Police Use Rubber Bullets, Flash Grenades, And Smoke Bombs To Evict Occupy Oakland

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THEN WHEN CIVIL UNREST HAPPENS AND SHIT HITS THE FAN...THESE TWO PARTIES WILL BE AT FAULT...

THINGS CAN BE DONE. AND THE POLITICIANS HAVE FAILED US...THE ONLY CHANCE THE PEOPLE HAVE, IS BY NOT SITTING PAT AND SHOWING SOME TEETH. AND IF THE RULING CLASS CANT TAKE THE HINT...

THEN THEY WILL EVENTUALLY FEEL THE BITE...

ITS INEVITABLE...THERE IS TOO MANY DOCUMENTED SHEISTY, UNSCRUPULOUS, AND UNFAIR ACTIONS.
THIS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE, TO NOT ONLY OURSELVES BUT OTHER COUNTRIES...WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE OPENING THERE EYES. AND JUST CANT KEEP ON GOING ALONG WITH THE BULLSHIT

THINGS MUST CHANGE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD...
AND BE MADE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL OF US...

I DONT KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE MAN, BUT IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING AT THIS POINT...ONE DAY YOU WILL.
AND NOT CAUSE YOU WANT TOO BUT BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TOO
i understand what your sayin, but thats not what the "people" are saying. and i mean the protestors. they cant even concentrate their focus.

its all the governments fault. im one of the very few on these threads that states that and doesnt run behind some other scapegoat. i dont run behind this "political theatre" talk. its all political rather you want to acknowledge it or not. occupy fuckin DC. DC needs to change. if we get a conservative in the white house next, there wont be any kryptonite there to stop these protestors from rallying hard there. then maybe shit would change.
 
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Your the type of person to use stupid analogies when they're not needed. How do you go from being behind the "people" in the Middle East just because are government is to absolutely bad-mouthing are folks here protesting every chance you get. Oh I know why because your not really into democracy you're facist fanatic.
im the type of person to use analogies if the person im debating desperatly needs an analogy.

and i dont understand your second sentence. what is the "people" in the middle east incident your talking about? and then i can answer.
 
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Most cops are fucking dicks and think their shit don't stink. I don't give a shit what anyone says in defense of them. The majority of them are in their own subculture and that's the major problem why they can't get a long or don't really give a shit about the rest of society. Their manipulated into thinking the rest of society is inferior. They prey upon our mistakes and it boosts their egos. Their all fucken brain washed and do it for the money. It all fucken comes down to money for these pigs, it's their motivation to enforce these stupid laws. They get paid great to be assholes. Their all bribed. Fucking heartless robots.

Anyways, this shit might get really ugly. I doubt the Occupy movement just stops. Shit is just going to grow into riots if they organize and get bigger.
 

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Footage from the Occupy Oakland clash with police. This shit makes me sick, honestly. Watch the pig throw the flash grenade at the group trying to help Scott Olsen, a veteran of Iraq, who got in the face with a teargas canister. This is what it's come down to.
 
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12.57pm: Indybay.org has pictures apparently of Scott Olsen, showing him lying on the floor and then being escorted away.

Jay Finneburg posted the pictures to Indybay. He wrote:

This poor guy was right behind me when he was hit in the head with a police projectile. He went down hard and did not get up. The bright light in the second shot is from a flash-bang grenade that went off a few feet from us. He was eventually taken to highland hospital.

Further down the thread Aaron Hinde writes that the bleeding man is "a veteran and a member of iraq veterans against the war". Hinde adds that he is "in the hospital and stable but he has serious injuries, we will see how he is doing in the morning when he wakes up".

Later a Indybay user named Adele wrote: "I'm at highland [a hospital in Oakland] with Scott now. If ppl saw him get hit, know who brought him in to the hospital or know how to get in touch w his roommate or family, pls msg me. I can't confirm this at the moment."

I can't confirm these accounts at the moment, but am trying to get in touch with all three people who posted regarding Olsen.

1.30pm: Scott Olsen, the protester shown with head injuries, apparently after being hit in the head by a police projectile, has a skull fracture and is in a "serious, but stable condition", according to a fellow protester with him in hospital.

Adele Carpenter, who has known Olsen since July, said she was told by a doctor at Highland hospital, in Oakland, that Olsen "has a skull fracture".

Carpenter arrived at Highland hospital in Oakland at 11pm last night, and has been allowed to visit Olsen – a former US marine, who did two tours of Iraq – this morning, she said.

"I'm just absolutely devastated that someone who did two tours of Iraq and came home safely is now lying in a US hospital because of the domestic police force," Carpenter said.

She said Olsen moved to the Bay area in July. The former marine, 24, left the military in 2010. Olsen is originally from Wisconsin, Carpenter said, adding that his family have been informed about his condition. A "military buddy" is also on his way to visit Olsen in hospital.

Video footage shows Olsen lying prone on the ground in front of police lines. A crowd gathers in an apparent bid to help him, but then scatters when a police officer throws an explosive device into their midst.

2.24pm: I've just spoken to Keith Shannon, roommate of Scott Olsen, the Iraq veteran who is in hospital after apparently having been hit in the head by a police projectile.

Shannon said doctors told him Olsen has a "skull fracture and swelling of the brain". A neurosurgeon will assess Olsen later today to determine whether he needs surgery, Shannon said.

Olsen, 24, was in 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines, before leaving the military last year. He had been opposed to the Iraq war even before his first tour to the country, Shannon said. Shannon and Olsen met in November or December 2005, and share an apartment in Daly City, south of San Francisco.

"It's really hard," Shannon said. "I really wish I had gone out with him instead of staying home last night."

Shannon, who is also 24, said he had seen the video footage showing Olsen lying on the floor as a police officer throws an explosive device near him.

"It's terrible to go over to Iraq twice and come back injured, and then get injured by the police that are supposed to be protecting us," he said.

Shannon said Olsen was hit in the head by a tear gas canister or smoke canister shot by a police officer. He said Olsen had a curved scar on his forehead consistent with a canister

Protesters who had accompanied Olsen to Highland hospital got in touch with Shannon through Facebook, after Olsen said he lived with someone called "Keith". Shannon said he was told Olsen was unable to say his surname.

Olsen's parents, who live in Wisnconsin, have been told he is in hospital and were "probably going to fly out", Shannon said.

Both Olsen and Shannon are members of Iraq Veterans Against the War and Veterans for Peace, Shannon said. He added that Olsen had been opposed to the war in Iraq before his tours of duty. Olsen served in Iraq in 2006 and 2007.

3.10pm: Scott Olsen is in a "critical condition", in Highland hospital, a spokesman for the hospital has just confirmed to me.

(We already knew he was there from the accounts below, but this is the first official confirmation).

4.12pm: Veterans for Peace have released a statement on Scott Olsen, the former marine who suffered a fractured skull in Oakland yesterday.

Veteran For Peace member, Scott Olsen, a Marine Corps veteran twice deployed to Iraq, is in hospital now in stable but serious condition with a fractured skull, struck by a police projectile fired into a crowd in downtown Oakland, California in the early morning hours of today. Other people were injured in the assault and many were arrested after Oakland police in riot gear were ordered to evict people encamped in the ongoing "Occupy Oakland" movement. Olsen is also a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/26/occupy-oakland-protests-live


Occupy Oakland: Iraq vet critically injured by police projectile


http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_19203318

In what appears to be the first serious injury nationwide in the Occupy Wall Street movement, a 24-year-old Iraq War veteran lay in an Oakland hospital Wednesday night with a critical skull fracture, adding a new level of intensity in a mass demonstration that has swept the country and led to clashes with police.

Scott Thomas Olsen, 24, of Daly City, was struck in the head above his right eye with a tear-gas canister during a massive confrontation Tuesday night in which protesters threw rocks and bottles at police officers who deployed tear gas and fired bean bags to disperse the crowd of about 1,000.

"It's absolutely unconscionable that our citizens are going overseas to protect other citizens just to come back and have our own police hurt them," said Joshua Shepherd, a six-year Navy veteran and friend of Olsen.

Wednesday night, protesters ripped down a chain-link fence around the lawn at Frank H. Ogawa Plaza and at least 1,000 protesters chanted "our park" as they considered plans to try to encourage city businesses and workers to go on strike Friday. Police were not at the scene early Wednesday evening, but officers were expected to stage at two different downtown locations.

Earlier, police had removed the portable metal barriers from around Frank H. Ogawa Plaza and about 200 protesters immediately returned, pumping their fists in the air and vowing to reclaim the place they now call Oscar Grant Plaza, after a man who was killed by BART police in 2009.

Mayor under fire

Wednesday afternoon, many gathered to hold a vigil for the injured Marine corporal, who hails from Onalaska, Wisc.

"He survived two tours in Iraq," said Adele Carpenter, a friend of Olsen's and a member of the Civilian Soldier Alliance. "This struggle has high stakes, I really respect the fact that Scott was standing up for what he believes in. He's really passionate about social justice causes."

Acting police Chief Howard Jordan said the incident is under investigation by Internal Affairs, Office of Investigator General, Alameda County District Attorney's Office and the federal monitor that oversees Oakland police as a part of a settlement police corruption lawsuit. Oakland police will also review its training, policies and procedures.

Jordan called the incident "unfortunate," adding that he wished it did not happen. "The goal is not to cause injury," he said.

He said Oakland police used bean bags and gas but do not use or have rubber bullets or wooden dowels. It is possible that other agencies did, he said. More than a dozen from across Northern California assisted Oakland police under what is called a mutual aid agreement. They are, however, required to comply with Oakland policies.

The Oakland Police Department has requested use of force reports from the outside agencies.

Meanwhile, Mayor Jean Quan has come under fire for the situation. Her Facebook page has drawn comments from at least 8,900 people, many posting negative remarks on her Tuesday morning statement commending police, firefighters and public works crews who "worked over the past week to peacefully close the encampment." The comments call for her ouster, say she is unfit for office, and say she should be ashamed of how police acted.

Officers also injured

Olsen, a systems analyst at a San Francisco IT firm called OPSWAT, had camped out for several nights at San Francisco's occupation before moving to Oakland a few days ago.

Olsen was one of several hundred angry protesters who swarmed through Oakland's downtown well into the morning hours on Wednesday, repeatedly clashing with riot police. In some cases, protesters threw bottles and tipped over garbage containers. Oakland police said two of its officers were injured when a protester doused them with cans of blue and pink paint.

Protesters lambasted the police response as "heavy handed" and criticized the use of projectiles such as the one that struck Olsen.

"He was shot by the people who were supposed to protect him," said Keith Shannon, 24, Olsen's Daly City roommate and former Marine colleague. "It shows what lengths the government will go to to suppress opposing points of view."

The Marine

Olsen served two tours of duty in Iraq, once to the Iraqi-Syrian border city of Al Qaim from August 2006 to May 2007, and once to Haditha, in 2008. Both cities were hotbeds of al-Qaida and insurgent activity.

In 2010, the Marines issued Olsen an "administrative discharge." Maj. Shawn Haney, a Marines spokesman based in Quantico, Va., declined to discuss Olsen's discharge, but said his departure could have been for anything from a medical condition to a punitive measure.

Another young man, a 30-year-old Irish national named Seamus, lay writhing on the ground sobbing Wednesday afternoon clutching a grapefruit-sized bruise above his left hip. He said he and Olsen had been together when Olsen was hit. Seamus said his bruise was the result of a police projectile. Other protesters gathered around Seamus and showed off small rubber buckshot pellets they said police had fired at them.

Olsen's parents planned to fly to Oakland on Thursday to see their son. Highland Hospital administrators said Olsen remained in critical condition, with no change in his status since his admission Tuesday night. But friends and acquaintances said hospital officials told them Olsen had suffered a skull fracture and was at risk of brain damage.
 
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Sydal and Foul Mouth will defend the state here calling the protestors silly, disorganized, etc. but go on to bitch about how it's good we support The state in other countries shutting down people's democratic right to assembly.

This false presumption, and fucked up dichotomy is why the popo exist and can get off on the people in their very same class.
Nobody is defending the state. I believe I've already spoken about the occupy movement and stated that people need to be ORGANIZED and know how to support the movement. Some folks are there for their own reasons rather than as a collective, some are there to be cool, and some are there as a collective, moving toward a common goal. Some of my folks are out there, and I support them 100%...they know what the fuck they are protesting. Standing on a street is not going to do ANYTHING, because at the end of the day they are still using what makes the rich...well, RICH.

You have mf's in New York protesting corporations, while they spread their message using modern technology and Facebook and Twitter...and eating McDonald's...it makes NO FUCKING SENSE...AT ALL!

The best way to hurt the rich is to stop supporting them. Don't buy their shit, don't use their shit, etc. etc. But then you have to be careful, because that creates job loss. So it's a real thin fuckin' line right now...it can be very successful or it can go very bad for a LOT of people.

While I support the people who have a goal and are vocal about what they would like to see happen, I can't be out there pounding the pavement with them for 2 reasons.

1. I have a family to feed, therefore I am required to work Monday-Friday.

2. If you can't beat them, join them. I have seen a 400% return on my investments. The corporations may pay me a shit salary, but at the end of the day I am still making a substantial profit off of somebody else's success. People need to start using their brains.

You obviously don't know me or what I stand for...
 
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You two and that channel are the only ones pushing those story lines like that. Take it how you like.
im not offended by the Fox News post. it just shows you aint got much else to use. and sure we are the only ones pushing those story lines. keep suckin MSNBC's titty.

it seems like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck fucked, had you, then Rachel Maddow raised you.