Off Topic: Kerry's Non-Stance on Everything

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Zer0.MediA said:
Changes his mind for the better? He changes his mind every day so when he finally says something you agree with you forget all the other bullshit and go "Hey, this fucker is on point". He's playin' you for a sucker. He voted for the war, and said he would do it again just months ago.

“I’ve Had One Position, One Consistent Position, That Saddam Hussein Was A Threat.” (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

Said Knowing What He Knows Now, “Would Have Voted For The Authority.” SEN. JOHN KERRY: “Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it’s the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has.” (CNN’s “Inside Politics,” 8/9/04)

Maybe we should send a troop of rabid bunnies instead of men.

What a tool.

Yes, I said changes his mind for the better. CHANGES HIS MIND FOR THE BETTER.

:eyecross: CHAIN-JEZ HIZ MINE-D 4 THA BET-R. :eyecross:



and I am not being "played for a sucker" (nice 1988 lingo, chief), you are. You believe what that oval office chump says? WHY? He has done nothing but lie to the people and use the countries money for Cheney's oil. cough*haliburton*cough.

Bush is using fear to wheel all u fishies in. And its working for the most part... Shame really.
 
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Besides, any man that believes that abortion is "a woman's right to choose" does not deserve to be the leader of the Free World. The Democratic party is so quick to call it "a woman's right", when in reality it needs to be stated plainly as baby killing. Dress it up however you like... it will always be exactly that: murder.
Um... No.

something i thought was funny... a supreme court justice that bush liked said he felt orgies would be good for society
I tend to agree.

I never have and never will vote Democrat you fucking idiot. I've made several threads in the GOM bashing Kerry. Look up my thread titled, "10 Reasons NOT to vote Kerry"
Wow you're so cool and you're a free thinker. You're obviously enlightened beyond all of our wisdom.

Yes, I said changes his mind for the better. CHANGES HIS MIND FOR THE BETTER.

CHAIN-JEZ HIZ MINE-D 4 THA BET-R.
Wow. You're clearly not the person I want to debate about this issue, you're maturity and content is frightening.

He has done nothing but lie to the people and use the countries money for Cheney's oil.
Even the wannabe hippies that originally marched down the streets chanting the ridiculous "no blood for oil" have given that bullshit up. You gain your politics from what the TV tells you and that's obvious.

Do me a favor and don't even bother replying because I won't talk to you about this issue anymore. Feel free to go and say all you want about "that's because I'm so right and you're stupid", but I don't have time for your idiocy. At least 2-0-Sixx has shit to say that I can consider, but I can talk to any dumbass on the street and hear the same bullshit I hear from you knowing full well they're just repeating catch phrases they saw on the news.
 
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I'm sorry, but Webster's Dictionary defines life as "a detectable heart beat"... within 10 days of conception, the baby's heart begins to beat. Sounds like life to me... call me crazy but if you were to abort that innocent baby, then I would call it murder and that blood would be on your head. Maybe you have no problem with this, but I do.

I am not trying to start up any shit with anybody on here, I'm just stating my opinion on how I feel. I feel very strongly about this issue, but I also know there are other issues in this election that are every bit as important.
 

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The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.

in order for it to be life, it must be viable, which in terms of a fetus, it must be capable of living outside the uterus
 
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shep said:
in order for it to be life, it must be viable, which in terms of a fetus, it must be capable of living outside the uterus

I agree that that to be or "have" a life, the child must be able to grow sufficiently enough to be capable of what you just stated. No arguement there! But don't you think that if you stop a heart from beating, whether they have been alive for 75 years or have been conceived for 2 weeks, that this in itself is wrong? I dunno man, I have a son and I couldn't imagine it... maybe that's why I am so passionate about it.
 
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I'm sorry, but Webster's Dictionary defines life as "a detectable heart beat"... within 10 days of conception, the baby's heart begins to beat. Sounds like life to me... call me crazy but if you were to abort that innocent baby, then I would call it murder and that blood would be on your head. Maybe you have no problem with this, but I do.
A tree is technically alive, but it has no heart. So when you write on paper are you a tree murderer? I don't personally live my life by Websters definitions. Therefore I'm of the opinion that something isn't "alive" untill it's born. Meaning you can't kill something that hasn't been born.

"brought forth by or as if by birth"
"having from birth specified qualities"

And lookie here... My websters dictionary has this in the definition of "life";

"5 a : the period from birth to death"

How about that.

But besides all that, you support and give your money to a person you say is a "murder" 5 times over. That's a lil hypocritical. And for the record, I don't have a son, and never gotten someone pregnant but I would prefer if about a million or two people in this world had aborted their kids instead of having 17 of them, collecting our tax dollars and pimping them out or raising them to be fuckin' gangsters and shit like that. It would make the world a better place.
 
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Zero, I guess I'm just old fashioned and believe that if you wanna go out and have fun and are stupid about sex, then you have to suck it up and take care of the child. More than anything, abortion seems to be a "scapegoat" for those who are too childish to raise a kid. And yeah, sex may be all fun and games to some, but once that shit hits the fan, you better grow up and take responsibility. If everyone had that attitude, then the world would be better off. (But I don't live in a fantasy world, so I realize this will never happen.)

I may come off as hypocritical... yeah I enjoy Tech N9ne's music and his lyrics to the fullest. "Real Killer" has never been one of my favorites, but in listening to that song, I can tell that Tech knows it's wrong... it's something that's happened and is over and done with.

Anyways, my point is that he's an artist and people love to hear about what has happened in his life. I may not agree with those abortions, but that's what he did. Tech N9ne is not running for President of the United States... he's just human and makes mistakes like the rest of us.
 

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do i think abortion is wrong? yes
do i think that the government has a right to tell a woman what to do with her body? no
 
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so if we can kill a baby when it is 4-5 months old..
..."cause we dont want it"..


.....then why cant we just do it when it is ....ol lets say....a yr old...when "we cant afford "it" anymore"...
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abortion= death..
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and all you liberal fuckers cry about the "innocent" people dying in another fuckin country..
give me a fuckin break......

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I'm sorry, but Webster's Dictionary defines life as "a detectable heart beat"...
Oh.. Ok, so I must have just made that all up.

Main Entry: [1]life
Pronunciation: 'lIf
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural lives /'lIvz/
Etymology: Middle English lif, from Old English lIf; akin to Old English libban to live —more at LIVE
Date: before 12th century
1 a : the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body b : a principle or force that is considered to underlie the distinctive quality of animate beings; compare VITALISM 1 c : an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
2 a : the sequence of physical and mental experiences that make up the existence of an individual b : one or more aspects of the process of living <sex life of the frog>
3 : BIOGRAPHY 1
4 : spiritual existence transcending physical death
5 a : the period from birth to death b : a specific phase of earthly existence <adult life> c : the period from an event until death <a judge appointed for life> d : a sentence of imprisonment for the remainder of a convict's life
6 : a way or manner of living
7 : LIVELIHOOD
8 : a vital or living being; specifically : PERSON <many lives were lost in the disaster>
9 : an animating and shaping force or principle
10 : SPIRIT, ANIMATION <there was no life in her dancing>
11 : the form or pattern of something existing in reality <painted from life>
12 : the period of duration, usefulness, or popularity of something <the expected life of flashlight batteries>
13 : the period of existence (as of a subatomic particle) — compare HALF-LIFE
14 : a property (as resilience or elasticity) of an inanimate substance or object resembling the animate quality of a living being
15 : living beings (as of a particular kind or environment) <forest life>
16 a : human activities b : animate activity and movement <stirrings of life> c : the activities of a given sphere, area, or time <the political life of the country>
17 : one providing interest and vigor <life of the party>
18 : an opportunity for continued viability <gave the patient a new life>
19 : capitalized Christian Science : GOD 1b
20 : something resembling animate life <a grant saved the project's life> [/b]

So I guess it's debateable seeing as how there is no 1 definition of life.

.....then why cant we just do it when it is ....ol lets say....a yr old...when "we cant afford "it" anymore"...
Maybe because when the child is still in the mother people don't ask how old it is. If that were the case, your one year old would only be 3 months old from birth. Plus most abortions dont happen 4-5 months after conception.
 
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Zer0.MediA said:
Oh.. Ok, so I must have just made that all up.

Main Entry: [1]life
Pronunciation: 'lIf
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural lives /'lIvz/
Etymology: Middle English lif, from Old English lIf; akin to Old English libban to live —more at LIVE
Date: before 12th century
1 a : the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional being from a dead body b : a principle or force that is considered to underlie the distinctive quality of animate beings; compare VITALISM 1 c : an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction
2 a : the sequence of physical and mental experiences that make up the existence of an individual b : one or more aspects of the process of living <sex life of the frog>
3 : BIOGRAPHY 1
4 : spiritual existence transcending physical death
5 a : the period from birth to death b : a specific phase of earthly existence <adult life> c : the period from an event until death <a judge appointed for life> d : a sentence of imprisonment for the remainder of a convict's life
6 : a way or manner of living
7 : LIVELIHOOD
8 : a vital or living being; specifically : PERSON <many lives were lost in the disaster>
9 : an animating and shaping force or principle
10 : SPIRIT, ANIMATION <there was no life in her dancing>
11 : the form or pattern of something existing in reality <painted from life>
12 : the period of duration, usefulness, or popularity of something <the expected life of flashlight batteries>
13 : the period of existence (as of a subatomic particle) — compare HALF-LIFE
14 : a property (as resilience or elasticity) of an inanimate substance or object resembling the animate quality of a living being
15 : living beings (as of a particular kind or environment) <forest life>
16 a : human activities b : animate activity and movement <stirrings of life> c : the activities of a given sphere, area, or time <the political life of the country>
17 : one providing interest and vigor <life of the party>
18 : an opportunity for continued viability <gave the patient a new life>
19 : capitalized Christian Science : GOD 1b
20 : something resembling animate life <a grant saved the project's life> [/b]

So I guess it's debateable seeing as how there is no 1 definition of life.

Maybe because when the child is still in the mother people don't ask how old it is. If that were the case, your one year old would only be 3 months old from birth. Plus most abortions dont happen 4-5 months after conception.

zero im sure you get my point..
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