R.I.P ARAFAT

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Jun 17, 2004
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Mcleanhatch said:
the Israeli PM made a deal with clinton at camp david in which they would give arafat what amounted to 99% of what he was asking for. and guess what, Arafat declined, i guess 99% wasnt enough for him he wanted 100%.
Because for so many years it was the Israelis who got 100% of what they wanted regardless of what the Palestinians thought.

Arafat was just trying to deal with the Israelis in the same manner that they had dealt with the Palestinians for so long.
WestRumble said:
israelis only negotiated with arafat cuz he was there only leader
My point exactly, he was the Palestinian's key for being heard.


My conservative, very-christian, republican, bush-supporting father agrees with me on that our support of Israel is very wrong. The zionist nation which treats its former inhabitants like dogs.
 
Jun 17, 2004
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Mcleanhatch said:
i guess that other 1% that arafat wanted badly but that the israelies werent willing to give in to was to move the country of Israel somewhere into the bottom of the ocean.
Or maybe he just wanted to make it so that Palestinians could have the freedom to leave their designated territories without being shot.
 
Mar 2, 2004
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arafat was nothing special.

FunK-3-FivE said:
Or maybe he just wanted to make it so that Palestinians could have the freedom to leave their designated territories without being shot.
thats ludacris. dont get it twisted and make it look like palenstines are the victims. i dont see how someone can back this terrorist up. israel was ready to hand things over to em. palenstine needs to learn to get along with em. you say he is so great but the palenstines are still without a state thanks to this guy. they got the wrong leader cuz he wanted the israelis out of the way b4 peace.
 
Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:
the Israeli PM made a deal with clinton at camp david in which they would give arafat what amounted to 99% of what he was asking for. and guess what, Arafat declined, i guess 99% wasnt enough for him he wanted 100%.
When people hack through the propaganda that blankets the U.S. public, it becomes clear that the Oslo accords were an instrument of continued Palestinian subjugation; Israeli settlement building in the occupied territories more than doubled, suggesting that Israeli leaders preferred expansionism and were never serious about a just peace based on international law. An Israeli "matrix of control" -- Jewish-only highways and Israeli checkpoints, enforced by an increasingly brutal occupation army -- cut the occupied territories into isolated cantons, undermining the possibility of a functional Palestinian state. Arafat accepted these repressive terms in exchange for being allowed to continue to rule, the most corrupt of bargains.
 
Mar 2, 2004
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what a crock of bullshit

nefar559 said:
Arafat accepted these repressive terms in exchange for being allowed to continue to rule, the most corrupt of bargains.
arafat accepted terms for being allowed to rule during this time cuz of a string of attacks on innocent women and children from palenstinian terrorists blowing up cafes and bus stations, etc, etc. its wuz israels most bloodiest month in history made by the palestinian terrorists and they called for a push to get arafat and make these terrorists stop these attacks on the innocent. you're calling that corrupt. you're mixed up my friend.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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WestRumble said:
arafat accepted terms for being allowed to rule during this time cuz of a string of attacks on innocent women and children from palenstinian terrorists blowing up cafes and bus stations, etc, etc. its wuz israels most bloodiest month in history made by the palestinian terrorists and they called for a push to get arafat and make these terrorists stop these attacks on the innocent. you're calling that corrupt. you're mixed up my friend.
Say some shit like that at the Bar-B-Q, and I'm gonna knock you out.
 
Jul 10, 2002
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Whoever compared MLK to Arafat needs to do a little more research on King... (that's a ridiculous comparison, the only person comprable to King in contemperary times is his predecessor Ghandi) and neither were anything like Arafat
 
Jul 10, 2004
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FIRST, IN THE VERY FIRST POST U SAID HE WAS A PEACE ADVOCATE, AND THROUGH ALL THESE POSTS ITS PROVEN THAT I WAS JUST IN LAUGHING AT YOU

SECOND YOU SAID HE WAS A SINCERE HUMAN BEING... HAVE YOU MET HIM?

IT SAYS BY ISRAEL EXPANDING THEY ISOLATED THE TERRORISTS INTO CANTONS, SOUNDS GOOD TO ME

AND TO COMPARE MLK TO ARAFAT......................................HAHA
 

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RIP SRM 1/8/03 said:
FIRST, IN THE VERY FIRST POST U SAID HE WAS A PEACE ADVOCATE, AND THROUGH ALL THESE POSTS ITS PROVEN THAT I WAS JUST IN LAUGHING AT YOU

SECOND YOU SAID HE WAS A SINCERE HUMAN BEING... HAVE YOU MET HIM?

IT SAYS BY ISRAEL EXPANDING THEY ISOLATED THE TERRORISTS INTO CANTONS, SOUNDS GOOD TO ME

AND TO COMPARE MLK TO ARAFAT......................................HAHA
WHO IS THIS DIRECTED AT?
 
May 8, 2002
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but everythibg will be OK. even though the palistinian people will be living very poorly like they always have at least Arafats wife will be taken care of with $22 million a year from the palistinian authority
 
Jun 17, 2004
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Jomodo said:
Whoever compared MLK to Arafat needs to do a little more research on King... (that's a ridiculous comparison, the only person comprable to King in contemperary times is his predecessor Ghandi) and neither were anything like Arafat
I've read many books on the man.

Maybe you should do some research on the Palestinian Liberation Organization and Arafat. Once again, I said many people think of him as a sort of MLK fighting for basic human rights of the Palestinians only different in that he used violence to fight violence.
 
Mar 2, 2004
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@mclean sounds like another saddam

L Mac-a-docious said:
FYI, "I'll knock you out at the Bar-B-Q" is Westrumbles trademark...that's why I said it.
thats cute of you lmac to quote me like that. i said that shit cuz ppl that talk shit to me on the computer and not in my face get no respect from me. we can take it to the streets. fuck a computer.

Mcleanhatch said:
but everythibg will be OK. even though the palistinian people will be living very poorly like they always have at least Arafats wife will be taken care of with $22 million a year from the palistinian authority
yup, arafats fam is sittin fat and cozy at their home in france. just like saddam, arafat and his fam were rakin in the doe by the billions while his ppl didnt see that money and starved. samething saddam and his fam did to their ppl. we give them, the palenstines, a support of 20 million a year in taxpayers money.
 
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WestRumble said:
FunK-3-FivE said:
Or maybe he just wanted to make it so that Palestinians could have the freedom to leave their designated territories without being shot.
thats ludacris. dont get it twisted and make it look like palenstines are the victims.
No it is very real. The palestinians were driven out of their homes and forced to live in designated territories much like indian reservations. The Israeli security forces routinely come into these territories and demolish homes with tanks etc etc. It is illegal for Palestinians to leave these designated territories. And if done so, they risk being killed by Israeli security forces who guard the boundaries of these territories.
And if there are terrorist attacks against the security forces, the Israeli forces are known time and time again to retaliate by killing a few innocent Palestinians.
With the voice of the PLO and Arafat, the UN has ruled against many of these actions, even though Israel only obeys some of the rulings, It has made a difference.


JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Amnesty International said Monday there is "clear evidence" of war crimes committed by the Israeli military in two West Bank cities during its offensive last spring.

The report compiled evidence of "unlawful killings, torture and ill-treatment of prisoners; wanton destruction of hundreds of homes, sometimes with the residents still inside; the blocking of ambulances and denial of humanitarian assistance and the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/04/mideast.amnesty.report/index.html


JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The International Committee of the Red Cross said in a statement Wednesday that Israel's West Bank security barrier violates international humanitarian law.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/02/18/mideast/index.html


"Every day, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza violate articles of the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights, an agreement that governs wartime rules of engagement and to which Israel is a member. Palestinian homes and agriculture fields are routinely demolished to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers also regularly arrest and detain-often for years-Palestinians without due process. Israel is the only country in the world that legalizes torture."
-Amnesty International

Israel/Occupied Territories: New report condemns demolition of two Palestinian homes a day
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/15362.shtml

"By killing eight more Palestinians in Nablus, Israel showed once again an utter disregard for human life in the Occupied Territories," -Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/13447.shtml

"Thousands of Palestinians are being denied their fundamental right to live as a family in Israel and the Occupied Territories, said Amnesty International today, as it released a new report calling for the repeal of a discriminatory citizenship law due for review in July."
-Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news/press/15482.shtml