you know.



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YOU THINK i NEED TO BE A CHRISTIAN TO HAVE MORALS?

YOU ARE FUCKING BRAINWASHED KID.

5000
You should be judged on your morals, actions, behaviors and not religion. We are in no position to judge the next man upon their beliefs.
 
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GTS, for a man that I seldom see post here, Much Praise to you. But honestly man, you can't associate the religion with the Individual, cause on the Siccness, I may talk shit here and there, then be all nice. Then you'll think to yourself he's a walking contradiction or going to hell, but if you met me in person, it's a whole different thing. Posting on the Siccness, is like being Drunk, you say what you want to say, when you're sober, but it comes out because you don't have self control.
 
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GTS, for a man that I seldom see post here, Much Praise to you. But honestly man, you can associate the religion with the Individual, cause on the Siccness, I may talk shit here and there, then be all nice. Then you'll think to yourself he's a walking contradiction or going to hell, but if you met me in person, it's a whole different thing. Posting on the Siccness, is like being Drunk, you say what you want to say, when you're sober, but it comes out because you don't have self control.
It's all good, I've met so many different types of people and LEARNED to respect other people that I never used to, call it gettin older I guess. But I just get annoyed at ANY type of person that judges. Because we all are sinners. Some people just don't have people skills in order to convey their thoughts.