real id act 2008?

[thatguy]

But you'd still be a violent criminal, & thats what you originally posted about.




without a doubt!
I agree with that... I'm just sayin that in the justice system, they tend to 'lump' all of these types of crimes as a whole, & if they went off with this whole chip thing, one would be tied to another, tho there was no significance





We're cool Vince... I stay off the witness stand as well!
Lets all stay off that muh fucker, & let these detectives earn their plate... let THEM detect. Fuck an informant.

i dunno how it is where you live, but someone is threatening your family in your house, and you kill that person, your not a criminal.

also i like that you mention criminals being lumped together, i dont think an 18 year old guy that fucks a 17 year old girl, with her permission, that gets caught, should be condemned to the same punishment (a chip) as a guy that fucks babys, or toddlers, although theyll both be labeled sex offenders

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

I read that you would have to have the ID to even get into a fucking grocery store. But who knows. I haven't seen shit about it on the news yet.

NO.

You don't need it to go into a store.

and You don't have go get the REAL ID.. you can have a regular license.. to dirve...

You only need one to:

Board a COMMERCIAL plane.. which means rich people with private jets.. don't need one.. what a surprise.. LOL

But the solution to that.. is BOY COTT the airlines.. let them go bankrupt.. I don't care. My freedom is more important than some stupid plane ride...

Next: You need one to enter a government building: BIG LOSS! lol I consider that a BLESSING... and I have no need to go into a gov building. But people who work in gov buildings will be fucked.

Next you can't open an account with a MAJOR bank... and these are mostly NWO.. Illuminati founded banks.. like Bank of America ... Chase.. anything connected.. to Rockefeller family etc.

But an easy solution to this.. is just open an account with a small.. bank.


So there plan is very easy to defeat.

The best way to crush this tyranny is to do what MLK jr. did.

When they wanted his people in chains.. and slaves.. he stood up.. with many others and SAID NO! .. and when they didn't want to let them sit on the bus... they said NO! .. and now they have rights and freedom...

No one has the right to invade your privacy or freedom....

Stand up for your rights.. and just say NO.. boy bott.... this shit.

And don't think it's not so bad.. this needs to be crushed now.. and made Illegal... this is just the start. So stop this now, unless you want to be a slave.

This is where we will see who actually values freedom.

Also Ron Paul opposes the REAL ID.. and he will repeal this law. .so vote for him as President.

Also Montana , N.H. and Virginia, have drafted laws to block the REAL ID act. NH has even.. signed their Declaration of Independence from the REAL ID act.
So if you want to not get one you can always move to one of these states.

But you all need to write you Senators and congress people and let them know how you feel. Also call in.

I mean when everyone call and wrote in about Amnesty .. and how they didn't want it to pass.. it DIDN"T PASS.

so don't complain about how you think it sucks.. get off your ass.. and stand up for your rights.

This is YOUR country... and we're talking about YOUR rights....

Don't let old hags like David Rockefeller.. tell you what you're going to do.. or what you're future is.

I will not be talking a National ID card..

and neither should any of you.

and Vote RON PAUL!

 

[thatguy]

so what if i already have an account with a major bank, will that be terminated if i dont get the new id?

 

[SRD420]

yea, well the girl shouldnt be able to change her choice during and after the fact based on the fact she was drunk, point blank, she knows what happens when people get drunk, she chose to go do that, she then says yes, but says no when shes sober, thats bullshit. and i dont do anything im speaking of, i dont even party, and i dont think that every rape is this way, or every rape happens the other way, it just seems your condemning a really broad category of people to a label, and chip, that can greatly ruin there lives and life opportunities. just be more open minded.

and as far as a chip on a killer next door to you, point blank, if he wants to kill you, he still will, theyll just be able to see he was at your house when the murder happened, it doesnt protect anything really that well, it can go either way.

and as far as thinking like i do, lol, im making sure both sides are expressed, and staying open minded to both sides rather than putting a label and chip in or on a very broad group of people, while some of them dont deserve neither.

Girls are lying fuckin' bitches yo... fuckin' duh. If you know what they are about, why take the fuckin' risk? Be the "man" that you are and stay the fuck away from the twisted bitches. Its that simple, problem solved.

As for the chip in a killer... they can follow his ass everywhere they need to if they think he's gonna kill and watch him more closely. They watch my dad's house for drug trafficing and he don't even deal anymore... doesn't got a chip or nothin'... if they can waste their time doin' that... they can use their time watching a murderer. I'd feel safer w/ someone chipped than not chipped.

And no, I'm not labeling a broad group of people... I'm labeling repeat sex offenders. Get it straight and yes... repeat sex offenders do deserve to have every move they make monitored. Why the fuck not? What harm is it gonna do? None. What good is it gonna do? A lot, especially if it comes down to putting his ass away for good.

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Hmm I don't know.. It says you can't OPEN a new account....

I doesn't say you can't continue to have an account with a major bank.

Not all major banks.. mostly the ones that Rockefeller.. controls...

he's the one behind.. the REAL ID act... and all that....

Nick Rockefeller.. admitted all this.. to Aaron Russo the movie.. director...
a couple years back. This info was never supposed to come out...

Aaron Russo made a movie called America From Freedom to Fascism. And it really explains this all well. and how to defeat it.

Aaron Russo.. was offered a position on the Council on Foriegn Relations...
But he said.. Russo said.. he didn't wanna enslave people.. and that he was going to fight.. to let people know.. and keep people free. He died this year.. sadly.. but he got to make his film before he passed.. Aaron Russo RIP.. a true Patriot

 

[SRD420]

i dunno how it is where you live, but someone is threatening your family in your house, and you kill that person, your not a criminal.

also i like that you mention criminals being lumped together, i dont think an 18 year old guy that fucks a 17 year old girl, with her permission, that gets caught, should be condemned to the same punishment (a chip) as a guy that fucks babys, or toddlers, although theyll both be labeled sex offenders

I do, that 18 year old took a risk and did something dumb... ya live and ya learn and if that means getting chipped, well then I guess thats what it means. Consented sex or not... if you're gonna fuck w/ some random 17 year old girl and not think "What could happen if I do this?" You're fuckin' stupid and that's your own fault. I'd group you right along w/ the rest of the sick bastards just for being so ignorant and not watching out for yourself. It all comes down to choice... you can make the right choice and be fine or you can make the wrong one and pay for the crime.

 

[Stalka All Day]

your just bias, almost every opinion ive seen you put on this site is bias in one way or another, and im a little ignorant kid just cause i dont agree anyone needs to be monitored like that,due to the label "sex offender" being too open ended, for that to be fair. lol

and about the 15 year old daughter thing, maybe the 15 year old girl shouldnt be going and drinking with guys, because girls + liqour = getting naked and giving out the pussy. guy drunk seeing naked girl drunk = him most likely fucking her. then the girl wakes up in the morning and claims rape. thats bullshit, then that guy gets charged just cause she was drunk, like he wasnt or something. then he should get monitored through a chip for the rest of his life, lol, you run with that

you are in idiot...so cause a guy is drunk that gives him the right to stick his dick in whatever girl he sees...thats bullshit, and sorry honey but shit doesnt usually go down like that...yes, there is the "slut" who fucks whomever and blames it on being "drunk" but usually those are the girls who have been molested and/or raped at one point in time...and yes sex offenders should be monitered

 

[thatguy]

Girls are lying fuckin' bitches yo... fuckin' duh. If you know what they are about, why take the fuckin' risk? Be the "man" that you are and stay the fuck away from the twisted bitches. Its that simple, problem solved.

As for the chip in a killer... they can follow his ass everywhere they need to if they think he's gonna kill and watch him more closely. They watch my dad's house for drug trafficing and he don't even deal anymore... doesn't got a chip or nothin'... if they can waste their time doin' that... they can use their time watching a murderer. I'd feel safer w/ someone chipped than not chipped.

And no, I'm not labeling a broad group of people... I'm labeling repeat sex offenders. Get it straight and yes... repeat sex offenders do deserve to have every move they make monitored. Why the fuck not? What harm is it gonna do? None. What good is it gonna do? A lot, especially if it comes down to putting his ass away for good.

now your making more sense, and being less broad. as far as staying away from lying women, lol, that speech isnt for me, cause like i said, none of my argument applies to me, what ive done, or what i do. id almost agree with you on the repeat sex offenders, but that will lead into other things, when you give the gov the power to put chips in anyone, theyll use those statistics to con people into letting them put chips in other people and it never ends. they play off of your fear. i do see your points, but im also looking at the bigger picture, and fuck it, i could just be over paranoid about this, who knows

 

[Gemini]

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

I do, that 18 year old took a risk and did something dumb... ya live and ya learn and if that means getting chipped, well then I guess thats what it means.

Yeah the problem.. is they want to chip everyone.

They want to chip people with clean records.. they want to chip regular people.

What do you think of that?

Plus don't people in maximum security prisons.. have ankle bracelets that let's them be tracks with a computer?

Now why would they want.. to put an RFID chip.. in people's ID cards?
Are we all criminals now?

If people are dumb enough to take this without questions.. then they Deserve to be slaves.. But I am glad to see many people are not falling for it.

 

[thatguy]

you are in idiot...so cause a guy is drunk that gives him the right to stick his dick in whatever girl he sees...thats bullshit, and sorry honey but shit doesnt usually go down like that...yes, there is the "slut" who fucks whomever and blames it on being "drunk" but usually those are the girls who have been molested and/or raped at one point in time...and yes sex offenders should be monitered

no, but if both are drunk, and both agree to fuck, they shouldnt let the girl change her mind and say "i just fucked him cause i was drunk, thats rape even though i said yes at the time" when the guy in the same situation cant say "i just fucked her cause i was drunk, she took advantage". its a double standard. and the girl is dumb for putting herself in a bad situation, as is the guy for fucking a drunk girl that can easily call rape. but either way, if the guy gets caught up in this, he shouldnt be put in the same catagory as the guy that goes around molesting babys and young children

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

http://norealid.com/

NO REAL ID!

 

[SRD420]

Yeah the problem.. is they want to chip everyone.

They want to chip people with clean records.. they want to chip regular people.

What do you think of that?

I think what you think... might as well be a slave. If that happens, I'll move overseas, fuck it.

 

[FDS]

i think there trying to use the iran incedent as an excuse. im gettin the fuck outta here!

 

[thatguy]

I think what you think... might as well be a slave. If that happens, I'll move overseas, fuck it.

but a guy that is just dumb and fucks a girl underage with her consent, he can be a slave right?

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

I think what you think... might as well be a slave. If that happens, I'll move overseas, fuck it.

That's what I'm saying!

But you DON"T have to get one.

Only to enter gov Buildings...

Board commercial planes

Or open a bank account with a major bank like Bank of America...

Not ALL banks.. will require REAL ID's....

they will be smart.. and know there will be a market.. for people who don't want to get one.

You can still get a regular ID card...

In fact people who are here legally.. can't get a REAL ID.. they have to get the old kind...

now why would the citizens be more oppressed than the people who are not here legally?

Well I'm just gonna get the regular card.. not the RFID one.

Also it's good to see some states fighting this....
It would be a shame.. if they were dumb enough to take this shit

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Repeal the REAL ID act!

http://norealid.com/action.html

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

In addition to making others aware of the dangers of a national ID, you can write your representatives in Washington, DC. DownsizeDC.org has made it easy to contact all your representatives at once. Simply add your fill out your information, personalize the prewritten letter, then send it to your representatives. It only takes a few minutes.
DownsizeDC's Repeal the REAL ID Act Campaign

If you are a Tennessee resident, you can help at home, too. State representative Frank Niceley has offered to sponser a bill to ban state funding of the Real ID in Tennessee if he can gather enough support. Please contact Rep. Niceley indicating that you would support this legislation:
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Repeal the REAL ID Act!

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REAL ID act Pushed back till 2013! by DHS!

May even now be delayed still 2018! hopefully they delay until I die! lol

Almost Three Years After REAL ID's Passage, DHS Still Hasn't Released Final Regulations. Almost three years after the passage of the controversial REAL ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security still has not released final regulations. In November, the Department of Homeland Security announced major changes to the planned REAL ID national identification system (pdf). The original deadline for implementation was 2008, but has been pushed back to 2013. Now, DHS may delay implementation until 2018 and significantly reduce the requirements set out in draft regulations released in March. EPIC and others have repeatedly (pdf) detailed security and privacy problems (pdf) with the system that creates a national ID database and imposes federal responsibilities upon state agencies that have neither the trained employees nor the resources to fulfill these responsibilities. The final regulations, originally to be released in September, have yet to be published. For more information, see EPIC's Spotlight on Surveillance for March. (January 8, 2008)

 

[thatguy]

ay, like i asked earlier, if im already with a major bank what will happen if i dont get the new card, do you know?

 

[SRD420]

but a guy that is just dumb and fucks a girl underage with her consent, he can be a slave right?

Yep... he did the crime and now he can do the time. Like I said... ya live and ya learn and if that means being chipped, well then, I guess thats what it means.