Pelican Bay Prison Hunger Strike starts July 1st
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Wait, you were friends with a baby toucher/baby killer?
And as to the topic, MO, you seem to be completely missing the point. The inmates are not asking for 'nice' living conditions, they're asking that the state simply meets minimum human rights standards when it locks people up. Saying that the average prisoner lives better than the average person, even at the poverty level, is laughable, and if you really think conditions in supermaxes. and the SHU at pelican bay, and all of the other places they stick inmates the want to mete out the harshest punushment on, are humane then you and I either have very different versions of humane, or you need to do a little more research.
And as to the topic, MO, you seem to be completely missing the point. The inmates are not asking for 'nice' living conditions, they're asking that the state simply meets minimum human rights standards when it locks people up. Saying that the average prisoner lives better than the average person, even at the poverty level, is laughable, and if you really think conditions in supermaxes. and the SHU at pelican bay, and all of the other places they stick inmates the want to mete out the harshest punushment on, are humane then you and I either have very different versions of humane, or you need to do a little more research.
I was under the impression that there were more secure federal prisons, like places in colorado that are built mostly underground. But who really cares, anywhere where you are isolated to that degree, where you get little to no human contact, are, by definition, inhumane. Isolation like that is LITERALLY torture, and the fact that we STATE SPONSER IT is a fucking travesty.
And as to your 'friend', I know all my dude's well enough to know they aren't out raping and killing children, IDK what to even say about that one. But If your view of prison is based on the fact that you think all inmates are like that dude, well, then you're just wrong.
And as to your 'friend', I know all my dude's well enough to know they aren't out raping and killing children, IDK what to even say about that one. But If your view of prison is based on the fact that you think all inmates are like that dude, well, then you're just wrong.
just really shows you though, you never know about people in general...you might think you know someone...i never thought i knew anyone that would or could do that shit...he'll burn for it...in prison and hell
and no not every inmate is the same...but from what i know about pelican bay is that its one of the toughest prisons especially with that SHU shit...maybe im over generalizing it. what do you have to do to end up in SHU?
Just because a person is locked up doesnt make them any less of a human then us on the outside world. The fucked up thing about folks being locked up is half of these places dont think about the fact that the inmates locked up alot of them are going to go home but without skills or any type of training they are going to go back to the same shit they did before. Unless you know somebody that has been locked up or you have been locked up in all honesty shut the fuck up. alot of people are in there because of bullshit charges or people lying to save there own asses. My dad was in and out for a long time and I run across people all the time getting out and odds are unless they have some sort of training or schooling while they were locked up they are going to go back in, and its sad that the prisons dont give a fuck to them all these inmates are to them is another paycheck.
But officials hope they can use the SHU to beat the gangs. In Pelican Bay, inmates accused of gang membership are held in the SHU for the duration of their sentence. To get out, an inmate has to prove to prison officials that he's left the gang. In theory, he can do that by severing all contact with the gang. But he has to do it for six years and most gang members say that's impossible. The alternative is to take the quick way out. The inmate can agree to what's called "debriefing." In debriefing, a prisoner has to divulge everything he knows about the gang and even agree to testify against other members. In other words, if he doesn't want to serve his whole term alone in a tiny cell, he has to become a snitch.
this is what were talking about?
because if thats it...then i was generalizing
that shit sounds like suicide to me...
this is what were talking about?
because if thats it...then i was generalizing
that shit sounds like suicide to me...
this is it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
talked to a dude in county that had spent actual time in there, shit sounded like something out of a science fiction movie, thats where they kept john gotti jr. and many other high level people that wouldnt cooperate with the feds are hanging out underground in there as we speak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
talked to a dude in county that had spent actual time in there, shit sounded like something out of a science fiction movie, thats where they kept john gotti jr. and many other high level people that wouldnt cooperate with the feds are hanging out underground in there as we speak
^^^Yeah, thats the place I was talking about. I mean, there is simply no way to justify that shit. If you are inflicting enough psychological harm on someone that they stop eating in order to kill themselves, and then you feed them through a tube to keep them alive... fuck, that shit hurts just to think about.
THIS!
Back in '06 I was sick as fuck and sat in my house for a little over a month. By the time I was completely better and ready to go, I was pissed off, a bit anti-social, and a little fucked up in the head because I hadn't seen or heard from anybody in that long. I wouldn't even want to be isolated in a box for years on end...I can't imagine what that would do to the human psyche if a month with no contact fucked with me.
Back in '06 I was sick as fuck and sat in my house for a little over a month. By the time I was completely better and ready to go, I was pissed off, a bit anti-social, and a little fucked up in the head because I hadn't seen or heard from anybody in that long. I wouldn't even want to be isolated in a box for years on end...I can't imagine what that would do to the human psyche if a month with no contact fucked with me.
