OK OK I THINK THIS WHOLE IMMIGRATION LAW IS WRONG BUT..WTF ARE THESE MEXICANS THINKIN

[carl winslow]

i dont fully buy all you that say you dont have a problem with immigrants, only ones that come and stay here illegally. since when is the law the ethical rule to follow. so you have a problem with ppl that speed, and smoke weed, and drink when theyre 20? i dont think so. and you guys make it sound like becoming a legal citizen is easy...that shit is not easy at all and takes years to do...ppl are starving and dont have time for that. so say the govt decided to make all these immigrants legal, you guys would now be happy and go "oh ok, now that theyre all legally here i dont have a problem with them. lets be real, its deeper for you than whats legal and what isnt.

but at the core all this really is, is the lifelong battle between the proletariats and the bourgeousie. and its sad that so many ppl allow ignorance and ethnocentrism hinder thier support for their fellow workers (the immigrants...and not just mexican immigrants...ppl come from other parts of the world too), and instead support the capitalist elites who are the real ones all of us should be concerened about. ppl let shit like taxes and medical insurance sway thier opinion on this matter, and go on to blame immigrants for these problems when its really ceos like the pharmaceudical ceos that are the real reason for you not having health insurance. also, the reason so many ppl are leaving countries, like say mexico, is cause their govt system is so fucked up and corrupt. and the usa aids and supports that corruption, so in a sense the usa does kinda owe it to those immigrants. if the usa is such a rightious spreader of democracy why not bomb and rebuild mexico? trust me, mexicans dont come to the usa cause they wanna be white or american, but cause theyre human beings and like every other human being, they want to eat. if they could do that in thier homeland, believe me theyd be more than happy to that there. not only do it think immigrants should be allowed to stay but they should get a drastic pay raise for working the fields. as should everyone that does working class labor. no matter where youre from, as long as you do the work.
it happens time and time again in history, but ppl continue to do it, and thats fight with our fellow brothers for the scraps that are kicked down to us. ppl either get frustrated with what they dont have and blame the ppl theyre told to blame for it, or they get comfortable and buy into the fear that certian ppl will take thier comfort from them. all the while the fat cats who are creating all this chaos laugh all the way to the bank while we destroy ouselves.

 

[Y-S]

lol imagine all tanks and helicopters all over the city in the streets

 

[MeloTrauma]

Wow, I seen some of your guys true colors exposed in this thread. But let me add my piece. My dad was illegal until about 5 years ago. All his life he's worked AND PAYED TAXES. He's been a contributing member of society for years, just as many other Mexicans who come to this country are. Isn't that what this country was based upon, the land of opportunity? Bottom line is, the government knows how economically disaterous it would be to rid this country of illegals, so its never going to happen. Wave whatever flag you want. I just want to know, for those of you who say stop illegal immigration, can you tell me how they are directly affecting you negatively in your everyday life?

 

[ESCOBAR]

I just want to know, for those of you who say stop illegal immigration, can you tell me how they are directly affecting you negatively in your everyday life?

YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, HOWEVER SOME OF US(ME) WHO WERE TALKIN SHIT WERE SIMPLY STATING THAT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO WHINE... TO ME A GREEN CARD IS LIKE A DRIVERS LICENSE, I DONT CARE IF YOU GOT IT OR NOT I'LL RIDE WITH YOU.. BUT IF YOU GET POPPED DONT CRY THAT ITS BULLSHIT CUZ YOU ALREADY KNEW YOU WERE IN THE WRONG YA DIG?

 

[Grimy]

It takes time to die of cancer...maybe they shoulda thought of that before they decided to come over here illgeally huh???

SO YOU MEAN TO TELL US THAT IF YOU HAD... PER SAY A RELATIVE THAT NEEDED A LIVER TRANSPLANT AND THE "ONLY" DONOR COMPATIBLE WAS A PERSON WHO WAS HERE "ILLEGALLY" YOU WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR RELATIVE DOESNT GET THE LIVER?? :ermm: "..WAIT!! NOOO MOM DONT ACCEPT THAT LIVER ITS COMMING FROM AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!..." LOL U DUMB ASS..:devious:

 

[saladbowlking]

YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, HOWEVER SOME OF US(ME) WHO WERE TALKIN SHIT WERE SIMPLY STATING THAT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO WHINE... TO ME A GREEN CARD IS LIKE A DRIVERS LICENSE, I DONT CARE IF YOU GOT IT OR NOT I'LL RIDE WITH YOU.. BUT IF YOU GET POPPED DONT CRY THAT ITS BULLSHIT CUZ YOU ALREADY KNEW YOU WERE IN THE WRONG YA DIG?

THATS ALL FINE AND DANDY , BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PENALIZE ANYONE INVOLVED WITH A FELONY?????? IF YOU WERE IN THE SITUATION OF ANYONE WHO THIS AFFECTS DIRECTLY YOU WOULD SEE THAT CATCHING A FELONY CASE FOR HELPING SOMEONE OUT IS BULLSHIT ...I DONT WANT TO HEAR "OH DEAR THATS WHERE MY TAX DOLLARS ARE GONIG" BULLSHIT, CAUSE MOST OF THE BEAN BAGS WORKING HERE ARE PAYING TAXES AS WELL.... AND IF YOU STILL DONT GET IT , THAN UR JUST A FUKIN IDIOT!!!

 

[Grimy]

growed lol

HAHAHA^^^ YUP ALMOST AS BAD AS BLACKS SAYING "AXED" "FRIGERATOR" "WE IS" "NEM NIGGAZ" "BIDNEZZ" ETC ETC..LOL:devious:

 

[Grimy]

THATS ALL FINE AND DANDY , BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PENALIZE ANYONE INVOLVED WITH A FELONY?????? IF YOU WERE IN THE SITUATION OF ANYONE WHO THIS AFFECTS DIRECTLY YOU WOULD SEE THAT CATCHING A FELONY CASE FOR HELPING SOMEONE OUT IS BULLSHIT ...I DONT WANT TO HEAR "OH DEAR THATS WHERE MY TAX DOLLARS ARE GONIG" BULLSHIT, CAUSE MOST OF THE BEAN BAGS WORKING HERE ARE PAYING TAXES AS WELL.... AND IF YOU STILL DONT GET IT , THAN UR JUST A FUKIN IDIOT!!!

TRUE ^^ LOL

 

[Grimy]

Grimy......thats a cowards way out.

YEAH I KNOW IT IS... IM SAYING IT BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT EVERYONE WOULD FIGHT ME ONE ON ONE OR WITHOUT GUNS OR KNIFES TIL I FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY THEY DONT ALMOST GOT MY ASS KILLED
THATS WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY.

 

[Grimy]

my grandpa was an italian imigrant....we got big dicks

Thats was borderline gay wtf u doing?checking out your grandpa's dick? lol

 

[saladbowlking]

^^THAT WAS FAR FROM THE BORDER, THAT WAS SUPER GAY........

 

[Y-S]

rofl......

 

[NASA]

i think the best move our government could make right now would be to send in the national guard and have these little turds sent back to where they came from...

lol

I'm sure Native Americans were thinking pretty much the same thing when Europeans set foot on American soil for the first time.

 

[pAc0]

some of these folks were never born or raised in the U.S. and they have no clue,what so ever,of what life is outside the U.S. If you're a minority you'd appreciate what this country has to offer, i sure do. I was an illegal at one point, and it didn't make me less of a person. I just didn't have the legal documents, at the time, to let the GOVERNMENT know that i'm here in the U.S.
Some people say that we dont' pay taxes! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ANYBODY that works payes taxes from field workers, pavers, painters, lawn care, fast food, construction, medical, warehouse, automotive, and laborers in general. All those listed above^ and beyond pay their taxes....so to say we don't contribute to society is BULLSHIT!!!! It's the EMPLOYER's responsibility & decision to let the govt. know that he wants to pay taxes or not. I use to work for a company that paid me cash instead of being on payroll.....all that matttered at the time was getting paid so i could support myself, g/f and my bills!!!

Some of you act like were're suppose to speak english as soon as we cross that border. As if it's so EASY to learn and speak a 2nd language!!!!! The way you guys "type" is not "racist" but prejudice!!! You don't like another person because of the color of skin, the clothes he wears, or the language he speaks is pure hatred, prejudice, ignorant, close-minded, or racist!

So what if kids walked out of school...even though they're not old enough to vote they can send a message!!!!! They do have parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, brothers, sisters, and relatives that affects them as well.

So because we live in this country...we gotta live like the average amerikan, by sippin' wine, dress in patriotic colors, not cook, become a couch patatoe, use meth, eat breakfast,lunch&dinner @ restaurants, speak english, read poetry, go to museums, eat the U.S. version of "pizza", celebrate every pointless holiday, eat bread& milk for dinner, say the U.S. pledge, put da U.S. flag outside my house, love football, and have a mentality of "if it ain't american it ain't right".......... we are human beings and each one of us deserves to live life as WE PLEASE!!!!Whether you came here illegally or not!!!

I ain't gonna hate on Muhamed because he owns a 7/11 and is doing better than me and came here to the u.s. with faulty papers......that's his life he can live it the way he wants as long as he ain't breaking the laws, supporting his family, and lives a positive life!!!

We "immigrants" come here to live a better life....we are not better than you. We live life to the fullest whether it's breaking my back cutting Mr. Johnson's lawn so i can feed the family, pay bills(taxes included), and send money down south so my parents can live a mere decent life.....the way my parents supported their parents.

"you guys take all our jobs" STOP BEING LAZY AND STOP EXPECTING A HIGH WAGE!!!! Minorities have a far better working ethics than the majority of americans. Some people won't work at fastfood because they "think" it's "good for them", or the wages suck(which they do) but it's money!! Instead you RELY on your parents to give you your allowance or co-sign for the new car(you don't deserve).

People die crossing that border everyday and the only reason they risk their lives is to better themselves and their families. But some of you don't care and have no heart(until you loose a loved one, you'll know what i'm talkin about).

America loves to hate....you even label the lower class of your own race as "trailer trash" or "white trash"......when they are no different from you just because they make a certain salary, way they dress, or where they live.

Some of you are so proud of your country that it's stupid. The Govt. takes your money....makes you pay taxes, trys to recruit men for the army, makes you pay those DMV fees, jack the prices on gas, medical care is the most expensive along with prescribed drugs,
some people never get to see their social security, pay sky-high insurance fees, screw the consumer in any way shape or form, screw you with interest rates, overcharge your car purchase, and put a U.S. Embassy in every country they can.

Fuck patriotism!!!! I LIVE MY OWN LIFE NOT THE COUNTRY'S!!!!!

 

[Grimy]

some of these folks were never born or raised in the U.S. and they have no clue,what so ever,of what life is outside the U.S. If you're a minority you'd appreciate what this country has to offer, i sure do. I was an illegal at one point, and it didn't make me less of a person. I just didn't have the legal documents, at the time, to let the GOVERNMENT know that i'm here in the U.S.
Some people say that we dont' pay taxes! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ANYBODY that works payes taxes from field workers, pavers, painters, lawn care, fast food, construction, medical, warehouse, automotive, and laborers in general. All those listed above^ and beyond pay their taxes....so to say we don't contribute to society is BULLSHIT!!!! It's the EMPLOYER's responsibility & decision to let the govt. know that he wants to pay taxes or not. I use to work for a company that paid me cash instead of being on payroll.....all that matttered at the time was getting paid so i could support myself, g/f and my bills!!!

Some of you act like were're suppose to speak english as soon as we cross that border. As if it's so EASY to learn and speak a 2nd language!!!!! The way you guys "type" is not "racist" but prejudice!!! You don't like another person because of the color of skin, the clothes he wears, or the language he speaks is pure hatred, prejudice, ignorant, close-minded, or racist!

So what if kids walked out of school...even though they're not old enough to vote they can send a message!!!!! They do have parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, brothers, sisters, and relatives that affects them as well.

So because we live in this country...we gotta live like the average amerikan, by sippin' wine, dress in patriotic colors, not cook, become a couch patatoe, use meth, eat breakfast,lunch&dinner @ restaurants, speak english, read poetry, go to museums, eat the U.S. version of "pizza", celebrate every pointless holiday, eat bread& milk for dinner, say the U.S. pledge, put da U.S. flag outside my house, love football, and have a mentality of "if it ain't american it ain't right".......... we are human beings and each one of us deserves to live life as WE PLEASE!!!!Whether you came here illegally or not!!!

I ain't gonna hate on Muhamed because he owns a 7/11 and is doing better than me and came here to the u.s. with faulty papers......that's his life he can live it the way he wants as long as he ain't breaking the laws, supporting his family, and lives a positive life!!!

We "immigrants" come here to live a better life....we are not better than you. We live life to the fullest whether it's breaking my back cutting Mr. Johnson's lawn so i can feed the family, pay bills(taxes included), and send money down south so my parents can live a mere decent life.....the way my parents supported their parents.

"you guys take all our jobs" STOP BEING LAZY AND STOP EXPECTING A HIGH WAGE!!!! Minorities have a far better working ethics than the majority of americans. Some people won't work at fastfood because they "think" it's "good for them", or the wages suck(which they do) but it's money!! Instead you RELY on your parents to give you your allowance or co-sign for the new car(you don't deserve).

People die crossing that border everyday and the only reason they risk their lives is to better themselves and their families. But some of you don't care and have no heart(until you loose a loved one, you'll know what i'm talkin about).

America loves to hate....you even label the lower class of your own race as "trailer trash" or "white trash"......when they are no different from you just because they make a certain salary, way they dress, or where they live.

Some of you are so proud of your country that it's stupid. The Govt. takes your money....makes you pay taxes, trys to recruit men for the army, makes you pay those DMV fees, jack the prices on gas, medical care is the most expensive along with prescribed drugs,
some people never get to see their social security, pay sky-high insurance fees, screw the consumer in any way shape or form, screw you with interest rates, overcharge your car purchase, and put a U.S. Embassy in every country they can.

Fuck patriotism!!!! I LIVE MY OWN LIFE NOT THE COUNTRY'S!!!!!

THE BEST FUCKING POST IN THIS WHOLE THREAD!! COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!!

 

[COPIUM]

i dont fully buy all you that say you dont have a problem with immigrants, only ones that come and stay here illegally. since when is the law the ethical rule to follow. so you have a problem with ppl that speed, and smoke weed, and drink when theyre 20? i dont think so. and you guys make it sound like becoming a legal citizen is easy...that shit is not easy at all and takes years to do...ppl are starving and dont have time for that. so say the govt decided to make all these immigrants legal, you guys would now be happy and go "oh ok, now that theyre all legally here i dont have a problem with them. lets be real, its deeper for you than whats legal and what isnt.

but at the core all this really is, is the lifelong battle between the proletariats and the bourgeousie. and its sad that so many ppl allow ignorance and ethnocentrism hinder thier support for their fellow workers (the immigrants...and not just mexican immigrants...ppl come from other parts of the world too), and instead support the capitalist elites who are the real ones all of us should be concerened about. ppl let shit like taxes and medical insurance sway thier opinion on this matter, and go on to blame immigrants for these problems when its really ceos like the pharmaceudical ceos that are the real reason for you not having health insurance. also, the reason so many ppl are leaving countries, like say mexico, is cause their govt system is so fucked up and corrupt. and the usa aids and supports that corruption, so in a sense the usa does kinda owe it to those immigrants. if the usa is such a rightious spreader of democracy why not bomb and rebuild mexico? trust me, mexicans dont come to the usa cause they wanna be white or american, but cause theyre human beings and like every other human being, they want to eat. if they could do that in thier homeland, believe me theyd be more than happy to that there. not only do it think immigrants should be allowed to stay but they should get a drastic pay raise for working the fields. as should everyone that does working class labor. no matter where youre from, as long as you do the work.
it happens time and time again in history, but ppl continue to do it, and thats fight with our fellow brothers for the scraps that are kicked down to us. ppl either get frustrated with what they dont have and blame the ppl theyre told to blame for it, or they get comfortable and buy into the fear that certian ppl will take thier comfort from them. all the while the fat cats who are creating all this chaos laugh all the way to the bank while we destroy ouselves.

^^^

 

[MOREBASS]

Some of you act like were're suppose to speak english as soon as we cross that border. As if it's so EASY to learn and speak a 2nd language!!!!!

Its not that that bugs me...its the people that have been here for years and make NO EFFORT to learn...if I go to another country, I don't expect everyone there to cater to me because I'm unable to communicate. Theres no excuse for this IMO.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

Some of you are so proud of your country that it's stupid. The Govt. takes your money....makes you pay taxes, trys to recruit men for the army, makes you pay those DMV fees, jack the prices on gas, medical care is the most expensive along with prescribed drugs,
some people never get to see their social security, pay sky-high insurance fees, screw the consumer in any way shape or form, screw you with interest rates, overcharge your car purchase, and put a U.S. Embassy in every country they can.

How are you gonna write all that justifying people coming into this country illegally and then turn around and talk shit about that same country? If its so shitty why are all these people tripping about not being able to come here?

 

[DubbC415]

some of these folks were never born or raised in the U.S. and they have no clue,what so ever,of what life is outside the U.S. If you're a minority you'd appreciate what this country has to offer, i sure do. I was an illegal at one point, and it didn't make me less of a person. I just didn't have the legal documents, at the time, to let the GOVERNMENT know that i'm here in the U.S.
Some people say that we dont' pay taxes! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ANYBODY that works payes taxes from field workers, pavers, painters, lawn care, fast food, construction, medical, warehouse, automotive, and laborers in general. All those listed above^ and beyond pay their taxes....so to say we don't contribute to society is BULLSHIT!!!! It's the EMPLOYER's responsibility & decision to let the govt. know that he wants to pay taxes or not. I use to work for a company that paid me cash instead of being on payroll.....all that matttered at the time was getting paid so i could support myself, g/f and my bills!!!

Some of you act like were're suppose to speak english as soon as we cross that border. As if it's so EASY to learn and speak a 2nd language!!!!! The way you guys "type" is not "racist" but prejudice!!! You don't like another person because of the color of skin, the clothes he wears, or the language he speaks is pure hatred, prejudice, ignorant, close-minded, or racist!

So what if kids walked out of school...even though they're not old enough to vote they can send a message!!!!! They do have parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, brothers, sisters, and relatives that affects them as well.

So because we live in this country...we gotta live like the average amerikan, by sippin' wine, dress in patriotic colors, not cook, become a couch patatoe, use meth, eat breakfast,lunch&dinner @ restaurants, speak english, read poetry, go to museums, eat the U.S. version of "pizza", celebrate every pointless holiday, eat bread& milk for dinner, say the U.S. pledge, put da U.S. flag outside my house, love football, and have a mentality of "if it ain't american it ain't right".......... we are human beings and each one of us deserves to live life as WE PLEASE!!!!Whether you came here illegally or not!!!

I ain't gonna hate on Muhamed because he owns a 7/11 and is doing better than me and came here to the u.s. with faulty papers......that's his life he can live it the way he wants as long as he ain't breaking the laws, supporting his family, and lives a positive life!!!

We "immigrants" come here to live a better life....we are not better than you. We live life to the fullest whether it's breaking my back cutting Mr. Johnson's lawn so i can feed the family, pay bills(taxes included), and send money down south so my parents can live a mere decent life.....the way my parents supported their parents.

"you guys take all our jobs" STOP BEING LAZY AND STOP EXPECTING A HIGH WAGE!!!! Minorities have a far better working ethics than the majority of americans. Some people won't work at fastfood because they "think" it's "good for them", or the wages suck(which they do) but it's money!! Instead you RELY on your parents to give you your allowance or co-sign for the new car(you don't deserve).

People die crossing that border everyday and the only reason they risk their lives is to better themselves and their families. But some of you don't care and have no heart(until you loose a loved one, you'll know what i'm talkin about).

America loves to hate....you even label the lower class of your own race as "trailer trash" or "white trash"......when they are no different from you just because they make a certain salary, way they dress, or where they live.

Some of you are so proud of your country that it's stupid. The Govt. takes your money....makes you pay taxes, trys to recruit men for the army, makes you pay those DMV fees, jack the prices on gas, medical care is the most expensive along with prescribed drugs,
some people never get to see their social security, pay sky-high insurance fees, screw the consumer in any way shape or form, screw you with interest rates, overcharge your car purchase, and put a U.S. Embassy in every country they can.

Fuck patriotism!!!! I LIVE MY OWN LIFE NOT THE COUNTRY'S!!!!!

best post yet. wow.

 

[pAc0]

THE BEST FUCKING POST IN THIS WHOLE THREAD!! COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!!

thank you.....i took me a min. to type that shit up...had to think before i "typed". Alot of people in today's society have the "me me me me me" attitude and are pure selfish!!!! my father-in-law is a perfect example, but that's a whole diff. topic and subject!