OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2008 SEASON THREAD

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Yes, you can, obviously. People mistake doing something out of kindness, and goodness of the heart, as giving someone an opportunity, and giving someone a ''chance''...which, yes, deserves a certain amount of due respect and loyalty.

Al Davis didn't sign Rich Gannon because he felt sorry for him, and wanted to give him an opportunity to succeed; he signed him for his own benefit, because he wanted him to WIN for HIM. That's fine; that's what owners/GM's do. But Rich Gannon doesn't owe him shit; he signed a contract and fulfilled his obligations to the best of his ability. Maybe if things WERE semi-decent in Oakland, he wouldn't have spoken about them, but I don't knock him for speaking the truth.
 
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Let's say your stepfather, who gave you a roof over your head, clothes on your back, food in your stomach, etc...decides, after 2 or so years (like Gannon had), to fuck you in the ass.

Would you stand for it, because he took care of you?

Same principal, different circumstances.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT DID AL EVER DO TO GANNON? YOU FAILED MISERABLY HERE AT MAKING ANY KIND OF POINT.

THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT RICH GANNON DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE RAIDERS AND AL DAVIS AND HE IS MAKING THAT CLEAR THE WAY HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT AS A MEDIA GUY NOW.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT PROBLEMS AN ORGANIZATION HAS AND FLAT OUT TRASHING YOUR FORMER OWNER WHO NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT BELIEVE IN, SUPPORT AND COMMEND YOU.

FUCK RICH GANNON. HE IS A FAGGOT BITCH WHO PROBABLY GOT RAILED IN THE ASS BY CARL PETERSON.
 
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT DID AL EVER DO TO GANNON? YOU FAILED MISERABLY HERE AT MAKING ANY KIND OF POINT.

THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT RICH GANNON DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE RAIDERS AND AL DAVIS AND HE IS MAKING THAT CLEAR THE WAY HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT AS A MEDIA GUY NOW.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT PROBLEMS AN ORGANIZATION HAS AND FLAT OUT TRASHING YOUR FORMER OWNER WHO NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT BELIEVE IN, SUPPORT AND COMMEND YOU.

FUCK RICH GANNON. HE IS A FAGGOT BITCH WHO PROBABLY GOT RAILED IN THE ASS BY CARL PETERSON.
My point is this ''LOYALTY" he MUST show for AL DAVIS, of all people, is retarded. What did Gannon ever do to Al? What personal beefs did they have? Gannon was speaking on his experiences, and his opinions on the situations there inside the organization. So what? You expect him to be silent and say that everything was perfectly wonderful? WOULD YOU?
 
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What part of this do you have a problem with?

"And they have problems, there's no question. It's an organization that is going through a very difficult period. It's an organization, in my opinion, that is dysfunctional. They have a lot of issues."

"This guy, Tom Cable, the poor guy, does that he think he is more equipped and better prepared than his predecessors? In other words, if Gruden couldn't make it there and Bill Callahan couldn't make it there and then if Norv Turner couldn't make it there and then Art Shell couldn't make it there and then Lane Kiffin couldn't make it there, why does he think, all of a sudden, he's going to make it there? I don't understand."

“This is not something that I haven’t discussed publicly and privately before with the owner. I’ve talked to Mr. Davis at great length about our philosophical difference of opinion. I believe that you need to have discipline, structure, a system in place, organization. He is a guy that is not a big believer in having too many rules and that’s one of the reasons why that team, in my opinion, hasn’t had any real leadership and hasn’t had any real direction.”

“I always said it’s not a tough place to work, it’s an impossible place to work,” Gannon said. “I left there on a high note. I went to four straight Pro Bowls, was league MVP. I don’t have any bad feelings about the place. I just know how difficult it was for me and I just look at the people that have left. Mike Shanahan leaves and wins two Super Bowls. Jon Gruden leaves and wins a Super Bowl. Norv Turner is having success in San Diego. To let people like that leave, particularly a guy like Jon Gruden who really worked and really threw every ounce of energy he had into the place. To let him leave the way he did was just a mistake.

“And what happened is, in my opinion, people say, ‘Why have they had the big fall-off since the Super Bowl and stuff?’ I think that it’s about six people who have left the organization that really were the heart and soul of the whole group and really kept it going. Guys like Jon Gruden, Bruce Allen, the general manager, Bill Callahan, who was our offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. You lost quality people and some players and they’ve never been able to recover.”
 
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My point is this ''LOYALTY" he MUST show for AL DAVIS, of all people, is retarded. What did Gannon ever do to Al? What personal beefs did they have? Gannon was speaking on his experiences, and his opinions on the situations there inside the organization. So what? You expect him to be silent and say that everything was perfectly wonderful? WOULD YOU?

GO BACK AND RE-READ MY POST. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AN ORGANIZATION HAS AND FLAT OUT TRASHING YOUR FORMER OWNER AND FRIEND.

DUDE IS A PIECE OF SHIT. PERIOD.
 
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Gannon is no piece of shit he got paid to do a job. And he did that job well does that mean he owes Al Davis something I think not. Shit I get paid to do a job but if somebody asked me what I think of the company I work for I would say they are a bunch of cheap penny pinching bastards that dont care about anything but the bottom line but I still work there. So when Gannon speaks out about what he thinks and what he went through in his time as a raider I feel he should speak the truth without holding back his thoughts cuz he doesnt owe anybody nothing. Dude was a solid QB and if not in oakland im sure he would have done fine somewhere else guy played with heart maybe he would not of went to the four straight pro bowl but he would have been fine. I liked him then and just because he talk shit about Al Davis and the organization I'm not going to change my mind about him he speak a lot of truth even if you dont want to hear it doesnt make it not true. Shit I feel al davis is an out of tough piece of shit that needs to pass the torch and retire. And the organization doesn't know its asshole for its elbow right now but I support the team not the owner or his yes men. I mean shit I hate when all the sports hosts, commentators, sports writers talk nothing but shit about the raiders but fuck Davis makes it so easy with the retarded shit he has done is still doing. Like when they asked cable about bush being shopped to the chargers and he said he didnt know anything about that but shouldnt he being the head coach and all? Al Davis couldnt make it more clear he not only owns the team but he still calling all the shots but just puts blame on others when the players, draft picks, trades, and coachs that he hires and drafts dont work out.
 
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Schilens to start for Curry
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Rookie seventh-round draft pick Chaz Schilens will make his starting debut Sunday against the New York Jets at the expense of the Raiders’ leading receiver over the past two seasons.

Schilens, coach Tom Cable said, would start in place of Ronald Curry, who caught 117 passes the last two seasons but has been plagued by drops and inconsistency for all but about the first two weeks of training camp.

Javon Walker will continue to be the starter at split end.

“I’m excited. It’s like a dream,” Schilens said quietly, a smile splitting his face following practice. “I couldn’t tell you how excited I am.”

When told he didn’t sound that excited, Schilens said, “Trust me. Come Sunday, I’ll barely be able to contain myself. It’s a great opportunity.”

Schilens has three receptions for 38 yards through five games with no drops. At 6-foot-4, 225 pounds, he makes for an angular target for quarterback JaMarcus Russell, and he has shown no fear at making difficult catches in traffic over the middle.

When asked what attribute Schilens has he likes, Cable said, “I think his competitiveness for the football when it’s in the air. You look at a couple of the plays he’s made, some tough catches, having to get it in traffic, or having to get a high ball up in the air. Something that maybe wasn’t quite on target, he’s been able to go get those things out of the air, and the fact that he’s really starting to develop. And it shows every day at practice.”

Schilens never caught more than 35 passes in a season at San Diego State, and missed four games as a senior with a stress fracture in his foot. Given his status as a seventh-round pick, Schilens’ main goal was simply to wear a Raiders uniform this year.

“It’s been a long way for me. It’s something I wasn’t expecting,” Schilens said. “My goals were to come in and do good and to play and do well. It’s just unexpected but they’re giving me a shot so I’ve to do what I’ve got to do.”

Schilens believes having to struggle may have paid off in the long run.

“It was a fight for me but I kind of use it as motivation becausae felt like a lot of people had written me off and everyday that I trained and worked out since I came here I kind of had a chip on my shoulder to myself because I felt like a lot of people passed up on me, a lot of other teams,” Schilens said. “So when I go out there I feel like I’m trying to prove something.”

Schilens said he was told early in the week by receivers coach James Lofton he would be playing more, and was gradually eased into the starting position.

On a fourth down play against New Orleans, Schilens broke into the clear for what would have been a 36-yard touchdown pass, only to have Russell overthrow his first NFL touchdown.

“I was watching it in the air and was like ‘no, no, no.’ I tried to get to but couldn’t quite catch up to it,” Schilens said. “Hopefully we can get one of those this week. That would be great.”

Cable said receivers would be left in for more snaps at a time than in previous games this season.

“After doing what we did last week, after you sit down and analyze everything, it’s like, OK, maybe we’re not doing too much, maybe it’s how we’re doing it, so that can be cleaned up a little bit,” Cable said. “That’s the reason for this.”

Schilens joins running back Darren McFadden as the second rookie to start a game this season.

In other news, defensive end Derrick Burgess (triceps) and tight end Ben Troupe (foot) did not practice and were listed as doubtful. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (elbow) and linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) pracitced without limitations and were listed as probable.

Although listed as doubtful, Burgess sounded closer to being “out” as far as Cable is concerned.

“I really felt he needed to work some today and we weren’t able to do that,” Cable said.
 
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I'd rather have someone speak the truth than hide their thoughts and feelings and tuck their tail. If former PLAYERS are speaking about how bad it is in Oakland, that should tell you something. So what if someone was given a ''chance'' by Al? It's not like Gannon or Sapp or whoever went in there, collected a check, and sat the bench. These guys went out there and put their health on the line and played their asses off.

I'd rather they weren't YES MEN and let people know what really happens.
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Postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 8:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and observations from the Raiders’ 16-13 overtime win against the New York Jets Sunday at the Coliseum:

– Coach Tom Cable gave out game balls to quarterback JaMarcus Russell and place kicker Sebastian Janikowski but plans on handing more out Monday.

Russell outplayed Brett Favre and was 17-for-30 for 203 yards, a touchdown and no interceptions. Favre was 21 of 38 for 197 yards and interceptions by Gibril Wilson (at the goal line) and DeAngelo Hall.

“Oh, man, he’s a legend. Before the game, the coin toss, you go out there and try not to put it on your mind that you’re playing against one of the best quarterbacks who ever played the game, Russell said. “I’m trying to get to that level. It was a lot of fun just to see him go out there and play the game.”

– Still more work to do for Russell and Co. on third down _ the Raiders were 4-for-17 on third down conversions.

Janikowski’s club-record 57-yard field goal won the game. He was so confident the kick was true he didn’t even watch it go through the uprights.

“As soon as I hit it, I started celebrating because I knew I hit it good,” Janikowski said. “So I didn’t see it go in.”

It came with none other than 1970 miracle man George Blanda in attendance.

Blanda was introduced along with Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett before the game. The three were on hand for Gene Upshaw’s memorial service.

– Take Javon Walker’s face off the milk carton. With five receptions for 75 yards, including an 8-yard touchdown reception on a third-and-goal play from the 8-yard line, he is no longer a missing person. It was Walker’s first touchdown since Dec. 24, 2006 against the Cincinnati Bengals _ a span of 14 games.

“It feels good. It feels real good. Now it just become addictive,” Walker said.“I feel like I can’t stay out once going in, you know last year was a setback with injuries and whatnot, but once you get me started, it’s something that probably won’t stop.”

– Tough going for the Raiders running game, as Justin Fargas needed 28 carries to gain 74 yards. Darren McFadden had 39 yards on eight carries and also caught three passes for 50 yards. Michael Bush never got in the game.

“I think just the flow of the game. You know, those two guys out there really did a nice job. And that defense, they’re like third in the league in rush defense, really good. And so they really tested us,” Cable said. “They had a lot of guys down in that box, and that nose guard is a good player, and those ends are good players, so let’s just grind it out and try to out-tough ‘em.”

– The Raiders finished with 38 carries for 153 yards, but 40 of those yards were pure deception on two carries _ an 18-yard reverse with Johnnie Lee Higgins and Jon Alston’s 22-yard burst on fourth-and-2 as the personal protector in a punting situation.

The only other fake in recent memory came last year, when Shane Lechler was dumped for a 4-yard loss when he thought a fake was on when protector Stuart Schweigert had actually called it off.

Alston’s run led to the 37-yard field goal by Janikowski which gave the Raiders the lead. The Raiders have been working on the play for more than two weeks during special teams practice and Cable thought the timing was right with the score 10-10 and momentum slipping away.

“Luke Lawton did a great job on the edge and Jon had great ball security and got more than we needed,” Cable said. “I thought it was a really pivotal point in the game because it really juiced us back up, really put some life back in us. We were kind of teetering in that gray area you don’t want to be in.”

The thought of a fake never entered Fargas’ mind.

“My back was turned to the play, and I couldn’t believe it,” Fargas said. “I didn’t know what happened. I’m just glad we were getting the ball back.”

– Cable on the ill-timed time out which enabled Jay Feely to convert a 52-yard field goal after having his first attempt hit the upright: “But what do you do? I called it so you have to live with it.”

– Some conservative series’ late in the game had the crowd booing, and Cable did not disagree.

“Maybe we got a little conservative and that’s my fault on offense,” Cable said. “The last series I just said, look, let’s be balanced, let’s go back and throw it and run it and mix it up. We did that and JaMarcus was fabulous and guys caught the fooball for him. Greg (Knapp) did a great job calling the last segment.”

Left unsaid was whether Cable first urged Knapp to go conservative, or if Knapp went conservative and then Cable told him to be a little more bold in terms of play-calling.

– Rookie defensive end Trevor Scott was part of an Oakland defensive front that kept Favre out of his comfort zone most of the game, recording his first two career sacks. Oakland’s third sack went to Tommy Kelly.

“Going into this game, I was thinking to myself this whole week, how would cool to be if the first sack I ever got was on Brett Favre?,” Scott said. “A legend. I can’t even describe the feeling I’ve got right now. It’s pretty indescribable.”

– Much ado about very little . . . the Jets played so many snaps with an empty backfield the Raiders spent most of the game in dime defense, meaning Michael Huff played more snaps than Hiram Eugene. Meanwhile, Chaz Schilens elevated to a starter’s status of Ronald Curry, caught two passes for 10 yards.

Huff dropped an easy pass interception thrown directly into his hands by Favre on a third-and-4 play which could have put the Raiders in instant field goal position with 8:02 remaining.

– Defensive tackle Gerard Warren was limping heavily with his right ankle taped in the locker room following the game.
 

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Redrum you should be ashamed to call yourself a fan you fagg. You always moan and groan about shit like a lil bitch and then every time someone talks shit about your team you jump on their dicks like a faggit when you should take offense and stand up for you team. And you claim you've been a fan for how long? Yeah right...Oh yeah how did Russell and Javon Walker look out there today? Fuck you, Gannon, Sapp, and Kiffin. Go join the Raider bashing bandwagon you fuckin hoecake!
 
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Redrum you should be ashamed to call yourself a fan you fagg. You always moan and groan about shit like a lil bitch and then every time someone talks shit about your team you jump on their dicks like a faggit when you should take offense and stand up for you team. And you claim you've been a fan for how long? Yeah right...Oh yeah how did Russell and Javon Walker look out there today? Fuck you, Gannon, Sapp, and Kiffin. Go join the Raider bashing bandwagon you fuckin hoecake!
Go play Madden, you faggot ass bitch.

Just because I don't ride Al's dick like he can do no wrong, put faith in Aaron Brooks, claim Javon Walker can win us a SB ring, blame Raiders losses/mistakes/holes in the ozone layer on Lane Kiffen, pretend like because you won the SB on Madden using "easy mode" that means we're going to win it this year, because, of course, Madden is like a crystal ball...

MY team gets a hard fought win with a lot of question marks and room for improvement yesterday, and you think suddenly you've proven anyone wrong? You're still an Aaron Brooks loving, video game fucking, half retard bitch who's laughed at on here almost as much as Deebo (you ediot), and that's only because he's not on more regularly. I don't give a fuck about your faggot ass stats on Madden, bitch; stick your controller up your ass sideways.

I'm realistic...you know, like in the REAL WORLD. You're stuck in fantasy land playing video games like there's nothing else in life, you fucking chump. You've googled a few stats from before the '04 season, and now you're the super fan who knows it all and cannot fathom that anything could be wrong in the organization.

Stick to playing with your controller, you bitch ass faggot, and maybe you and Javon can meet up with Aaron at Costco when he gets off work tonight and celebrate Javon's 5 catches, and his improved rating on Madden.


YOU BITCH.
 

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lol @ Tony calling other people out on being true fans when he just became a fan a couple years ago... after being a Saints fan

How long are you gonna stay a Raiders fan Tony?
 

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Go play Madden, you faggot ass bitch.

Just because I don't ride Al's dick like he can do no wrong, put faith in Aaron Brooks, claim Javon Walker can win us a SB ring, blame Raiders losses/mistakes/holes in the ozone layer on Lane Kiffen, pretend like because you won the SB on Madden using "easy mode" that means we're going to win it this year, because, of course, Madden is like a crystal ball...

MY team gets a hard fought win with a lot of question marks and room for improvement yesterday, and you think suddenly you've proven anyone wrong? You're still an Aaron Brooks loving, video game fucking, half retard bitch who's laughed at on here almost as much as Deebo (you ediot), and that's only because he's not on more regularly. I don't give a fuck about your faggot ass stats on Madden, bitch; stick your controller up your ass sideways.

I'm realistic...you know, like in the REAL WORLD. You're stuck in fantasy land playing video games like there's nothing else in life, you fucking chump. You've googled a few stats from before the '04 season, and now you're the super fan who knows it all and cannot fathom that anything could be wrong in the organization.

Stick to playing with your controller, you bitch ass faggot, and maybe you and Javon can meet up with Aaron at Costco when he gets off work tonight and celebrate Javon's 5 catches, and his improved rating on Madden.


YOU BITCH.
Finished? Now go have Meta4ical pat dry your vagina! Ya squarez...
 

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Did anybody notice the difference in the play calling? We look like an NFL offense now because we took shots down the field (if Kiffin was still here we would have lost that game)... JaMarcus stepped his game up (good stats with no turnovers), McFadden got involved in the passing game (not just running between the tackles), and Javon Walker had a pretty good game (coming up with our only TD score and catching a crucial 3rd down pass).

Our defense stepped up as well... Brett Favre was pressured all game and D. Hall had a pretty decent game.
 
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Did anybody notice the difference in the play calling? We look like an NFL offense now because we took shots down the field (if Kiffin was still here we would have lost that game)... JaMarcus stepped his game up (good stats with no turnovers), McFadden got involved in the passing game (not just running between the tackles), and Javon Walker had a pretty good game (coming up with our only TD score and catching a crucial 3rd down pass).

Our defense stepped up as well... Brett Favre was pressured all game and D. Hall had a pretty decent game.

I didnt watch too much but they did look like a better team. Granted Jets really do suck, but it doesn't matter Oakland did look better. Javon had an average game not pretty good. If he doesn't have the td it is a very poor game still.