I never been to pen and don't think I will, I'm a county jail dog and that's it..
But reese I think you're comparing the nortenos and surenos to bloods and crips, we don't get down like that at all. There's no such thing as giving a random surenos a hood pass in a well known norteno hood unless he's a family member, if he ain't a family member. I'm 100% positive he will get his head stomped and copied to the concrete.
Nortenos & Surenos can't have "hood politic meetings", that has never happened and never will. So comparing a norteno & sureno cause to bloods & crips should be dismissed all the way.
I seen them surenos in Santa Cruz have no respect for the G-Code, 8 years ago I was out there with my boy and some females. A homeboy out of Salinas was about to get jumped in front of his kids and his wife, me and my boy got in the mix and told them scraps that we can make the fight even. Even tho it was 8 of them vs 3 of us, like the older homies taught me in the past, it's quality over quantity. We got into it and stomped 4-5 of them and the other punks took off running...
Next you know all of 3 of us were in handcuffs, but thanks to some people that watched the whole thing. They told the cops we weren't the instigators at all...
I have never seen a norteno go off on surenos that were hanging out with their families doing they thing and the day I do see it, I will give the homies a piece of my mind about that shit...
But yeah reese, I don't think you looking at our cause when it comes to the norte vs sur funk...
But reese I think you're comparing the nortenos and surenos to bloods and crips, we don't get down like that at all. There's no such thing as giving a random surenos a hood pass in a well known norteno hood unless he's a family member, if he ain't a family member. I'm 100% positive he will get his head stomped and copied to the concrete.
Nortenos & Surenos can't have "hood politic meetings", that has never happened and never will. So comparing a norteno & sureno cause to bloods & crips should be dismissed all the way.
I seen them surenos in Santa Cruz have no respect for the G-Code, 8 years ago I was out there with my boy and some females. A homeboy out of Salinas was about to get jumped in front of his kids and his wife, me and my boy got in the mix and told them scraps that we can make the fight even. Even tho it was 8 of them vs 3 of us, like the older homies taught me in the past, it's quality over quantity. We got into it and stomped 4-5 of them and the other punks took off running...
Next you know all of 3 of us were in handcuffs, but thanks to some people that watched the whole thing. They told the cops we weren't the instigators at all...
I have never seen a norteno go off on surenos that were hanging out with their families doing they thing and the day I do see it, I will give the homies a piece of my mind about that shit...
But yeah reese, I don't think you looking at our cause when it comes to the norte vs sur funk...
In NO WAY am I comparing the Crips & Bloods to North & South, even though it can ALL be classified as Genocide. I speak from the standpoint of having been in both Southern & Northern Cali growing up and dealing with folks from all sides of the fence. It is no secret that I am from San Jose and I have grown up with many Nortenos who were "dedicated" to the cause. ALot of them went on from the street aspect, to clicking up in CYA, and then eventually on to Prison, and ultimatly to the SHU (Corcoran some, Pelican Bay others). They have dedicated thier lives to this, and I trip cause I remember hangin with these cats throughout the streets, juvenile hall, and ranch. I have also come to know and have major respect for some of the Veteranos who were present at the inception of the whole Familia. Yes they are older now, most grey haired, and prefer to just kick it with the fam bam, and bbq all the dam time LOL!, but I tell you this, they aint flamed up, and out there puttin thierselves out there like that if you know what I mean. When you see them they dont give no indication fo whats really, only when need be.
When I spoke on "Hood Politic" meetings. I was speaking specifically for the person who brought the outsider in. Not on a joint kum by yah, lets get together thing, but whats gonna go on with dude from OUR spot for if WE feel thier was a violation, you know? I hope this is clarifying that.
The issue that happened to you in Santa Cruz is an everyday, everywhere occurance. I have seen BOTH sides do stuff like that. When it comes to shit like that, then it goes to if you dealin with some older cats, or are you dealin with some rowdy ass youngstas tryin to make a name for themselves. All I can say on that is karma is a bitch....it WILL come back around to them.
It all comes down to respect. What Slicc Ricc said about that Pen is VERY true. When you hit the yard in CDC Norte & Surenos are some of the most respectful people to each other. Alot of courtesy is going on because of the volatile tension that is between both groups. So when it DOES crack, there better be some type of strategy or meaning behind it. The Northerners are one of the most organized if not the most in prison. They got a cold, well disciplined program that really cannot be equaled by any other group.