Pacquiao is an Easy Fight For Mayweather, Says Ellerbe
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Well since we know Pac would never take a fight with a 6 footer (and to Cottos credit he did) I guesss I can stick with my opinion and you can stick with yours
He did beat Judah... That is clear. The way he was able to stay in the fight was suspect. When Judah had the upper hand, Cotto resorted to fighting dirty and hit Judah with blatant low blows. Any man getting hit in the balls, you know it changes the game
He did beat Judah... That is clear. The way he was able to stay in the fight was suspect. When Judah had the upper hand, Cotto resorted to fighting dirty and hit Judah with blatant low blows. Any man getting hit in the balls, you know it changes the game
Simply not true, look at all the polls that took place on boxing forums the majority of folks thought cotto won (along with boxing insiders/writers/websites/etc.).
I am. Why wouldn't I? Going into the fight I didn't give a shit who won, I wasn't biased - I just wanted to see a good fight. I actually predicted Mosley would win.
Not even close to a robbery!!!
You don't think I don't call it how I see it? I scored the fight for cotto. Why is that hard for you to understand? I'm certainly not alone in that regard.
So you're not impressed with Pac's destruction of Cotto? If cotto was shit like you say, then why couldn't your boy Shane Mosley stop him? Or drop him? Why did shane struggle with him? Why did EVERYONE struggle against Cotto (even margarito lost like 5 rounds to cotto)? How could that be possible, and yet, here is some little Filipino guy that you say will be exposed, comes in and absolutely destroys him? That makes no sense comrade, I'm sorry, but you're coming off like a hater. You've been downplaying Pac's accomplishments for a while now homie. Man up and give him the props he deserves.
I am. Why wouldn't I? Going into the fight I didn't give a shit who won, I wasn't biased - I just wanted to see a good fight. I actually predicted Mosley would win.
Not even close to a robbery!!!
You don't think I don't call it how I see it? I scored the fight for cotto. Why is that hard for you to understand? I'm certainly not alone in that regard.
So you're not impressed with Pac's destruction of Cotto? If cotto was shit like you say, then why couldn't your boy Shane Mosley stop him? Or drop him? Why did shane struggle with him? Why did EVERYONE struggle against Cotto (even margarito lost like 5 rounds to cotto)? How could that be possible, and yet, here is some little Filipino guy that you say will be exposed, comes in and absolutely destroys him? That makes no sense comrade, I'm sorry, but you're coming off like a hater. You've been downplaying Pac's accomplishments for a while now homie. Man up and give him the props he deserves.
OK, He fought Margarito at 5'11"", a inch a way from 6 ft. That better?
Mosely fought the best Cotto there out there so of course he was smart to fight a disciplined fight that didn't lead to a knock out (Though you could see a KO was comin towards the end of the fight). The undefeated Cotto. Pac Man fought the Cotto who was a shell of him self. Point blank Period... You can agree with that right? Good
Cotto lost simple as that. If it was as close as you say, where was the rematch? Mosely didn't desreve a rematch in a close Cotto win? How many times has Pac Man fought rematches with JMM or Morales? C'mon man. A second fight would have proved to be a different outcome.
Mayweather beat a DLH at 154... Could Cotto do that? Of course not. he did it at 147 where DLH was basically stripped of any of his boxing advantages. If I get on one both knees and tie my hands behind my back, I bet a midget could beat me up too.
I'm not downplaying Pac nor hating, it aint in my blood to hate. He never would have beat a game Cotto and you know it. A shell of Cotto, well we see how that turned out. He also beat a Washed up Glass chin Hatton. Well Mayweather and Mosely aint a shell of anything so lets see how that turns out for him. I like Pac as much as the next man, but I aint with pre annointing fighters or giving them propers for something they don't deserve.
Mosely fought the best Cotto there out there so of course he was smart to fight a disciplined fight that didn't lead to a knock out (Though you could see a KO was comin towards the end of the fight). The undefeated Cotto. Pac Man fought the Cotto who was a shell of him self. Point blank Period... You can agree with that right? Good
Cotto lost simple as that. If it was as close as you say, where was the rematch? Mosely didn't desreve a rematch in a close Cotto win? How many times has Pac Man fought rematches with JMM or Morales? C'mon man. A second fight would have proved to be a different outcome.
Mayweather beat a DLH at 154... Could Cotto do that? Of course not. he did it at 147 where DLH was basically stripped of any of his boxing advantages. If I get on one both knees and tie my hands behind my back, I bet a midget could beat me up too.
I'm not downplaying Pac nor hating, it aint in my blood to hate. He never would have beat a game Cotto and you know it. A shell of Cotto, well we see how that turned out. He also beat a Washed up Glass chin Hatton. Well Mayweather and Mosely aint a shell of anything so lets see how that turns out for him. I like Pac as much as the next man, but I aint with pre annointing fighters or giving them propers for something they don't deserve.
Nope. A shell of himself? lol come on bro, stop the hate.
Sorry, the boxing majority disagree with you comrade.
A rematch was in order after Cotto beat Margarito, at least that was the plan. Obviously cotto lost and shane fought margarito instead. There was no need to fight an immediate rematch as the boxing world wanted a Cotto vs Margarito fight to crown a true 147 pound champion.
And in the JMM fights they never had immediate rematches.
Unlikely, but you have your opinion and I have mine. No way to prove it one way or another.
Actually you are by stating:
You just downplayed his victory. See what you did there? As well as saying Cintron would KO pacquiao when you have absolutely no grounds to base that on and cintron has proven to suck time & time again.
No you don't.
And who is? The man was fighting at 130 pounds not that long ago and worked his way up the latter and smashed everyone since. Sure, he could very lose to mayweather, but what does that prove? Does that expose pacquiao? Does that mean he sucks? lmao, absolutely not, as pacquiao lets be real belongs at 140 pounds. But what Pac is doing right now is taking challenges something Mayweather simply doesn't do, and that's why the history books will forever have Pac ranked higher on the all time great list than Floyd. And roid mosley needs to worry about Berto like I said, he has his hands full.
Sorry, the boxing majority disagree with you comrade.
A rematch was in order after Cotto beat Margarito, at least that was the plan. Obviously cotto lost and shane fought margarito instead. There was no need to fight an immediate rematch as the boxing world wanted a Cotto vs Margarito fight to crown a true 147 pound champion.
And in the JMM fights they never had immediate rematches.
Unlikely, but you have your opinion and I have mine. No way to prove it one way or another.
Actually you are by stating:
You just downplayed his victory. See what you did there? As well as saying Cintron would KO pacquiao when you have absolutely no grounds to base that on and cintron has proven to suck time & time again.
No you don't.
And who is? The man was fighting at 130 pounds not that long ago and worked his way up the latter and smashed everyone since. Sure, he could very lose to mayweather, but what does that prove? Does that expose pacquiao? Does that mean he sucks? lmao, absolutely not, as pacquiao lets be real belongs at 140 pounds. But what Pac is doing right now is taking challenges something Mayweather simply doesn't do, and that's why the history books will forever have Pac ranked higher on the all time great list than Floyd. And roid mosley needs to worry about Berto like I said, he has his hands full.
I honestly would not want to see a fight with that much of a height difference. Not with Pac or Mayweather. Mayweather aint no giant. 5'9" to 6'3" is crazy and 5'6" to 6'3" is even crazier.
If you call that downplaying then I can live with that. We'll never agree so I'll let Mayweather or Mosely (Or Cintron LOL) speak for me when Pac Man fights one of the two. But in your heart you know the outcome. No matter how much you eloquently put my words in quotes, you know the outcome don't you?
Pac is a great fighter and any man can respect the challenges he makes. He's a great fighter, not a great Welterweight fighter is my point
Honestly I'd rather see Mayweather vs. Mosley. But I aint nuthin but an ol' real boxing fan so what do I know
If you call that downplaying then I can live with that. We'll never agree so I'll let Mayweather or Mosely (Or Cintron LOL) speak for me when Pac Man fights one of the two. But in your heart you know the outcome. No matter how much you eloquently put my words in quotes, you know the outcome don't you?
Pac is a great fighter and any man can respect the challenges he makes. He's a great fighter, not a great Welterweight fighter is my point
Honestly I'd rather see Mayweather vs. Mosley. But I aint nuthin but an ol' real boxing fan so what do I know
No I don't know the outcome until the fight actually happens, I'm not psychic nor are you.
I will say this - what does it prove if Mayweather or Mosley beats Pacquiao? Does it expose pacquiao? Does it ruin his legacy? Or could one say Pac is fighting in a weight class higher than what he should be fighting at?
And just for shits & giggles:
Paul Williams dwarfed Margarito. Pacquiao would come up to like his waist!!
I will say this - what does it prove if Mayweather or Mosley beats Pacquiao? Does it expose pacquiao? Does it ruin his legacy? Or could one say Pac is fighting in a weight class higher than what he should be fighting at?
And just for shits & giggles:
Paul Williams dwarfed Margarito. Pacquiao would come up to like his waist!!
It doesn't ruin any ones legacy. It's already in stone. Why ask that? My point is if you are the annointed Welterweight king, then continue your risk vs reward right? Or just come out and say you only take calculated risk, like fighting near shot fighters like Hatton and Cotto. We all know Mayweather is a business man who has a problem overlooking fighters who he feels have not paid their dues like many fighter did to him. He aint scared to fight. He needs to lay off the business and just line em up and beat em.
Exactly^, he beats the same fighters Mayweather already beats and gets all the credit in the world and shoots up the rankings (to #1) but then they dog Mayweather and say he doesn't fight the best. Huh.... He fought the same fighters Manny fought.
Anyone else see the double standard?
Manny and JMM go to war and the fights were very close and Manny gets credit.
Mayweather fights and dominates JMM but doesn't get any credit.
Anyone else see the double standard?
Manny and JMM go to war and the fights were very close and Manny gets credit.
Mayweather fights and dominates JMM but doesn't get any credit.