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Time for McFadden show to be unveiled
David White, Chronicle Staff Writer

Thursday, October 16, 2008

Whatever McFadden does, it will be about time. The Raiders didn't pick him No. 4 overall in the draft to run inside the tackles all day.

"I know they're going to come in and have some more plays for me," McFadden said Wednesday after practicing without health limitations for the first time in a month. "I like going out there and getting the ball in my hands, make some plays."

McFadden should get that chance Sunday, when the Jets visit the Coliseum. His turf toe is recovered as well as can be, which means the Raiders will no longer limit what McFadden does on the field.

It could be the spark needed for an offense that has struggled since McFadden got hurt rushing for 164 yards against the Chiefs in Week 2.

With McFadden hobbled, interim coach Tom Cable estimated there was half a playbook sitting on the shelf. With McFadden back, the exotic flavor should finally take shape.

"That was kind of the plan," Cable said. "That's what we worked on in camp. It has tied our hands a little bit but it's nice to be getting him healthy so we can continue to get back on track that way."

So far, the Raiders have dabbled with the "Wildcat" formation - where McFadden lines up as quarterback in shotgun formation, with a running back to his side and quarterback JaMarcus Russell split wide.

McFadden ran the play at Arkansas to spectacular effect. With the Raiders, it has been more of an option run where he kept the ball or handed it off in a misdirection attempt.

More NFL teams have tinkered with "Wildcat" plays this season, particularly the Dolphins. And yes, McFadden did get a little jealous to watch Ronnie Brown run his play.

"I know where it was started," said McFadden, who threw seven touchdown passes in college. "It's something you look at; you wish you were healthy, so you can go out there and do the same thing."

McFadden will also spend more time lining up like a wide receiver, whether in the slot or on the far sideline. He's done it several times with the Raiders but without a throw going his way.

He has the hands to make the catch, the agility to make a move and the speed to get away from defenders. Or, so he did in college.

"The more he can do, the better it'd be for our team," said Russell, who hasn't caught a pass since middle school. "Anything we can do to help put the ball in his hands. ... I think he's a scary sight for other guys."

Russell certainly can use the help. The wide receivers have been little help to the offense in a 1-4 start. Yards after the catch are scarce.

If there's to be pass-game balance to the run-heavy offense, it might take a running back like McFadden to do it. Now that he's well again, it's time to see if defenses can stop him.

"It'll make it a whole lot tougher," McFadden said. "You're not just going to be singled out coming out of the backfield. Now you're out on the edge and things, so now they really have to look around."
 

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Whatever McFadden does, it will be about time. The Raiders didn't pick him No. 4 overall in the draft to run inside the tackles all day.

McFadden will also spend more time lining up like a wide receiver, whether in the slot or on the far sideline. He's done it several times with the Raiders but without a throw going his way.
Now that's what I am talking about... we got talent we gotta use it.
 
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Eugene will challenge Huff
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits from Wednesday’s interview sessions and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:

– A second consecutive poor game from free safety Michael Huff has put his status as an unquestioned starter in peril five games into the season.

“We’re going to create some competition for Michael and give Hiram Eugene an opportunity to go out and press him a little bit, and see if we can’t bring the best out of either one of those guys,” Cable said.

Eugene started five games in place of a struggling Stuart Schweigert at free safety last season while Huff was the strong safety. He had some of the same problems Schweigert did in terms of open-field tackling.

`The main thing is that we’re going to try to do a little competition thing as far as the free safety thing,” Eugene said. “Just kind of shake things up a little bit and see how it works. I’m just grateful for the opportunity for whatever they decide to go, as far as if I start, the playing time, it doesn’t even matter.

“I’m going to prepare like I prepare every week, like I’m going to play anyway, or start. I’m pretty sure that Mike is going to do the same.”

Eugene said he learned from his five-game trial run last season.

“Well, my main thing was angling, taking the angles on the tackles and bringing the guy down in the open field,” Eugene said. “That’s what I tried to improve on the most because I know that was my (weakness).”

Huff has started all 37 games since being the No. 7 overall pick of the 2006 draft out of Texas in 2006. He has one interception and one forced fumble. Huff was as invisible in the locker room Wednesday as he has been on the field of late.

– Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha can’t count on one hand the number of passes headed his way this season.

But he can do it with one hand and one additional finger.

Asomugha recounted one pass thrown at him in each game, with the exception of the Chiefs game, when there was two. Every week he talks himself into believing it will be the game where teams will come after him, and every week he’s wrong.

He writes all of it down in a spiral bound notebook he showed to reporters Wednesday.

“Don’t get lazy because they’re not throwing at you,” Asomugha wrote in his book, followed by reminders of what can happen if he happens to let his guard down for even a single play.

The Raiders have begun putting in Asomugha at safety in certain formations, as they used to do with Charles Woodson, hoping to get him some opportunities at interceptions. Asomugha had his breakout year with eight interceptions in 2006 and saw only 35 passes his way all last season, picking off one.

“Nam is a special guy,” Cable said. “He accepts that that’s the way it’s going to be but the minute people talk it up too much, all of a sudden someone says, ‘We’ll take that challenge. We’ll come after you.’ At some point it’s going to happen so you want to make sure he stays alert and stays focused on what he’s doing.”

Jets coach Eric Mangini said the low total of passes headed Asomugha’s way is a sign of respect, and that the reasons for leaving him alone are twofold _ one, because Asomugha is that good; and two, when quarterbacks do look his way, the receiver is usually covered and they go somewher else.

– No boot, no limits for running back Darren McFadden. His role Sunday against the Jets should be more like the Raiders envisioned in training camp.

“That was kind of the plan. That’s what we worked on in OTA, that’s what we worked on in fall camp so you want to continue to progress with that,” Cable said. “It has tied our hands a little bit but it’s nice to be getting him healthy so we can continue to get back on track that way.”

The Miami Dolphins, in particular, have had success using running back Ronnie Brown in the “Wildcat” formation as a shotgun quarterback who runs the option. The quarterbacks coach at Miami is David Lee, who installed it at Arkansas last year as the offensive coordinator for McFadden.

“When I was looking at it, I know where it was started, so it’s something you look at, you wish you were healthy so you can go out there and do the same thing,” McFadden said.

– Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell has avoided opportunities to run the ball but said he may be more daring in future games.

“If I time comes for me to run, I will,” Russell said. “Some of the times late in the game, I was trying to make a pass on the run. If it’s that time where I”ve got to keep the chains moving by myself while running, then I will.”

– Jets quarterback Brett Favre owned the Raiders as a member of the Green Bay Packers, with a 4-0 record a 61.7 completion percentage (79-for-128) for 1,188 yards, 11 touchdowns and four interceptions.

His last game in Oakland was the night after his father died suddenly in 2003, and he passes for 311 yards in the first half alone en route to a 22-for-30, 399-yard, 4-touchdown performance in a 41-7 win. When the Packers crushed the Raiders last year, Favre was 15-for-23 for 266 yards, two touchdowns and no picks.

Still, there’s the other side of Favre _ the one who occasionally delivers the turnover _ that the Raiders would love to see.

“He pulls it out of his hat but he also gives you a chance to make plays,” cornerback DeAngelo Hall said. “Brett’s the kind of guy, he’s got nothing to lose. He’s not playing for Pro Bowls, he’s not playing for money, he’s just out there having fun and those are the scariest guys. He can go out there any time, throw a pick to the house or throw a 60-yard bomb so he’s a guy we definitely got to keep contained.”

– Fullback Oren O’Neal was in the locker room on crutches and said his rehab is coming along fine. He said he was surprised to read Lane Kiffin’s comments after the surgery that it was a career-threatening injury.

“I talked to (team Doctor) King and didn’t say anything like that,” O’Neal said.

O’Neal said he hopes to be ready by training camp.

– Running back Justin Fargas was on board with the idea of Tim Brown joining the front office. Brown floated the idea Tuesday on Sacramento radio station KTHL (1140-AM).

“A guy like Tim Brown, with his experience, not just as a football player, but as a Raider and a member of this organization, that would be very valuable to us as players. His knowledge as a player and how things work here, I’m sure it would help.

“I don’t think we’re too far off. It’s just a matter of coming together as a team and getting things done on the field. There are a lot of distractions and different things around here but, overall, as a team, we do a good job of trying to focus on what we can control, focus on our work, because there are so many things that go around, after awhile you kind get numb to it, so you just have to focus on your work. I’m biased. I’d love to see Tim Brown around here a little bit more, interacting with us, because of the type of player he was and the type of person he is.”

– Defensive end Derrick Burgess (strained triceps) was the lone player who did not practice. Cable said Burgess is showing progress in his rehab and said the Raiders would know in a day or two if Sunday was a possibility.

Asomugha (elbow) and linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) were limited, but Cable said both should play. Guard Robert Gallery and tight end Zach Miller were limited with what Cable called “bruises” but netiher was on the official injury report submitted to the NFL.
 
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Yeah, bring him in. He has the right attitude too... LMFAO at what he said about Gannon.
The best part about what he said about Rich Gannon was the fact that he didn't DISPUTE any of what he said; just that it wasn't ''right'' for him to say it. So what if he wasn't liked? He was the best QB (and only PRODUCTIVE QB) we've had in 20 years, at least. He wasn't a ''Yes Man", that you seem to covet so much, but he got the job done.
 

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The best part about what he said about Rich Gannon was the fact that he didn't DISPUTE any of what he said; just that it wasn't ''right'' for him to say it. So what if he wasn't liked? He was the best QB (and only PRODUCTIVE QB) we've had in 20 years, at least. He wasn't a ''Yes Man", that you seem to covet so much, but he got the job done.
Screw Rich Gannon, if he was so productive then why did he turn in the poorest performance from a qb in the SuperBowl known to man? 5 Int's and 3 returned for TD's! Looks like he didn't get the job done when it really counted... Don't give him too much credit... he did have Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Charlie Garner to throw to.... and he had a good coach. He was nothing more than a product of the system... he choked everytime he faced a good defense that brought heat (Ravens, Bucs).

And Gannon was far from a "team" player... you don't remember him yelling at coaches and teammates on the sidelines like he was somebody's daddy? Tim Brown spoke the truth about him... they wanted to whoop his ass for a reason.

And what "Yes Men" do I like to covet since you know so much?
 
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Screw Rich Gannon
AGREED. I LOVE RICH GANNON FOR WHAT HE DID FOR US FROM 99-2002 BUT HE IS A DISLOYAL PIECE OF SHIT FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT AL DAVIS. AL DAVIS BELIEVED IN HIM WHEN HE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP, AND GAVE HIM A SHOT AT BECOMING A GREAT NFL QB, WHICH HE DID.

I WON'T SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WAS TRASH OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD GAME IN THE SUPERBOWL AGAINST HIS FORMER COACH WHO KNEW ALL HIS PLAYS. HE WAS A DOPE ASS QB WHO WON MVP AND WENT TO 4 STRAIGHT PRO-BOWLS.

STILL IN ALL, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM SPEAKIN ON AL LIKE HE DID. AL GAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THANKING AND COMMENDING GANNON WENT HE RETIRED.

FUCK RICH GANNON.
 
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Ineffective Huff is sent to bench

By Steve Corkran
Article Launched: 10/16/2008 05:26:54 PM PDT



ALAMEDA — Michael Huff's run as the Raiders' starting free safety is over after only five games. He's been replaced by third-year player Hiram Eugene.

Raiders coach Tom Cable said he wants intensity from his defensive players. Huff hasn't delivered in that department, and he also has struggled in pass coverage and open-field tackling.

"Hiram's starting because I haven't produced the way I should have these first four or five games," Huff said without mincing words. "So, as of right now, he's starting."

Huff said he likely will play in certain situations but that Eugene will make his first start this season.

This rates as a precipitous fall for a player the Raiders selected at No. 7 in the 2006 NFL draft. Huff played his first two NFL seasons at strong safety.

"I'm definitely surprised," Huff said. "I thought going out there I'd play well at free safety. This is the hardest I've worked this past offseason. Things just didn't go my way so it was time to make a move. I definitely understand it."

Eugene signed as an undrafted free agent in 2005, spent all, or most, of his first two seasons on the practice squad and started only five games last season.

Cable said he's hopeful Eugene will energize the defense.

"The thing about Eugene that impresses me is I've seen him throw his body around in there," Cable said. "I've seen him get out of center field and get to the sideline with some range."


Sunday's home game against the New York Jets is sold out and will be televised locally, the Raiders announced. This marks the third straight home game this season that sold out in advance of the league-mandated 72-hour deadline before kickoff.

Did you know?

Former Raiders draftees Eric Barton and Kenyon Coleman start for the Jets. Barton is an inside linebacker. Coleman is the team's right defensive end. Barton was the first of Oakland's two fifth-round selections in the 1999 draft. He signed with the Jets in 2004. Coleman was Oakland's fifth-round selection in 2002. He was released after one season.

Extra points

Cable said rookie wide receiver Chaz Schilens will receive significant playing time Sunday. He has only three catches for 38 yards in the first five games. Other potential changes in the receiving corps are being evaluated, Cable added. "... Defensive end Derrick Burgess (triceps) missed practice again. He is questionable for Sunday's game. Backup tight end Ben Troupe (foot) also missed practice. "... Rookie running back Darren McFadden said the pain from his turf-toe injury has subsided somewhat. Therefore, he expects more action Sunday than he received in Oakland's past three games. "I know they're going to come in and have some more plays for me, like spread me out wide and some of the things that they didn't do when I was hurt," McFadden said. He rushed eight times and had two passes thrown his way last Sunday against the New Orleans Saints.

— Steve Corkran
 

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AGREED. I LOVE RICH GANNON FOR WHAT HE DID FOR US FROM 99-2002 BUT HE IS A DISLOYAL PIECE OF SHIT FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT AL DAVIS. AL DAVIS BELIEVED IN HIM WHEN HE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP, AND GAVE HIM A SHOT AT BECOMING A GREAT NFL QB, WHICH HE DID.

I WON'T SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WAS TRASH OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD GAME IN THE SUPERBOWL AGAINST HIS FORMER COACH WHO KNEW ALL HIS PLAYS. HE WAS A DOPE ASS QB WHO WON MVP AND WENT TO 4 STRAIGHT PRO-BOWLS.

STILL IN ALL, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM SPEAKIN ON AL LIKE HE DID. AL GAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THANKING AND COMMENDING GANNON WENT HE RETIRED.

FUCK RICH GANNON.
4-sho... I hear you dog, I got mad because I lost money on that Superbowl and I put the blame on Gannon. I remember John Lynch saying that they knew all of their audibles but I didn't give Gannon a pass because he should have just taken sacks in that game instead of just throwing it up like he was doing. The Raiders were in it until this mf started throwing picks and getting them returned. He scored 21 points for Tampa Bay. But since he went to 4 straight pro-bowls I'll leave him alone.

I lost respect for him when he was yelling, spitting in his teammates faces, with veins sticking out of his neck though... but that was pretty disrespectful of him to talk bad about an organization/Al that gave him the opportunity to become a starting qb in the NFL. He was a scrub backup qb in K.C.
 

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AGREED. I LOVE RICH GANNON FOR WHAT HE DID FOR US FROM 99-2002 BUT HE IS A DISLOYAL PIECE OF SHIT FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT AL DAVIS. AL DAVIS BELIEVED IN HIM WHEN HE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP, AND GAVE HIM A SHOT AT BECOMING A GREAT NFL QB, WHICH HE DID.

I WON'T SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WAS TRASH OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD GAME IN THE SUPERBOWL AGAINST HIS FORMER COACH WHO KNEW ALL HIS PLAYS. HE WAS A DOPE ASS QB WHO WON MVP AND WENT TO 4 STRAIGHT PRO-BOWLS.

STILL IN ALL, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM SPEAKIN ON AL LIKE HE DID. AL GAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THANKING AND COMMENDING GANNON WENT HE RETIRED.

FUCK RICH GANNON.
I REMEMBER THAT. GANNON WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP IN KC, WHO GOT NO LOVE DESPITE SOME GOOD PERFORMANCES.
THE RAIDERS WERE THE ONLY TEAM WHO BELEIVED IN HIM, WHICH DID PAY OFF.
I DONT MIND HIM VOICING HIS OPINIONS BUT IF IT WASNT FOR THE RAIDERS HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRO BOWLER.
HE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN A LIL MORE RESPECT. I THINK HE WAS JUST SOUR ABOUT HOW GRUDEN GOT SHIPPED TO TAMPA AND HOW HE GOT RAPED IN THE SUPER BOWL BY HIS FORMER COACH.
 
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I REMEMBER THAT. GANNON WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP IN KC, WHO GOT NO LOVE DESPITE SOME GOOD PERFORMANCES.
THE RAIDERS WERE THE ONLY TEAM WHO BELEIVED IN HIM, WHICH DID PAY OFF.
I DONT MIND HIM VOICING HIS OPINIONS BUT IF IT WASNT FOR THE RAIDERS HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRO BOWLER.
HE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN A LIL MORE RESPECT. I THINK HE WAS JUST SOUR ABOUT HOW GRUDEN GOT SHIPPED TO TAMPA AND HOW HE GOT RAPED IN THE SUPER BOWL BY HIS FORMER COACH.
c/s.. show sum loyalty..i always thought he was a starter caliber since i seen him kick our ass in 95 wit kc.. he was a product of the system as u can tell in the sb....
 

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Agreed^^^^ he should at least show a lil loyalty or don't say anything at all if you don't have anything good to say. I could see Marcus Allen having something to say about Al Davis!
 
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Screw Rich Gannon, if he was so productive then why did he turn in the poorest performance from a qb in the SuperBowl known to man? 5 Int's and 3 returned for TD's! Looks like he didn't get the job done when it really counted... Don't give him too much credit... he did have Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Charlie Garner to throw to.... and he had a good coach. He was nothing more than a product of the system... he choked everytime he faced a good defense that brought heat (Ravens, Bucs).

And Gannon was far from a "team" player... you don't remember him yelling at coaches and teammates on the sidelines like he was somebody's daddy? Tim Brown spoke the truth about him... they wanted to whoop his ass for a reason.

And what "Yes Men" do I like to covet since you know so much?

He may have turned in a poor performance in the SB, but he was one of the MAIN reasons they were there. You weren't even a fan then; don't act like you know anything about that season. Get off of google, Tony. That game was a pathetic effort by the entire TEAM, along with the coaches. Gruden beat our asses and made the team look like bitches. And about those TD's returned for TD's...where was the rest of the team to stop that? Where was Tim Brown? Jerry Rice? Charlie Garner? You can put blame on Gannon; he deserved it, but it was a TEAM effort to lose so bad.


How did he ''choke'' against good D's? Was he the only player on the field? He put up GREAT numbers; better than your Aaron Brooks. Talk about choking...

I salute him yelling at players on the sideline; he's the QB, he needs to be the leader and express himself. If he's timid and quiet, he's no good as a leader on the team. You heard ONE MAN'S take on his relationship with Gannon, and now, like always, it's gospel to you. Where was your hate for Gannon before? You never said anything negative about him, but suddenly, when someone else says it, you jump on the bandwagon and have a free fuck at him. (What's new?)

And finally, to the ''yes men''...Tom Cable. You don't even have cable, yet suddenly when Al promotes him, he's the key to success. Bullshit. How about Rob Ryan. You would have married him 5 weeks ago, when he was saying all the right things. Suddenly, Kiffen's gone, and now you have to find another scapegoat. You should get a job as Al's personal custodian; you could wipe his ass without having to be asked. Priceless...which is perfect, because he'd stiff you out of a paycheck, too.
 
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AGREED. I LOVE RICH GANNON FOR WHAT HE DID FOR US FROM 99-2002 BUT HE IS A DISLOYAL PIECE OF SHIT FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT AL DAVIS. AL DAVIS BELIEVED IN HIM WHEN HE WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A BACKUP, AND GAVE HIM A SHOT AT BECOMING A GREAT NFL QB, WHICH HE DID.

I WON'T SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE WAS TRASH OR SOMETHING BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD GAME IN THE SUPERBOWL AGAINST HIS FORMER COACH WHO KNEW ALL HIS PLAYS. HE WAS A DOPE ASS QB WHO WON MVP AND WENT TO 4 STRAIGHT PRO-BOWLS.

STILL IN ALL, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM SPEAKIN ON AL LIKE HE DID. AL GAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THANKING AND COMMENDING GANNON WENT HE RETIRED.

FUCK RICH GANNON.
Let's say your stepfather, who gave you a roof over your head, clothes on your back, food in your stomach, etc...decides, after 2 or so years (like Gannon had), to fuck you in the ass.

Would you stand for it, because he took care of you?

Same principal, different circumstances.
 
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I'd rather have someone speak the truth than hide their thoughts and feelings and tuck their tail. If former PLAYERS are speaking about how bad it is in Oakland, that should tell you something. So what if someone was given a ''chance'' by Al? It's not like Gannon or Sapp or whoever went in there, collected a check, and sat the bench. These guys went out there and put their health on the line and played their asses off.

I'd rather they weren't YES MEN and let people know what really happens.
 

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I'd rather have someone speak the truth than hide their thoughts and feelings and tuck their tail. If former PLAYERS are speaking about how bad it is in Oakland, that should tell you something. So what if someone was given a ''chance'' by Al? It's not like Gannon or Sapp or whoever went in there, collected a check, and sat the bench. These guys went out there and put their health on the line and played their asses off.

I'd rather they weren't YES MEN and let people know what really happens.
agreed

they're just speakin the truth... you can't be mad at that