Off Topic: Kerry's Non-Stance on Everything
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Good question. The answer is a president does not loose control but gets the backing and allience of other nations to take actions on other sovereign countries and fun stuff like that. So its not just one sovereign nation vs. another sovereign nation, It is multiple nations coming to a consensus on what to do about a country that has questionable operations.
A better one: Why would you want a president who invades a sovereign nation, for no real reasons. Who has 2nd and 3rd agendas. In the mean time, killing innocent people, not to mention over 1,000 of our own american soldiers.?..
A better one: Why would you want a president who invades a sovereign nation, for no real reasons. Who has 2nd and 3rd agendas. In the mean time, killing innocent people, not to mention over 1,000 of our own american soldiers.?..
A quick moment of reproach...
Yes.... this movie is very powerful and it does contain some important facts... BUT... before some person who is a major proponent of Bush points out... ... ... It is not entirely clear of bias. Michael Moore is a very good filmmaker and comes close to genius at points, BUT when you watch this movie put more credence in the facts that can be seen... the video put before you. Some of the other facts that Moore alludes to are a bit more sketchy, like the BinLaden family thing. I dont really mean sketchy, rather that its more conspiracy theory than anything. Look at the facts, what the people say and what you SEE transpire. Thats the important parts. Come up with your own opinions.
At the same time, yes...this movie is very very good and it brings up a lot of questions about the president. Oh yeah... and turn on FOX news sometime and see how slanted to the right/conservativism they are... ANother documentary you must check out... "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" ... ... ... its funny... cause just because they say about every 5 minutes that they are "Fair and Balanced" doesnt actually mean it...just one of their ploys of emphasis...
Yes.... this movie is very powerful and it does contain some important facts... BUT... before some person who is a major proponent of Bush points out... ... ... It is not entirely clear of bias. Michael Moore is a very good filmmaker and comes close to genius at points, BUT when you watch this movie put more credence in the facts that can be seen... the video put before you. Some of the other facts that Moore alludes to are a bit more sketchy, like the BinLaden family thing. I dont really mean sketchy, rather that its more conspiracy theory than anything. Look at the facts, what the people say and what you SEE transpire. Thats the important parts. Come up with your own opinions.
At the same time, yes...this movie is very very good and it brings up a lot of questions about the president. Oh yeah... and turn on FOX news sometime and see how slanted to the right/conservativism they are... ANother documentary you must check out... "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" ... ... ... its funny... cause just because they say about every 5 minutes that they are "Fair and Balanced" doesnt actually mean it...just one of their ploys of emphasis...
Well that would be a valid point if I felt any sympathy for Iraqi people or the country at all. As far as I'm concerned I think they're all a bunch of uncivilized fucks and I'd personally be happy if we just leveled the place and put strip clubs in the joint. To be perfectly honest with you, I'd also be happy if we did the same to about half the world and just named every place we took over America 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.
That film was entertaining, but that's about it. It was very good actually, but was also 93% propaganda.
That film was entertaining, but that's about it. It was very good actually, but was also 93% propaganda.
Im going to rent that movie soon I keep hearing about it and saw the commercial for it. I hope every one chooses wisely on who they vote for and not based on personal things such as:
Vote for the person that will do much as possible for our country, community,children and our individual selfs.
Read between the lives people don't fall for the okie doke, do research on the two canidates and decide wich is best for you.
- Abortion
- Gay Maraige
- War against terror
Vote for the person that will do much as possible for our country, community,children and our individual selfs.
Read between the lives people don't fall for the okie doke, do research on the two canidates and decide wich is best for you.
Just using your list as an example of topics:
If closing Planned Parenthoods and not allowing OBGYN's to give out birth control so mine and y'alls girls can get unwanted pregnancies then have no way to get the morning after pill is A GOOD IDEA... then go ahead and vote for a Bush and a Dick
Gay marriage? lol... Whats the fuckin big deal if dudes wanna marry dudes and dykes wanna marry dykes? At least they know they wanna get married enough to fight for it DAMN. It wont make "you" gay so be fucking realistic.
Two or three countries with armies cant win a war against terrorists... this isnt fuckin "Command & Conquer: Generals" for crying out loud... but I guess I forgot Poland!!!!
whatev.
In the words of Mr. Slave - "Jesus Chrissst..."
If closing Planned Parenthoods and not allowing OBGYN's to give out birth control so mine and y'alls girls can get unwanted pregnancies then have no way to get the morning after pill is A GOOD IDEA... then go ahead and vote for a Bush and a Dick
Gay marriage? lol... Whats the fuckin big deal if dudes wanna marry dudes and dykes wanna marry dykes? At least they know they wanna get married enough to fight for it DAMN. It wont make "you" gay so be fucking realistic.
Two or three countries with armies cant win a war against terrorists... this isnt fuckin "Command & Conquer: Generals" for crying out loud... but I guess I forgot Poland!!!!
whatev.
In the words of Mr. Slave - "Jesus Chrissst..."
Clinton, I must say, wasn't a bad president, he even got Chinese eyed. But anyways, what I really wanted to say is that my slogan for this year was "Don't Vote" but I have changed my mind because if I don't vote, I know that faggot ass piece of shit aka Bush will win and I would be pissed off to the max if that happened. So, I guess Im gonna vote...Kerry all the way.
You obviously don't know a lick of politics or world events further than the past 4 months.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton
**On Iraq, Clinton had several times launched military strikes on the nation, often in response of Saddam Hussein's failure to comply with UN inspectors and another time when Saddam attempted to have President Bush Sr assassinated.
**Some of the personal failures and moral lapses of Clinton have tainted his legacy in the eyes of many Americans in spite of the good economic growth of the late 1990's. Additionally, there is controversy over his foreign policy actions; while some Americans feel that his foreign policies had resulted in an environment that permitted terrorists like Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network to strike on September 11th, others feel that his efforts at fighting terrorism were hampered by excessive partisan bickering and were not continued effectively by the succeeding administration.
From http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2637.html
** What haunted me more than anything else was that [President Clinton] refused to make a decision. Human lives were at stake – the lives of American service members and the lives of our allies who opposed Saddam at our behest and were now under attack. At a time when America’s honor and grander principles were being challenged and the world was watching our every move… the president was watching golf.
...I approached the president and said, “Sir, our aircraft are ready, bombs loaded, and waiting for your command…His reply destroyed my faith in him as commander-in-chief and convinced me that the greatest security risk to the United States was none other than…the president himself.
— Lt. Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, USAF (Ret.), author of “Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America’s National Security,” recalling his three different attempts to pull Clinton away from watching the Presidents’ Cup long enough to give the go-ahead to bomb Iraq on Sept. 13, 1996. With lives hanging in the balance, Clinton, all three times, replied that he would deal with it later.
**In fact, more terrorist attacks occurred on Clinton’s watch, both inside and outside of U.S. borders, than during any other presidential administration in U.S. history:
The 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed 6 and injured 1,000
The 1993 Mogadishu firefight that killed 18 U.S. soldiers
The 1995 Oklahoma City terrorist attack on the federal building by American extremists that killed 168, wounding several hundred others
The 1995 Saudi Arabia car bomb that killed 5 U.S. military personnel
The 1996 Khobal Towers bombing that killed 19 U.S. soldiers, wounding 515
The 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 citizens, 12 Americans and injured 5,000
The 2000 USS Cole attack in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors, wounding 39
With each terrorist attack, Clinton went before the American people and promised that “those responsible would be hunted down and punished.” However, we now know that nothing came of Clinton’s empty promises but spineless, politically driven, Wag-the-Dog diversions.
Wow... What an asshole. Read the above please.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton
**On Iraq, Clinton had several times launched military strikes on the nation, often in response of Saddam Hussein's failure to comply with UN inspectors and another time when Saddam attempted to have President Bush Sr assassinated.
**Some of the personal failures and moral lapses of Clinton have tainted his legacy in the eyes of many Americans in spite of the good economic growth of the late 1990's. Additionally, there is controversy over his foreign policy actions; while some Americans feel that his foreign policies had resulted in an environment that permitted terrorists like Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network to strike on September 11th, others feel that his efforts at fighting terrorism were hampered by excessive partisan bickering and were not continued effectively by the succeeding administration.
From http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2637.html
** What haunted me more than anything else was that [President Clinton] refused to make a decision. Human lives were at stake – the lives of American service members and the lives of our allies who opposed Saddam at our behest and were now under attack. At a time when America’s honor and grander principles were being challenged and the world was watching our every move… the president was watching golf.
...I approached the president and said, “Sir, our aircraft are ready, bombs loaded, and waiting for your command…His reply destroyed my faith in him as commander-in-chief and convinced me that the greatest security risk to the United States was none other than…the president himself.
— Lt. Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, USAF (Ret.), author of “Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America’s National Security,” recalling his three different attempts to pull Clinton away from watching the Presidents’ Cup long enough to give the go-ahead to bomb Iraq on Sept. 13, 1996. With lives hanging in the balance, Clinton, all three times, replied that he would deal with it later.
**In fact, more terrorist attacks occurred on Clinton’s watch, both inside and outside of U.S. borders, than during any other presidential administration in U.S. history:
The 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed 6 and injured 1,000
The 1993 Mogadishu firefight that killed 18 U.S. soldiers
The 1995 Oklahoma City terrorist attack on the federal building by American extremists that killed 168, wounding several hundred others
The 1995 Saudi Arabia car bomb that killed 5 U.S. military personnel
The 1996 Khobal Towers bombing that killed 19 U.S. soldiers, wounding 515
The 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 citizens, 12 Americans and injured 5,000
The 2000 USS Cole attack in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors, wounding 39
With each terrorist attack, Clinton went before the American people and promised that “those responsible would be hunted down and punished.” However, we now know that nothing came of Clinton’s empty promises but spineless, politically driven, Wag-the-Dog diversions.
Wow... What an asshole. Read the above please.
AND ONE FRIGHTFUL DAY ON THE 11TH OF SEPTEMBER, THE DEATH TOLL OF THAT STATED ABOVE WAS TRIPLED...........................................ON BUSH'S WATCH. HE ALSO PROMISED THAT THOSE RESPONSIBLE WOULD BE PUNISHED, BUT INSTEAD GOES AFTER THE THREAT MAKER AND TRIES TO MAKE THAT SEMI-SUCCESSFUL EFFORT COVER UP HIS FAILED PLANS TO GO AFTER OSAMA WHO HAS HEADED THE BIGGEST TERRORIST ATTACK ON U.S. SOIL...
